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Trump should be reinstated because of the obvious massive election fraud, but I find it hard to believe that will actually happen.

I can believe he will be Speaker of the House though.

HunterTits says

jazz_music says

Your tears are breaking my heart

What tears? You're the one obsessing over Trump, not us.

Trump is living in donkey heads rent-free.

Patrick says

Trump should be reinstated because of the obvious massive election fraud, but I find it hard to believe that will actually happen.

Patrick says

I can believe he will be Speaker of the House though.

How can people not realize this contradiction?

Look, we just had a coup d'etat. The only people that will be "elected" from this point forward, are going to be people already approved by the MIC.

The sleepers have awoken. Keep attacking. No matter what. Attack 'em just to see the look on their face. Attack 'em if they can't take a joke. Attack 'em for shits and giggles.

Just keep attacking.

jazz_music says

FuckCCP89 says

You're the one obsessing over Trump, not us.

I like putting vegetables into my rectum.

Quote correctly, motherfucker!

Donald says

I just bought my tickets to the Trump re-instatement ceremony in August.

I wish that were true. Alas, each state certified their own electoral college results and sent them in and there is no Constitutional provision to undo the certifications. The best we can hope for is prosecutions of the cheaters, recalls or impeachments of the falsely elected politicians, and policies like Voter ID and sensible limits on mail-in ballots to be sure elections are fair in the future. But the Dems will fight all these measures no matter how much proof of a stolen election occurs. The Dems want to preserve the ability to steal.

Just decertify the election, even if it doesn't mean Biden goes.

Always be thinking about framing shit, just like the Left does.

"President Biden* has little political capital following Arizona and Georgia decertifying the election"

EVERYBODY knows Biden didn't win, including most of the looney left. The more it gets 'official confirmation', the weaker the CCP-Obama-Klain-HedgeFund government is.

Store in Destin Florida:

Trump will repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments with a phone call - which will remove Harris - and then declare Biden a negro.

Done.

Just in case anyone has any question about how Trump will be reinstated next month.

And where the fuck is the Kraken?

And where the fuck is Horowitz?

SumatraBosch says

Just in case anyone has any question about how Trump will be reinstated next month.

So how is that supposed to happen?

jazz_music says

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

EVERYBODY knows Biden didn't win,

Right because it gets repeated so often that it doesn’t matter that it’s not true. They are all quoting dead leader, I mean dear leader. That’s what matters. He’s going to fix them all, haha!

Come on, think about this for a minute.

* Biden never got a larger crowd than 50 people to come to campaign event.

* In one campaign event in, I think Georgia, NOBODY showed up.

* If the election results are to be believed, he's the most popular presidential candidate in history, having won the largest percentage of the eligible vote ever.

* Despite this, he won the least number of counties as a percentage in all of US history.

* They do not dare to turn on comments on The White House youtube page, and the like to dislike ratio is huge - check it out: https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse/videos - remember, most popular president in history

* The voting system was COMPLETELY overhauled at the last minute, and illegally - bypassing state legislators

* Trump was ahead in all the swing states, then they stopped counting, and when it was reopened, Biden magically got all these new votes.

* There's obstruction at every step of the way to prevent the audits (not that they matter - Biden will be "president" until 2024)

* Google, Facebook, and Twitter have had to implement blatant censorship and propaganda of anybody that questioned the election

* Our intelligence agencies HATED Trump, and spent 4 years trying to remove him from office - that's who put Biden in office

* Biden won ONE bellweather county: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-biden-s-win-wasn-t-statistically-impossible/ar-BB1bIl3f. The bellweather counties have predicted the outcome of the presidential election for decades, last time they were wrong was Nixon/Kennedy - and really, Nixon did win that election - but it wasn't a blowout like Trump was over Biden. We've had the same bellwether counties for more than 100 years.

* Antifa and BLM have magically disappeared, because they were the useful idiots to make it APPEAR there was widespread grassroots dislike of Trump - it was an astroturf campaign. None of them were arrested because they are dupes of the intelligence agencies.

jazz_music says

Anifa(cists)

And you’re already wrong. Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

jazz_music says

It matters not, because we won.

I'd hate to see what happens when you lose.

