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Tenpoundbass says

I believe Earth will trot along unscathed if a Manhattan sized chuck of space rock slammed into Earth

NOPE, just consider the energy involved in such a collision.

Bad enough when we have a massive volcanic eruption, but something the size of Manhattan striking the Earth - IF humanity survived, modernity wouldn't.

richwicks says

NOPE, just consider the energy involved in such a collision.

Consider the energy lost long before it even hits our planet. Even before it enters our atmosphere. the sun and what ever large planets is passes by before it gets to us, will have slowed it down. If impacts were as much of an upheaval as they claim, then the moon would only have one or two craters, the rest would have been covered up and buried by the debris from last two impacts.
I think a large object like that would enter right through Earth's atmosphere with only the outer leading edge having any molten rock from any friction. It would still be a deep frozen chunk of rock. I don't think It would create the huge fireball that Discovery channel special effects would have us believe. Could be just a chunk of basalt rock, breaks apart on impact scatters around for a hundreds of miles. Big huge boulders sticking up out of a field. Leaving us wondering how did a huge bolder like that get out in the middle of a field hundreds of miles from any rock outcrops or mountains. Oh of course Old Man Winter did it, the ice age pushed every rock we don't know how it got there, to where it is today.

I think space gives Earth much more than we realize. We're still under construction, Water and building materials are always falling from the sky. Sometimes by the bucket load, sometimes the whole damn ship.

I've been to many rock quarries and I have seen large chunks of rock fall from high up and land on other rocks below. Never have I seen a fire ball, like Discovery would have us believe.
Smash, Boom and dust is all you get. Along with what ever broke away and got tossed into the air.
Since earth is round and not flat, I don't believe that would make an Earth incumbering dust cloud that would block out the sun and case another ice age. I just don't see it.
The damage and debris field would be on the radial face of the sphere. And there's thousands of other radial faces on our planet. Not without going in orbit and reentering on another plane.

Ceffer says

I disliked that, that's a Communist trope. Note the commie fist!

Tenpoundbass says

Ceffer says

I disliked that, that's a Communist trope. Note the commie fist!

he isn’t wrong though. killing profitable = more killing… plenty of people there to take advantage of others, or to sell them what will kill em.

Tenpoundbass says

Consider the energy lost long before it even hits our planet. Even before it enters our atmosphere. the sun and what ever large planets is passes by before it gets to us, will have slowed it down. If impacts were as much of an upheaval as they claim, then the moon would only have one or two craters, the rest would have been covered up and buried by the debris from last two impacts.

The thing is, we can tell by the other planets that large impacts are pretty rare, but they do happen. Mars is all fucked up because of a likely impact, but it's ancient - this is thought to have cast out Mars' atmosphere into space, and then its water all boiled off. It strongly appears that something hit Earth 65 million years ago and it ALSO f'ed up our atmosphere.

An impact the of something as big as Manhatten probably is unprecedented in our planet's history, and I really don't know if there's been any bodies identified that are that big.

Tenpoundbass says

I've been to many rock quarries and I have seen large chunks of rock fall from high up and land on other rocks below. Never have I seen a fire ball, like Discovery would have us believe.

Every time you see a falling star, you're seeing something falling into the atmosphere that is travelling beyond the speed of sound. A rock STARTING in the atmosphere won't get beyond the speed of sound.

If you move something at the speed of sound, air causes friction, it doesn't cool off the object, and BEHIND the object is a near total vacuum. That's what makes the sonic boom of an airplane, that's the air collapsing behind the plane.

Coming to a country near you soon!

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

he isn’t wrong though. killing profitable = more killing… plenty of people there to take advantage of others, or to sell them what will kill em.

That has less to do with profits and more to do with bad policy. Killing happens under any system, that gets hijacked by egomaniacal maniacs.

Ceffer says

Disinformation lesson. DARPA funded flat earth movement is counter-intelligence of this sort:

So is the QAnon patriot truther movement a counter intelligence psy-op?

It’s followers believe many stories on the back channels and, like a cult or religion, believe in the second coming of his Orangeness, martial law, secret tribunals, deep underground military bases, Hollywood pedo Satanic cults, etc.
Some of what they post is curious, like the many masks of Biden but almost all of it is non-verifiable information and therefore non-actionable.
And why is Trump still pushing vaccines? Isn’t that at odds with the QAnon counter narrative?
Ahh! they claim. We are in a war and it will take time. Yet nothing happens.
Is it a false misdirection psy-op?

