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georgeliberte says

Yes, because to think for yourself is racist.

Yeah theres a better chance those kneeling are racists, or at least indoctrinated w racist #whitesilenceisviolence idiocy.

marcus says

there aren't enough people in the mainstream speaking up against the extreme view, either out of white guilt, or simply out of fear of being labelled racist.

Thank you @marcus

We agree on that.

We need a moderate middle, but they get shouted down and banned by the left. Never by the right. This is an objective fact.

marcus says

Most people even if they understand that the killings of unarmed civilians by police isn't as much about about race as some think, still don't have a problem taking a knee in protest of it (showing solidarity - even if in their mind it's more about police incompetence than it's about race), in the wake of the Floyd murder.

Agreed there are bad cops.

It seems as though taking a knee is a bit disrespectful of Floyd as he was killed be a cop taking a knee on his neck. Oh wait, maybe taking a knee is symbolic of people wanting the police to suppress thugs.

Floyd was not innocent. He was a thug. He did not deserve to die for counterfeiting and if he did not take drugs and fight the police he might still be here today.

Onvacation says

Floyd was not innocent. He was a thug. He did not deserve to die for counterfeiting and if he did not take drugs and fight the police he might still be here today.

Long and short of it.

marcus says

What about issues such as abortion or immigration ?

Moderate voices regularly get shouted down (more or less) by the right.

Where? When?

What is the middle ground discussion on Abortion? The Right tried to put some limited restrictions on 3rd trimester terminations so our abortion laws are more in line with "civilized" Europe (instead of being in line with brutal China), but even that was shot down by the abortion extremists on the Left.

Right now, America is only 2nd to China in our barbaric abortion on demand policies.

What is the middle ground on immigration? Near as I can tell, most prominent Democrats are running on total open borders and giving illegals healthcare and voting rights.

Apparently you don't know what maybe means. Whether it's a 50% chance or a 10% chance the word "maybe" is totally appropriate.

It is not appropriate at all. For example: Someones announces over the intercom "Maybe Marcus a a rapist." Such slander is not excused just because the term "maybe" was used.

marcus says

Marcus: This is already refuted by the Intel Agencies as false. So false Trump wasn't briefed on it.

It's yet another NYT anonymous "Bombshell" they turned out to be false, again, unconditionally refuted within 24 hours.

marcus says

We'll see. Maybe they wanted to wait until after the election to deal with it ?

www.youtube.com/embed/iTuvkebxins

marcus says

Again confirming my point, that is that to you it's near impossible or at least highly unlikely that she didn't join in becasue of racism.

We agree. I believe that it is highly unlikely that "racism" is why she choose to honor the flag and not go along with the fad of kneeling.

marcus says

Patrick says

Never by the right. This is an objective fact.

What about issues such as abortion or immigration ?

@marcus I'm pretty sure it's never.

I have never heard of any speaker being shouted down and not allowed to speak by a conservative audience.

I have heard of seemingly hundreds of cases of the left shouting down conservatives, banning them, and even violently assaulting them.

jazz_music says

shouting them down calling them lefties.

Yes. And this is generally the absolute worst case scenario 99.9% of time. I guess having a business burned down or bricks thrown at you is better.

marcus says

Do you need me to produce videos ?

Please do. Id enjoy seeing what you think is equivalent to antifa's Berkeley incidents, or big social's digital book burning.

marcus says

Do you need me to produce videos ? "THERE WOULD BE DEATH PANELS !!!!!!! DON:T YOU DARE FUCKING TOUCH MY MEDICARE." They weren't allowed to speak in the slightest.

B.S.

I don't recall any speakers getting shouted off the stage or needing police security like we routinely see with Conservative speakers. I've seen City Council and School Board meetings that were more hostile than Grandma and Grandpa from the Tea-party protesting against Obamacare.

The Tea-party was a model in terms of PEACEFUL political engagement. Heck, the Tea-party would even clean up after their rallies not leaving DC covered in trash and shit like we see with every other protest movement.

marcus says

Do you need me to produce videos ? "THERE WOULD BE DEATH PANELS !!!!!!! DON:T YOU DARE FUCKING TOUCH MY MEDICARE." They weren't allowed to speak in the slightest.

marcus says

Lol, does your meme really have "willing to burn the country to the ground"?

Do you have any intellectual integrity? Wow, head meet sand

marcus says

The Republicans aren't out burning the country to the ground.

Jesus, the Democrats engage in projection, constantly - unendingly. Just the complete lack of self awareness and complete hypocrisy - it is dumbfounding.

The Democrats at this very moment are engaging in choosing a vice president that MUST be a "woman of color", competence has nothing to do with the choice, the leadership of both parties resists ending ANY war, they brought back slavery to Libya, they spent 3 years trying to impeach a man they didn't like merely because he wasn't an establishment whore. The intelligence agencies, department of justice, and democratic establishment fabricated evidence, repeatedly lied to the FISA courts, lied to the news media for 3 fucking years, and when that didn't work, started rioting and looting across several cities, are calling for the abolition of the police and are destroying historical monuments.

And you think the Republicans have the problem? How is it even possible to have this level of cognitive dissonance?

Meanwhile, a bunch of you call yourself "the Resistance" - you're the establishment. You've been the establishment for 28 horrible years. You are anything but the resistance. All you are is a bunch of Neocon/Neolibs - which is just a fancy smancy word for an outright fascist.

marcus says

Just becasue?

DILLIGAF says

Talk about liberal psychological projection.