Shaman says

jazz_music says

Anifa(cists)

And you’re already wrong. Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

At least he's not starving and has a smartphone.

jazz_music says

Shaman says

Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

Your question is a simple attack

You ask too many questions

It is a legitimate question. You have never said anything that made me consider I'm wrong, and I'm often wrong.

In my opinion, you don't seem to listen to other people, or to actually debate them. For example, there is this response to me:

https://patrick.net/post/1322306&200#comment-1765132

Now if I'm wrong, I honestly want to know where the error in my thinking is. You have never done that with me. Your assertion that "Trump followers are fascists" is incorrect - I suppose some of them are, but a vanishingly small minority, and honestly I don't think you know what a fascist actually is. I'm sure there's some communists in there as well who are Trump supporters. It's just another slander that isn't even worth responding to. It's a robotic response, and when I saw the creation of the NPC meme, I laughed for 20 minutes, seriously, because it's absolutely true. There's no depth to your thinking, and I question if you really try to think.

Now, if that opinion is wrong, please feel free to demonstrate it, and I will genuinely consider it but I will need to see examples where you've actually shown somebody is incorrect without just blind assertion and blanket statements.

What is the foundation of your thinking? Do you have any? All you do is ridicule. Am I incorrect about my statements? Show me. If you can show me I'm wrong, I will certainly change my viewpoint, but appeal to mockery isn't going to convince me I'm incorrect. It might convince an audience in a debate, but this is no debate it is an attempt at discussion. I honestly want to know if I'm incorrect. Point out my errors.

Onvacation says

jazz_music says

It matters not, because we won.

I'd hate to see what happens when you lose.

You saw what happened when he lost.

We had 4 years of propaganda about Trump being a Russian agent, that our election what stolen because of "Russian Collusion" (somehow - it was never explained), and when that didn't work 9 months of Antifa and BLM burning, looting, and murdering - and nobody went to jail over it and finally, we had a stolen election.

This happened, in my opinion, because we finally had a president that refused to start a new goddamned fucking worthless war. That can't be tolerated!

jazz_music says

richwicks says

It is a legitimate question

Excellent job.

That whole screed was awesome and I’d enjoy seeing your honest pursuit of reasoned debate on important issues.

I’ll be watching.

Btw there is this:
Trump is not going to be reinstated as president in August or ever. Trump LOST, LOL

No, Trump will not be reinstated as president.

I'm simply pointing out that our intelligence agencies placed Biden into the presidency, because he's a puppet of them.

You've shown no error in my reasoning and logic. I have to draw the conclusion that you are unable to do that. I cannot change my mind if you can't show I'm wrong.

Pretty crack addict by the way..

HunterTits says

richwicks says

No, Trump will not be reinstated as president.

I'm simply pointing out that our intelligence agencies placed Biden into the presidency, because he's a puppet of them.

You've shown no error in my reasoning and logic. I have to draw the conclusion that you are unable to do that. I cannot change my mind if you can't show I'm wrong.

He just trolls. That in itself isn't the problem. It's that he has really, really crappy trolling 'skills'.

I think jazz's age is like 14 years old or something. One of my current theories.

I am well aware of what @jazz_music is likely to be.

The trick of trapping a troll, is to confront them with reasoning and logic and force them to evade it. I'm "playing stupid" a little too.

If I were to do this with a so-called "flat-earther" I'd start asking questions like "well, why do all the planets appear to be round - are they discs too?" or "well, then how to timezones work on the flat earth?" - etc. It's not that I expect a reasonable answer, or even an answer at all - but if I can force them to attempt to give an answer, they fail, and if I force them to evade giving an answer, they fail.

Trolls are weird in that they say nothing, and waste a lot of time doing it. I imagine a lot of them are actually working for PR firms - propaganda firms.

I take whatever they say at face value, just to show them to be wrong. It's Socratic method. Also, I cannot be angered or even irritated by them because I don't respect whatever their stated opinion is, and I don't even believe they are sincere in their stated opinion.

jazz_music says

HunterTits says

You can't trap a 14 year old with reasoning and logic.

Another stinking conspiracy theory, eh?

