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What Globalism Did Was To Transfer The US Economy To China

The real issue here is China stealing high tech technology. Forcing these companies to keep the tech in country is paramount to long term defense
Chinas military modernization and soon to be regional domination is largely based on forcing American companies to divulge trade secrets in order to do business in China.

USA dominance in hi tech is our one ace in the hole over the world. We give that away as we are doing now, we are fucked 10-20 years out...

Ceffer says

If support and maintenance of Greenland is burdensome to a small country like Denmark, it might be for sale. Whether Trump's diplomacy is fallible, his thought on the matter isn't. The USA acquired the Louisiana Purchase and Alaska the same way.

We need to ask nicely for Greenland, then take it if they refuse.

It's the biggest security asset we could acquire. And as it is now, it's the biggest threat to the US, if left alone. China is itching to get their claws in Greenland and control all infrastructure.

How would Trumpturds feel if Britain asked to buy some Flyover state like Tennessee and then got all pissy when Trump said no? What if Britain asked to buy Kansas and Trump said yes without asking Kansas?

Bad analogy, Trump is not after an integral part of Denmark. A better analogy would be Australia or Japan asking to buy some of our outlying Pacific island territories.

BlueSardine says

The real issue here is China stealing high tech technology.

At this point I think that is right, it is certainly the most important long term issue, we are way past the low level manufacturing jobs that left years ago. I don't think anyone disagrees that China needs to be confronted the question was and is how. In past threads I have noted that the Chinese are extremely good and devious negotiators, that the real negotiations start after the contract is signed. They look long term, not the next news cycle.They cant be trusted. Trump and his team, such as it is are no match, simple as that. Trump is absolutely a terrible negotiator, period.

People can bloviate that we can just take our marbles and go home if they wont bend to the will (through Tariffs) of the chosen one. This totally ignores the current interconnectedness of the world wide supply chain. You can complain about globalism but the fact is we have it and unwinding is neither simple nor without pain.

Tenpoundbass says

We need to ask nicely for Greenland, then take it if they refuse.

It's the biggest security asset we could acquire. And as it is now, it's the biggest threat to the US, if left alone. China is itching to get their claws in Greenland and control all infrastructure.

Could be why Trump is making a point of Greenland. Denmark would require partners to develop it. Trump may be rattling sword that if they do have a 'partner' it better be USA up to and including selling the entire territory, and not global competitors.

If you ask who has the best weather science in the world, most people would say USA, but it is Finland. The Finns and Russians are making plans for the Arctic becoming open water most of the time for shipping transport. Greenland doesn't look like an economic or strategic waste land in that context.

Ceffer says

If you ask who has the best weather science in the world, most people would say USA, but it is Finland. The Finns and Russians are making plans for the Arctic becoming open water most of the time for shipping transport.

The Finns have been the good little bitches for the Russians since the end of WWII. So I doubt they ate going to be a serious player.

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

The Finns have been the good little bitches for the Russians since the end of WWII.

Being on the border, how much of a choice do they have with the Russian bear breathing down their backs?

There is a detective show on Netflix called 'Bordertown' that is kind of fun to watch for being a bit different. It is in a town in Finland near the Russian border. The Russians and Finns seem to go back and forth without too much frisson, but it is clear the Finns regard the Russkis with trepidation as a more violent and amoral species. The Finnish detective often has to explore leads in St. Petersburg, and his side kick is a fearsome female blond former Russian agent.

jazz_music says

SUCKER!

In the mid 90s I realized arguing with Christian Scientists was almost as insane as being one of them because they are fucking crazy. These days so many of the lefties out-crazy them with a generous helping of raycist.

jazz_music says

Lefties who want to avoid more climate related deaths. --not crazy

They should get out of the sun or put on a coat!

I rest my case...

jazz_music says

not these beauty queens you see on Fox

lol. Not exclusive to FOX fyi. Every channel, including local affiliates is all T&A. Find me a female anchor with a B cup and I'll find you 10 more that are bigger. Journalism died with the invention of television. They're selling ads, plain and simple. Ignore the bias' it's all bullshit.

ORDERED? I don't think so.....RECOMMENDED.....probably.

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

Ceffer says

If you ask who has the best weather science in the world, most people would say USA, but it is Finland. The Finns and Russians are making plans for the Arctic becoming open water most of the time for shipping transport.

The Finns have been the good little bitches for the Russians since the end of WWII. So I doubt they ate going to be a serious player.

I heard a Soviet General say that he does not understand why the West sees Finland as an example of subservience. After all, Finland is the only country to defeat the Soviet Union in war. The General pointed out that Soviet tanks had visited Berlin and many other European capitals, and even Peking. But Soviet tanks never visited Helsinki.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

That's because the Soviet cunts saw the Finns stuffing molotovs into the vents of German tanks and cooking their guys alive.

??? Try Mannerheim Line. Soviet lost a million men trying to puncture the Finn version of France's failed Maginot Line.

