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Joe Biden Is Hillary Clinton 2.0 — Democrats Would Be Mad to Nominate Him.


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2019 Mar 23, 4:42am   21,026 views  456 comments

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Have the Democrats gone mad? Are they really planning on putting up the same type of candidate against Donald Trump in 2020 that they put up against him in 2016? Is the party bent on nominating Hillary 2.0?

How else to describe Joe Biden, the former vice president and ex-senator from Delaware, who is leading in the polls and has hinted that he’d reveal whether he’s running for president in “a few weeks” and might select a running mate early in the process?

Forget, for a moment, his “blue-collar-uncle-at-the-end-of-the-bar persona.” Ignore also his recent, and ridiculous, claim to have the “most progressive record of anybody” running for president. Consider, instead, the sheer number of similarities he seems to have with the vanquished Democratic presidential candidate of 2016.

More on each of the topics below in full article...

Iraq War supporter? Check.

Friend of Wall Street? Check.

Champion of mass incarceration? Check. Millions of black voters refused to turn out for Clinton in 2016. Why wouldn’t they do the same in response to a Biden candidacy in 2020?

Establishment-friendly? Check.

Gaffe-prone? Check.

Loser? Check.

Yet now, it seems, he and his supporters believe this serial loser is the only Democratic candidate able to win back white-working class voters from Trump and triumph in the 2020 presidential election?

Where is the actual evidence for this ludicrous claim? For a start, a recent poll found that “every potential Democratic candidate in the 2020 presidential election — announced and unannounced — would beat President Trump in a head-to-head contest.” (As Biden himself conceded to The Intercept in December, “I think anybody can beat him.”)

The bigger issue, however, is that there is no question for the Democrats in 2020 to which Biden is the answer. Have they really learned no lessons from three years ago?

Full Article: https://theintercept.com/2019/03/21/joe-biden-2020-hillary-clinton/

#2020Elections #Biden #Democrats

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221   marcus   2020 Mar 4, 7:06am  

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The desperation is kicking in already.

BDS so soon ?
222   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 4, 8:22am  

Biden confused his wife with his sister and vice-versa at victory party. Vid at the link.


Uh...what? Joe Biden confused his wife for his sister while giving his victory speech on stage...

I'm embarrassed for the people who Judy voted for him... 🤦‍♀️ #WalkAwayFromDemocrats #VoteRedToSaveAmerica2020pic.twitter.com/m1qPDFKpcO— Catt (@CattHarmony) March 4, 2020


223   Bd6r   2020 Mar 4, 8:24am  

Trump-Biden debates should be pure entertaining gold, I am really looking forward to them.

On a side note, I kinda like Bloomberg. I am appropriating his "horse-faced lesbians" quote.
224   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 4, 8:29am  

But this flash coronation wasn't because Biden convinced his competitors that he had the best policies or the best temperament to take on Donald Trump. There is one reason and one reason alone the establishment has rallied around Biden: He is not Bernie Sanders.

The argument coming from the establishment is all about electability and uniting the party. "We need somebody who can beat Donald Trump," said O'Rourke in his speech endorsing Biden. "If we spend the next four months dividing our party, we will spend the next four years watching Donald Trump tear apart this country," said Klobuchar in her speech. Democratic voters who are understandably terrified of a Trump second term apparently listened.

In reality, propping up Biden was a desperate reaction to the momentum Sanders had after winning the popular vote in each of the first three primary states. It is guaranteed to drag out the primary as long as possible, and creates a distinct risk of a brokered convention that will create a lot of bitterness and make beating Trump more difficult. Before the establishment rallied around Biden, his campaign was on the verge of collapse. He had been crushed in the first three states, he had little money or campaign organization, and was polling far behind Sanders in most of the Super Tuesday states.

Now it is basically an even race. While Sanders lost in the South Tuesday, he also won Utah, Colorado, Vermont, and probably California (it will take days for the votes to be counted there). With approximately two thirds of delegates yet to be awarded, it will likely be a grueling race that will go on until the convention.

