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Ceffer says

I'm sure there are still people around here ready, willing and able to brawl. Go for it.

I'm pointing out mistakes you make.

But if you wish to keep on making them, go ahead.

I study propaganda as a hobby. A common tactic is "poisoning the well". This is when false information is introduced in order to distract from a hidden truth. For example, if I say "9/11 was probably done by the government and here's why I think that" you might listen, but you will stop listening and discount even the idea that 9/11 may have been an inside job when I claim extra-terrestrials were part of the plot. The reason to make incorrect claims is to discredit correct claims.

I am careful to vet what is claimed. I've shown you why I think Benjamin Fulford is disinformation by telling you (even with links) to see what his much older claims were. You don't seem to care if you repeat false information is my conclusion. Fulford is DEFINITELY not interested in being reliable or truthful. He doesn't correct himself, he doesn't address past errors, he just feeds his audience with what they want to hear.

https://benjaminfulford.net/page/219/

Here's a small excerpt from December 9, 2009.

"The ongoing global financial war is reaching its final stages. Multiple reliable sources in three continents are all now reporting that a major breakthrough in the financial logjam is imminent. We can confirm from our own sources (including MI6 and Japanese military intelligence) that a large delegation descended on Washington last week and read the riot act to the Washington D.C. establishment. They have been informed the Federal Reserve Board must be shut down immediately and the new financial system must be implemented or else the United States would be totally cut off from the world."

Was that true?

I've gone through all the stages of being truly red pilled, I just did it before you did. No predictions are ever correct, people with "secret sources" are ALWAYS lying to you, there's no good guys in the government, there will be no reform. Revolution is the only answer. Doesn't matter who you vote for, doesn't matter what you say to a politician, they simply do not represent you or the public. The intelligence agencies are entirely corrupt, the DOJ is as well, and it has been this way for DECADES, and the time to stop it is long past.

Do you remember that "September 24th was going to be a day to remember?" - some German politician SUPPOSEDLY said that? Was it true? I read and listen to the same type of stuff you do, but I also appreciate what is bullshit and what isn't.

Ceffer says

Yeah, that's all fine and good, but what has Putin done for me lately?
https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/75306

PUTIN IS GOD!

Tenpoundbass says

Should say "Whiteskins."

Important Warning from POTUS regarding Hurricane.

WTF?

"Breaking:
All of Cuba without power after hurricane Ian.
Total blackout." Only thing the satellite sees is lit cuban cigars.

That above graphic may not have the meaning you think it does. Replacing public institutions for non-Constitutional government duties is not a bad thing. That graphic is a pro-Communist message aimed at degrading Capitalism. The flaw in the logic is that the bad stuff mentioned requires a powerful but bribable government.

I hope that guy runs for office. I would vote for him.

About that pension money you were counting on, a spot of bother:

HeadSet says

That above graphic may not have the meaning you think it does. Replacing public institutions for non-Constitutional government duties is not a bad thing. That graphic is a pro-Communist message aimed at degrading Capitalism. The flaw in the logic is that the bad stuff mentioned requires a powerful but bribable government.

There is no capitalism, there is cronyism. There is no democracy. Capitalism and democracy are theoretical concepts. Government is bribable, bribes are the foundation of government and politicians.

Ceffer says

We have made unaccountable politicians in-charge. Their contracts are too long (5 years). They should be made at will employees.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

The question is: if the guy has been so wrong so many times in such a short span, how the fuck he still has his job?

Eric Holder says

The question is: if the guy was so wrong so many times in such a short span, how the fuck he still has his job?

To be fair - in normal times (even with a Democrat President and Congress) they wouldn't be so retarded to reduce domestic energy production while printing billions to forgive student loans on top of all the COVID handout B.S.

Higher interest rates alone didn't get inflation under control in the early 80's, Reagan also unleashed major oil production in Alaska and the Gulf bringing energy costs down.

socal2 says

Eric Holder says

The question is: if the guy was so wrong so many times in such a short span, how the fuck he still has his job?

To be fair - in normal times (even with a Democrat President and Congress) they wouldn't be so retarded to reduce domestic energy production while printing billions to forgive student loans on top of all the COVID handout B.S.