HeadSet says

Iranian_Oil_Burse says

Ceffer says

If you ask who has the best weather science in the world, most people would say USA, but it is Finland. The Finns and Russians are making plans for the Arctic becoming open water most of the time for shipping transport.

The Finns have been the good little bitches for the Russians since the end of WWII. So I doubt they ate going to be a serious player.

I heard a Soviet General say that he does not understand why the West sees Finland as an example of subservience. After all, Finland is the only country to defeat the Soviet Union in war. The General pointed out that Soviet tanks had visited Berlin and many other European capitals, and even Peking. But Soviet tanks never visited Helsinki.

Because the were pretty much abandoned by the West after they sided with Hitler. And after WWII they were told to suck USSR's dick along with Poles, Hungarians and such. It's the Yalta thing.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Right. Distracted by the conference call. Spoke with one Finn in London years ago about tank defense, Sibelius and Finnish nationalism and his favorite security metaphor was the Finn tank defense of running logs to the power wheels of Russian tanks and jamming them. The scheme stopped the tank and, without new costs to the attacker, exposed the crew who would have to leave the tank to remediate the fault.

Ask him why Finns were never accepted into NATO.

HeadSet says

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

That's because the Soviet cunts saw the Finns stuffing molotovs into the vents of German tanks and cooking their guys alive.

??? Try Mannerheim Line. Soviet lost a million men trying to puncture the Finn version of France's failed Maginot Line.

And? They still lost territory and accepted it officially (unlike, say, Japan which still contests the annexation of Kuril islands). They were never accepted into NATO.

WookieMan says

lol. Not exclusive to FOX fyi. Every channel, including local affiliates is all T&A. Find me a female anchor with a B cup and I'll find you 10 more that are bigger. Journalism died with the invention of television. They're selling ads, plain and simple. Ignore the bias' it's all bullshit.

Advertisers are getting woke. Gillette quietly dropped the Man Shaming campaign, their new ads, being tested in Oz, feature firemen shaving.

Nabisco and Proctor and Gamble are starting to realize that Milennial Urban Snobs aren't the ones to reach for consumer staples. They order take-out, have maids, and when they use domestic products, it's some weird shit from Etsy that costs 5x more.

If Execs had a brain, they'd purge their Marketing Departments and see out Married Moms who graduated from UOhio or UKentucky, and lay off all the Brookline and SFBA residents.

HonkpilledMaster says

If Execs had a brain, they'd purge their Marketing Departments and see out Married Moms who graduated from UOhio or UKentucky, and lay off all the Brookline and SFBA residents.

Lol. Spot on. I think the smart ones are hiring that demo. It's why my wife makes a shitload of money. Hot midwest girl with a brain, but doesn't overthink or pull the feminist shit are in high demand for companies that know what they're doing.

Liberals will never understand how this is a negotiating card with China.

Hot midwest girl with a brain

Extra benefit is that midwestern girls are good cooks, to boot.

WookieMan says

Lol. Spot on. I think the smart ones are hiring that demo. It's why my wife makes a shitload of money. Hot midwest girl with a brain, but doesn't overthink or pull the feminist shit are in high demand for companies that know what they're doing.

And cut their salary expenses. Far cheaper to employ people in Lexington than in Long Island City.

Ceffer says

If you ask who has the best weather science in the world, most people would say USA,

If you ask an american.......FIXED

HeadSet says

Hot midwest girl with a brain

Extra benefit is that midwestern girls are good cooks, to boot.

Lol, brief scan and I read this way wrong the first time. I read it as "midwestern girls are good with cocks." Mine is good with cocks and food, so I guess the statement is true still either way. She's the winter cook though and I just love grilling and smoking during the warm months. So we trade off.

I should ask her if she can play with my cock while I cook though... Reason number 1 not to have kids. The random fun definitely gets cut back substantially, ugh.

The 1977 law signed by Jimmy Carter that gives Trump sweeping powers to prohibit companies from trading with China.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/the-1977-law-signed-by-jimmy-carter-that-gives-trump-sweeping-powers-to-prohibit-companies-from-trading-with-china

Fortwaynemobile says

But because Trump did it, suddenly it’s bad

TRump did it ?

Hahahahaha. Whoaooooo, hahahahaha, lol , woooo,hoooo hooo weee. That's a good one.

jazz_music says

Paradise, CA is lost to wild fire that has been attributed to climate change

Or maybe bad forestry management?
jazz_music says

Open your eyes. You are being scammed.

You have no reputable sources.

I should ask her if she can play with my cock while I cook though..

There is a joke in here somewhere about burning your wiener on the grill....

marcus says

Fortwaynemobile says

But because Trump did it, suddenly it’s bad

TRump did it ?

Hahahahaha. Whoaooooo, hahahahaha, lol , woooo,hoooo hooo weee. That's a good one.

He's negotiating a deal for America, we all benefit out of it.