He's just stating that you act like a 14 year old. For example, you identify that as a "conspiracy theory" - what person would call an obvious insult, a "conspiracy theory", in order to simply dismiss it? Well, a 14 year old might.

HunterTits says

richwicks says

The trick of trapping a troll, is to confront them with reasoning and logic and force them to evade it. I'm "playing stupid" a little too.

You can't trap a 14 year old with reasoning and logic.

He's not 14.

Look, all he's doing is trying to antagonize people. That's all he can do - I just enjoy demonstrating it. I know it won't lead anywhere.

HunterTits says

Here’s a thought

The intelligence agencies can't be trusted.

That's who overthrew our nation in the last election. Standard operating procedure of the CIA. Our intelligence agencies, betrayed the nation.

All they have to do is get a few people below them, to fall in line and they have considerable power to do so, up to and including, murdering people who do not fall in line. Wikileaks has repeatedly exposed conspiracies, and you still don't know how they work.

jazz_music says

HunterTits says

I propose you watch the British series "Yes Minister!"

Better you listen to this speech, the Q&A and read his book
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qubr4MZZSfU

Fuck youtube!

jazz_music says

It’s not like you’d read the book.

Depends on the book.

Not interested in reading Mao's drivel for sure.

Donald says

But wasn't Trump in charge of the intelligence agencies?

In THEORY.

But in actuality, of course Trump doesn't control the intelligence agencies. The intelligence agencies control the government - entirely. That's our "Deep State".

jazz_music says

richwicks says

"conspiracy theory", in order to simply dismiss it? Well, a 14 year old might.

I might get respect if I joined you fascists and posted animated titties and such.

Why you so mad bro?

Oh - you can't possibly make me angry.

I haven't seen you once take issue with any statement I've made. You simply avoid questions and ignore reasoning. You have no interest in actually thinking or encouraging others to think.

jazz_music says

Tits, I don’t believe you.

You are nothing but disruptive

@jazz_music - it's quite clear to me you are simply trolling. Why do you do this? I'm curious as why people would bother?

This forum is one of the very few forums that has people who are actually thinking and exchanging ideas rather than just arguing endlessly. Why pollute it by just trying to enrage people? In my considered opinion that's all you're attempting to do.

If you think I actually am incorrect in a belief or a viewpoint, maybe I am. Explain it to me and I will certainly reconsider my position.

I'd do this for you, however you don't give me anything to work with. When I attempt to talk with you, you don't engage. You don't dispute what I state, you don't point out what you think are errors in my thinking, you don't question what I consider facts. You just move on to another long ago dismissed talking point. You strongly remind me of the people who were marched out on the Internet back in the early 2000's to support that stupid fucking war that George W. Bush lied us into. You are extremely similar to them.

And @HunterTits - all he's doing is trying to enrage you. The only person that can make you angry, is yourself. Do you respect jazz_music's (supposed) opinions or find his reasoning to be superior to your own? If not, why do you care about what he says about you? The only thing he is doing is trying to create an argument, and he actively avoids conversation.

Also don't forget, you can upvote your own post, as I just did. That's what jazz_music does. He's really his own only fan.. :P

HunterTits says

richwicks says

And @HunterTits - all he's doing is trying to enrage you

I am not enraged. I am working to expose him for what he is.

I doubt anybody here doesn't know what @jazz_music is. Have more faith in people's awareness here. Most people just ignore him.

By they way, we both have the same number of people ignoring us - 4, I bet it's same people. :) I tend to take trolls and dishonest arguers to task, until I exhaust them.

HunterTits says

richwicks says

By they way, we both have the same number of people ignoring us - 4, I bet it's same people. :) I tend to take trolls and dishonest arguers to task, until I exhaust them.

I bet they are null accounts. I have a number of null accounts on my ignore list and hence can not delete them. Bet it works the same way with 'people' who ignore others.

I don't place anybody on ignore on principle. Even if I think they are dishonest or outright lying, I want to know what BS they are pushing.

I have read Mine Kampf, not because I agreed with Hitler, I wanted to understand his thinking. Propaganda by Edward Bernays is a good book, and I hate that son of a bitch. Still he explains pretty well how people are influenced.