Electability is the only argument that has even a fig leaf of plausibility, so it's what the establishment goes with. But it's not remotely the case that Biden is a sure thing while Sanders is a terrible gamble. Sanders, it's true, would be the most left-wing president in history, and openly identifies as a socialist — something a majority of Americans say they dislike. But it's also true that Sanders has been tarred as a socialist for years now and still consistently polls well ahead of Trump, and about as well as Biden. He also has an army of dedicated activists, and by far the strongest fundraising machine in the party (outside of oligarchs like Mike Bloomberg who can casually spend a half-billion dollars of their own money).

Biden also has particular risks that are not easily quantifiable but still obvious. He has run a horrible, lazy campaign — indeed, even Clyburn said as much while endorsing him. He had basically no ground game in any of the Super Tuesday states. He has a long history of being creepy with women. And let's be frank: Biden is clearly suffering some kind of cognitive decline. He performed horribly in almost all of the debates, frequently rambling off on bizarre tangents. He opened his speech Tuesday night by mixing up his wife and his sister. He also has a habit of making up fake stories — like that he was involved in civil rights protests, or that a general asked him to honor a brave soldier, or most recently, he was arrested in South Africa trying to visit Nelson Mandela. None of these things happened.

Biden's appalling record is also utterly at odds with the modern Democratic Party's branding. He voted for the Iraq War, and defended that vote for months afterwards. He was a key architect of the bankruptcy bill that made it impossible to get rid of student loan debt, and various crime and war on drugs bills that threw millions of Americans in prison. He tried repeatedly to cut Social Security and Medicare, and voted for multiple rounds of financial deregulation. (That is just scratching the surface.)


Conversely, going with a moderate like Biden risks deflating the activist energy that has built up around Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. The younger voters that Sanders is winning by huge margins in most states may figure the fix is in and decide not to vote in November.

In short, Joe Biden could very easily lose to Trump. Unlike Obama, he is not some once-in-a-generation political talent. He is a fading, washed-up operator with decades of baggage who has lost a step or three. Nominating him would be a terrific gamble — and given his record and staffing choices (one of his top policy advisers is the architect of the disastrous 1996 welfare reform), a gamble with very little upside.

https://theweek.com/articles/899790/anybodybutbernie-comeback
225   Eman   2020 Mar 4, 8:29am  

marcus says
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The desperation is kicking in already.

BDS so soon ?


Hahaha, good one. My biz partner, who is a never Trumper, prefers Bloomberg. He thinks Bloomberg has the best shot. He said Trump will chew Biden up and spit him out. Anyways, time will tell. Let’s the fun begin.
226   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 4, 8:33am  

If Warren had dropped out like Klobuchar and Buttigieg did (she was told not to), Bernie would have won Mass, Oklahoma, Minnesota, and Maine handily.

Had Buttigieg and Klobuchar not dropped out, he also might have won all these states and maybe others except possibly Minnesota.

Man, the Berniebros must be upset at the great steal. The best revenge is not to participate in fundraising, calling, canvassing for the Insider's Jerryrigged 2020 Campaign.

Of course, many Bernie Bros have serious TDS, so they'll take more humiliation and abuse from the Dem Insiders because OrangeManBad.
229   AD   2020 Mar 4, 5:47pm  

TrumpingTits says
Yet, Creepy Uncle Joe is the one identified in polls most able to beat Trump.


You don't realize how much hysteria and Trump Derangement Syndrome is within the Democrat Establishment and its cult followers.

They want that border open in the south, pronto y rapido.

Without that, then they can't force a 1 party state (and Republicans as token party) soon enough through a demographic shift.

If Biden wins, then I guarantee you the border will be the first major policy he will address as President.
230   HeadSet   2020 Mar 4, 5:59pm  

If Biden wins, then I guarantee you the border will be the first major policy he will address as President.


The border will be second. The first thing hill will do is cover up all the deep states crimes with the fake dossier, etc.
231   AD   2020 Mar 4, 7:24pm  

HeadSet says
If Biden wins, then I guarantee you the border will be the first major policy he will address as President.


The border will be second. The first thing hill will do is cover up all the deep states crimes with the fake dossier, etc.


Yeah, probably put all the investigators like Durham under an "ongoing investigation".

Democrat media establishment (NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, etc.) will already have declared them guilty of treason.
233   WookieMan   2020 Mar 5, 6:30am  

So I'm pretty convinced Biden is going to be the nominee at this point. It's going to be ugly, but just reading headlines it's going to be Biden. Don't need to wager actual money, but any bets on who his VP choice is?

