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marcus says

Yes, that was when, in 1967 ?

It must be cool having the psychic powers that richwicks has to see cause and effect between a deal Isreal made with a US company for an oil lease, to an airstrike that the US did months later in Syria. You know, becasue both happened the same year and stuff.

"IT's so obvious ! How are you mother fuckers so stupid ?"

Is it possible for someone to be both gullible and a know it all ? Yes, indeed. Just read this forum if you have any doubts.

By the way, I have no doubts that both US and Russian energy interests as well as Iran's geopolitical interests are all related to what's been happening in Syria. But I think it's absurd to boil the whole thing down to one oil lease. Wtf ?

I have no clue what you're trying to say here. I'm refuting the idea that Israeli occupation of the Golan, which happened a half century ago when no oil was suspected there has something to do with Oil. The Sinai has Oil but Israel gave the entire thing back for a real Peace Treaty signed by Sadat. The Islamists Obama courted in the Arab Spring then assassinated Sadat for signing a Peace Treaty with Israel.

richwicks says

The supposed Ghouta chemical attacks happened in August. This was a false flag to give the Obama administration an excuse to attack Syria

Prove it. Or is "Genie Energy signed a deal with Israel in early 2013 to mine the oil of the Golan Heights" (the part that Israel already occupied at the time) your proof? An example of 2 and 2 that we stupid mother fuckers (per you) can't put together?

mostly_reader says

The supposed Ghouta chemical attacks happened in August. This was a false flag to give the Obama administration an excuse to attack Syria

That was another red line that was crossed. All Obama did was launch ineffectual attacks prefaced by abundant warnings. We let ISIS know we were bombing their convoys 24 hours in advance...

This is because Turkey, Qatar, the Obama Admin, etc. were in cahoots. Obama was actively distancing itself from Israel and Saudi Arabia under advice of Brennan and the rest of his pro-Iran advisors like Rhodes and that Admiral who was on Face the Leftists earlier today, while embracing Islamists everywhere. Including alleged "Freedom Fighters" composed of exile funded Islamist mercenaries.

Obama not only half-assed it, but discounted ISIS, calling it the "JV Team" - just before they conquered much of Syria and Iraq.

marcus says

It must be cool having the psychic powers that richwicks has to see cause and effect between a deal Isreal made with a US company for an oil lease, to an airstrike that the US did months later in Syria. You know, becasue both happened the same year and stuff.

FFS - who is on the "strategic board of directors" of Genie Energy? Do you know who the people are? Jesus, i have to spoon feed you apparently and I already did that.

It drives me crazy how brainwashed Americans are.

This is typical stupid American: "Duh, Assad is a dictator who used chemical weapons against his own people! Duh, we need to stop the mean man!! DUH". Well, he's an ophthalmologist by training, got stuck with the job because his brother died in a car accident, and he was elected. Wesley Clarke told the entire nation the plan:

www.youtube.com/embed/S30wn8i4410

You think Assad is so stupid, that he would use the ONE weapon that Obama warned him if he used, would result in a full on US invasion - which turned out just to be bombing? Why would he do this? You think he's that stupid? You think he doesn't realize he has a military and airforce under him?

We're there to steal oil, and it's a bonus that Syria has Russia's ONLY military base in all of the Middle East. Also, Russia is competing against the United States to bring natural gas to Europe - which is why the US overthrew Ukraine (in part) - that had the Nordstream II going through it. Also, Erdogan faced coup when he apologized to Putin for the murder of a Russian pilot, and the Turkish stream pipeline was brought back on - a US coup, this is why Turkey has become "fuck you" to the United States.

The United States government doesn't give a FUCK about human rights. Look at Libya.

Doesn't take a genius to know what is going on. It's easy to know. The US government is a mafia, and it's easy to see it. Want to know why Trump is so feared, and why they have spent 2 1/2 years trying to remove him over the flimsiest of lies? Because they're all criminals and they aren't merely criminals that should go to jail, they should be hung.

By the way, I have no doubts that both US and Russian energy interests as well as Iran's geopolitical interests are all related to what's been happening in Syria. But I think it's absurd to boil the whole thing down to one oil lease. Wtf ?

It isn't just that the Israel is an expansionist state, Russia is trying to bring natural gas into Europe, the petro-dollar is dead and what you are seeing is your own government loot anything it can.

NoCoupForYou says

That was another red line that was crossed. All Obama did was launch ineffectual attacks prefaced by abundant warnings. We let ISIS know we were bombing their convoys 24 hours in advance...