Higher interest rates alone didn't get inflation under control in the early 80's, Reagan also unleashed major oil production in Alaska and the Gulf bringing energy costs down.

But if you understand that and you are not a FR banker (are you?), how the fuck a FR banker, who are supposed to know that shit better didn't understand that? And his comments clearly show he didn't.

I interviewed at the Federal Reserve on Market Street in SF in 2007 or so, just to see what it was like inside the building. I was working at Wells Fargo as a contractor, and complained to my boss that Wells had to be the slowest, most inefficient organization on earth. He laughed at me and pointed to the building next door: PG&E. He had worked there for years and promised that their monopoly on gas and electricity made them even less responsive and efficient, because they didn't need to be.

But next door to PG&E was the Fed, with a monopoly on money. Now that's a monopoly! They answer to no one and don't ever have to do anything right. They all keep their jobs no matter what. So I got an interview, and it was like entering a tomb. While people might have 10 year plaques on their desk at Wells, they had 20 or even 40 year plaques at the Fed. People go in, but they don't come out.

I've read that the highest levels of the Fed is full of PhDs who literally never worked anywhere else. They know each other from the most elite academic institutions, where the consensus is 100% that their "expertise" is infinitely far above the little people.

They aren't 'wrong' they are lying according to a script coming from Switzerland, Brussels and City of London. The peons are beguiled that they just don't understand complicated international economics, so there is infinite room for deception and obfuscation (GreenspanSpeak).

Back to the hierarchy of lies: 1. black lie, intended to misdirect you to your harm, or even death, ultimate Satanic inversions 2. Gray lie, 'diplomacy' 'bullshit' 'puffery', designed for an advantage but indifferent to whether the lie cause actual harm to others 3. White lie: deception lubricant, not designed to hurt but to perhaps prevent volatile emotions from taking over, promote neutrality subject to negotiation.

Of course, there are lies along the spectrum and mixtures of black, gray and white lies, too, depending. Plain bullshit disguised as elaborate, unprovable detail and provenance from the perspective of the lying target can also simply be that a price paid for the exhaustion of credibility and ethics is worth it to the bullshitter. Most apparatchiks are bullshitters and conduits of black lies from above their heads. Academic credentials are generalissimo medals and ribbons hung from the uniforms of those who have never actually seen battles.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Q1 '23 - "Ok you may starve to death, but at least you won't go to Hell"
Q2 '23 - "Ok, you went to Hell, but here's why that's a 'good thing"

Modern Italian Political History

richwicks says

I am careful to vet what is claimed. I've shown you why I think Benjamin Fulford is disinformation

I have already told you that 'Benjamin Fulford' thread on Telegram has nothing to do with Benjamin Fulford, it is a sort of tribute thread by somebody else who sometimes rebroadcasts from Fulford as well. It is mostly a reflection site with many different contributors. If something is from Fulford himself, I will post it as such.

Your relentless desire to hector over trivial, researched exceptions to support the limitations of your world view or to negate the world views of others by throwing out the babies with the bathwater is fine as long as you restrict your comments to 'my opinion' rather than editorializing and speculating on the motives, intentions and character of other Patnetters. I am sure that Patrick is capable of deciding whether somebody here is off the reservation and needs to go.

Globalist Cabal planning freezing and starvation for Europe. All of the alternative technology that's fit fail:

Ceffer says

Your relentless desire to hector over trivial, researched exceptions to support the limitations of your world view or to negate the world views of others by throwing out the babies with the bathwater

I'm saying don't put turds in the bathwater.

I understand that people make errors or trust the wrong people, I'm certainly make errors, and I have trusted the wrong people before (Matthew Simmons for example), but since there are so many people today who go through great effort to curate and remove the turds, there's no reason to listen to people who don't.

We are slowly (incredibly slowly) getting to the point where people have enough sources and enough ACTUAL fact checkers to finally figure out what the hell is actually going on and how the system ACTUALLY works. The last 2 years has been a real red pill for many.

I hear that the votes for accession were all done at light saber point.