Whatever the truth, if they are real, I feel they have left it way too long now for me to ever consider them effective.

richwicks says

The thing is, we can tell by the other planets that large impacts are pretty rare, but they do happen. Mars is all fucked up because of a likely impact, but it's ancient - this is thought to have cast out Mars' atmosphere into space, and then its water all boiled off. It strongly appears that something hit Earth 65 million years ago and it ALSO f'ed up our atmosphere.

As our planet travels through our Galaxy, and we enter the bad neighborhood of rogue bodies, and our orbital plane intersects the orbital planes of other stars. That's where things get messy and dicey. As our planets are tugged out of orbit, and collide with other bodies, or travel through their asteroid belt, that's when our Galaxy gets a face lift and a make over. That's how new moons are added or subtracted to our larger planets, that when the Earth is moved closer or further away from the sun to either create Ice Earth or Fireball Earth. Mars and Earth could have swapped places during one of these events. Our moon likely came from one of these events, and not some random rock from the Asteroid belt or the Kuyper belt crashing into us, that makes no sense at all.
Pluto might be a remnant from another Solar System, left behind when our paths intersected, or a moon pulled away from one of our planets. Perhaps Mars once had a moon.

I love having these discussions with Patnetters, they scoff and act like I'm nuts. But almost every time, a paper gets published a week or two or months later stating my exact theories.

Truth is none of what I'm saying can be taken away as exactly what happened, and can be the exact truth. But 90% of what Science claims about the Universe and Cosmos are no more grounded in fact and proof, than what I'm saying. We humans have been looking up at the starts wondering how in the hell did all of that shit get up there, and over the thousands of years. Some how we went with just one of those theories. Such is our academic system and science, it has been hijacked by feels a vote on who likes the guy with the biggest grant the most.

I'm just amazed that up until I started talking about the Galaxy being like a Hurricane with weak side and violent side, that our solar system rides through in millions of years cycles. How none of that factors onto the shaping of our planet, solar system, and galaxy. Before when they talked about violent bombardments, they described events coming from our Solar systems debris field. Now in recent past few years they are starting to talk about it. I think thanks to me.
You're welcome!

It amazes me that Discovery Channel Scientist believe that every major event on earth is caused by Sun Solar cycles. I guess because fear sells, you got an unpredictable star right there that any minute could go postal on the solar system and wipe out most species on Earth. It sounds more urgent, than suggesting that we have to wait 10 or 100 million years for our next upheaval.

richwicks says

Every time you see a falling star, you're seeing something falling into the atmosphere that is travelling beyond the speed of sound. A rock STARTING in the atmosphere won't get beyond the speed of sound.

Glad you mentioned that. Shooting stars zip by 100s times faster than a meteor locked into our orbit headed our way. gravitational pull degrades the inertia of those traveling rocks.

Lead is soft, very soft, and travels three times faster than the speed of sound. Why don't they create a nuclear explosion every time they hit a solid object at full force. They deform but for the most part if you can find the slug, they are intact.
Space shuttle can enter earths orbit because of a 3 inch thick insulation plate. The Earth's atmosphere takes less than 15 second to enter. That's simply not enough time to turn a huge body molten before impact. Smaller meteors yes, because there's not as much mass to super heat and turn to a ball of magma. And even then there's plenty of photos out there of people having meteors fall through their roofs, that are smaller than a grape fruit. A picture taken just seconds later show it's not glowing super hot. These events never cause a house fire. When has a house ever burned down because it got struck by a meteor?

I think Discovery Channel has put to much bullshit fear hype into the physics. And models are based on a few hand picked cherry picked parameters. I've seen guys on Youtube doing a model simulation of various size objects slamming into Earth. They never start out with an event, direction or course and factor in all of the tugs and pushes it might have had during that journey, or they might have found it would be impossible to slam objects into Earth at the speeds
they try. Anton once showed what it would be like to slam a grain of sand into Earth at the speed of light. Shit like that, starts out as a mental exercise out of curiosity, but gets adopted as science, and nobody questions it.

Ceffer says

Funded by China, huh? That explains his waffling and foot-dragging when it comes to providing types and quantities of weapons necessary to kicking Chyna's unlimited partner - the CCCP - back into its legal borders...

Tenpoundbass says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

he isn’t wrong though. killing profitable = more killing… plenty of people there to take advantage of others, or to sell them what will kill em.

That has less to do with profits and more to do with bad policy. Killing happens under any system, that gets hijacked by egomaniacal maniacs.

i just think all policy is driven by selfish motivation. if murder is orofit, theyll scale business to kill more. just like planned parenthood, etc…

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

orofit

@FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden Do you mean profitable?

Always worth repeating to those who still believe in the narrative.

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Patrick says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

orofit

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden Do you mean profitable?

yes, i turned off autocorrect, but now i miss letters with my fingers occasionally. hate these tiny keyboards.