Yeah, I remember that. It's quite outstanding how much support and political capital Obama had when he started and how poorly he applied it. He could've had majority follow his most drastic decision.

mostly_reader says

richwicks says

The supposed Ghouta chemical attacks happened in August. This was a false flag to give the Obama administration an excuse to attack Syria

Prove it. Or is "Genie Energy signed a deal with Israel in early 2013 to mine the oil of the Golan Heights" (the part that Israel already occupied at the time) your proof? An example of 2 and 2 that we stupid mother fuckers (per you) can't put together?

You're not a moron I'm certain, but you're gullible. Obama announced BEFORE the Ghouta chemical attacks, that if chemical weapons would be used, it's a direct invitation to war with the United States.

So, how the Ghouta chemical attacks help Assad? Tell me, what was his motivation to use them?

Let's say he's just bloodthirsty and wants to kill people - why not use his military and airforce? Why chemical weapons, to kill civilians? Why? How does this help him in any imaginable way?

And you're like, how can you be so cynical? This is what passes for proof to an American today:

www.youtube.com/embed/fBgViIGLo-w

If the US had actual proof, you think this would be presented to the public? They don't even care if you believe them or not. What I find absolutely bizarre, is you believe them. They lie to you constantly. Where's that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? Oh, conveniently it was moved to Syria...

Do you remember years ago when Trump was running and he asked "what the hell is wrong with working with Russia to bomb the hell out of ISIS"? Remember that. Trump, and whoever is backing him, knows as well as I do what is really going on. At the end of this we're going to have to have a peace and reconciliation panel.

Do you know why Trump calls it fake news? It's because it is, all of it.

>richwick

You do understand that Genie Energy and their operations in Golans weren't affected by the war, right?

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of Genie Energy. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof. Unless you already live in this alternative universe where you are smart, everyone else is gullible, government is a mob because it is, and that annoying medical personnel is the only thing that stands between you and world domination.

mostly_reader says

>richwick

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of the corporation. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof.

I'm asking you, why would Assad use chemical weapons? And you have no answer because he wouldn't. Even to you this is obvious.

Your government has a history of lying. Weapons of mass destruction was one, another was "Qaddafi is about to cause a humanitarian crisis" - remember that one? Well it's in civil war now, and has slavery markets - don't we "have to stop the humanitarian crisis"? Ukraine didn't have a revolution they had a coup started by the United States. All of Ukraine knows this. Remember when Russia supposedly invaded Georgia?

Engh, even when the tell you what they are going to do years in advance. It's remarkable.

https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n7

I think it's pointless. People are too ignorant. That really is the problem. You substitute trust to cover up for ignorance. Edward Bernays knew people would do this. He even talked about it in his book Propaganda.

Ever seen the psychology experiment where everybody on the elevator faces the back of the elevator to see if an unsuspecting passenger will conform? You'd conform, and I wouldn't. You know your government lies, you know there are direct interests of previous government officials in seizing the Golan Heights, you know Assad would have nothing to gain by using chemical weapons against civilians - but you don't have enough courage in your own intelligence to make use of it.

richwicks says

mostly_reader says

>richwick

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of the corporation. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof.

I'm asking you, why would Assad use chemical weapons?

I'm mostly_reader, not a mind_reader, so spare me this "why did he do this" thing. I'm asking you, yet again, why would you invest in paragraphs and paragraphs on Genie Energy and their leadership, and Golan Heights - one place in Syria that wasn't affected by the war. This has all signs of red herring (BOO! they have evil government at the top!) It also puts everything else that you post into a context.

mostly_reader says

I'm mostly_reader, not a mind_reader, so spare me this "why did he do this" thing.

Assad had no motivation to use chemical weapons but you continue to believe the official story from a government that you know lied you into a war in Iraq. This is apparently reasonable thinking and logic to you.

There's nothing I can learn from you and it's pointless to continue talking with you because of that.

> richwicks
I refuse to have "why do you think he did this" conversation because I'm not a mind reader.

You, on the other hand, refuse to explain your own posts when challenged. This is noted.

richwicks says

It isn't just that the Israel is an expansionist state,

Completely wrong. Explain how the Sinai ended up back in Egyptian hands, an area larger than pre 1967 Israel by itself, in return for a peace treaty.

Sadat was assassinated over it because those who opposed the "Expansionist State" want to destroy it from the face of the Earth.

richwicks says

Remember when Russia supposedly invaded Georgia?

Uh, Russia pretty much invaded Georgia. In response to Georgia's offensive again separatists, but they did indeed invade. Not even the Russians deny this.

Obama consulted with Islamic law experts to find a “respectful” way to bury Osama Bin Laden.

Trump called Baghdadi a sick dog who died like a coward.

That’s the difference between a traitor who protects terrorists & a President who protects the people.

See the difference?

Boom! This will be my new talking point.

LOL. The TDS is neverending.