I'm still not sure, but I feel like it has to be a woman. My initial reaction is NOT Hillary.

I'm trying to think of who it could be. Dark horse though (no pun intended, I think...) Barack Obama? Not sure if that's even possible though. But it most certainly would give the base wet dreams and get them out to vote. Just the prospect of Obama potentially filling in for a senile Joe. Or Joe being the paper POTUS and Obama running the show. It's honestly about their best hopes to beat Trump. Maybe only hope if it's an actual possibility.
234   Misc   2020 Mar 5, 9:23pm  

My guess is that he will pick Klobuchar as VP. She's a mid-westerner, a woman, and pulled out of the race before super-Tuesday, and gave her support to Biden.
235   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 5, 9:26pm  

WookieMan says
Dark horse though (no pun intended, I think...) Barack Obama? Not sure if that's even possible though.


You're thinking about the wrong man. It will be Obama, allright, but not Barak. It will be Michelle.
236   WookieMan   2020 Mar 6, 8:05am  

Misc says
My guess is that he will pick Klobuchar as VP. She's a mid-westerner, a woman, and pulled out of the race before super-Tuesday, and gave her support to Biden.

Minnesota is generally blue though and I don't actually think most the midwest feels they're a part of the midwest. More so Canada. Seriously. She's also not very attractive or a very compelling speaker. What works in MN doesn't jive with other parts of the midwest. It really is a weird state.

Not saying Klobuchar doesn't make sense, I just think he's going to need a push in other states that will be more up in the air come November. As sexist as it sounds, Biden will need a woman that is attractive and not a moron. From a state he has to carry to win. Ohio and Florida are tops in my book. Get that home state vote. I just think the entire Dem party is a rudderless ship at this point.

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
You're thinking about the wrong man. It will be Obama, allright, but not Barak. It will be Michelle.

lol. I don't think Michelle is that into politics. He has too much money and doesn't want the hassle.
237   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 9, 11:27pm  

The Federal Bureau of Investigation raided a health care business linked to Joe Biden’s brother in late January, seizing boxes of documents.

The raid of an Americore Health hospital represented a deepening of the legal morass surrounding James Biden’s recent venture into health care investing at a time when questions about the business dealings of Joe Biden’s relatives, and their alleged connection to the former vice president’s public service, continue to dog his presidential campaign.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/james-biden-health-care-ventures-123159
238   HeadSet   2020 Mar 10, 7:15am  

James Biden had more than half a million dollars transferred to him from the firm as a personal loan that has not yet been repaid.

Watch. Nothing will happen.
240   RC2006   2020 Mar 10, 8:02am  

Biden wishes he was Michel Jackson.
242   Patrick   2020 Mar 17, 6:09pm  

WookieMan says
So I'm pretty convinced Biden is going to be the nominee at this point.


Sure, of course it will be Biden. He represents globalists, and does the usual dance claiming that it's racist and sexist not to want your job exported to China or displaced by an illegal from Mexico.

Fortunately, I think most people see through this.
245   Shaman   2020 Mar 26, 6:19pm  

Joe Biden literally
1)Just started kissing her
And then
2)Grabbed her by the pussy!

I guess it’s one thing to talk about it with another guy like Trump did, but Biden actually did that while a sitting Senator.
250   Booger   2020 Apr 9, 4:13pm  

Biden Cuts Hole In Mask So He Can Still Sniff People's Hair

251   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 9, 5:43pm  

Hausmeister T says
Hillary won the popular vote, all Biden has to do is win the electoral vote.


...which Trump won. But in any case, voting is already too easy, it needs to be toughened.

Dems will push for mail-in voting without standards using the Coronavirus excuse; Republicans in the States must hold firm and give not a single inch. The enthusiasm gap will cream the Dems this November, all things being equal. Dems need Union Organizers and Nursing Home Admins with lists of members, retirees, and patients to fill out lots of blank ballots Broward style in order to win.


Republicans should fight very hard when it comes to state wide mail-in voting. Democrats are clamoring for it. Tremendous potential for voter fraud, and for whatever reason, doesn’t work out well for Republicans. @foxandfriends— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 8, 2020
254   Booger   2020 Apr 11, 10:36am  

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't looking forward to the debates:

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