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B.A.C.A.H.
2019 Dec 29, 9:38am
B.A.C.A.H.
2019 Dec 29, 9:38am
Here in the Bay Area, school is childcare for families where both parents work in full time jobs. They must drop off their kids and still get to work on time. It's all about the housing cost.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 29, 9:40am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Dec 29, 9:40am
Leave it as is, the folks back then were way smarter than the fuck ups today.
Every time the folks in our time screws with shit, they think the people along time ago fucked up. They make a muck of everything.
Every time the folks in our time screws with shit, they think the people along time ago fucked up. They make a muck of everything.
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RWSGFY
2019 Dec 29, 2:15pm
RWSGFY
2019 Dec 29, 2:15pm
My kids start school at 8:30 (middle school) and 8:25 (elementary). But the older also has sports practice starting 5:30am twice per week. And he's a straight A student. And no, "one hour for extracurricular activities per day" is definitely not enough. And sitting the whole day at school for a sake of imitating "real life workplace" sounds dumb. My boss doesn't give a fuck if I decide to play basketball at 2pm as long as I do my job. Job well done is not measured in "hours sat on my ass under fluorescent lights" anymore. At least not in my industry.
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mell
2019 Dec 29, 2:19pm
In Germany school used to start at 7:45 and ended at 1 which enables the kids to be done for lunch and then have the whole day for something else given they are doing their homework at some point, maybe they changed it by now. There's pros and cons for both approaches, but if they move it to later, then it should be an all day option so the kids are aligned with their parents schedules. In CA many schools have after school programs, from free for some public schools to very expensive. But the taxpayers should already expect work day care if necessary since it's their tax dollars. There's nothing wrong with starting and ending early though and then having lots of time for outdoor and other hobby stuff. Bottom line is you need to get your work done, if you're responsible enough and can do it from 7:30 to 1 or 2 why not. It's all about choices vs just being a drone.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 29, 2:23pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 29, 2:23pm
Liberal_in_blackface says
The vast majority of jobs require people to be at a cash register or desk or station until quitting time at set hours, paid by the hour.
Schedules should be aligned with the parent's and working schedules in the Greater Economy, since the point of school is to prepare kids to be adults and citizens (not creative activists)
IRL, Basketball and Working out happens for most people after 5PM. Same for kids, then.
Maybe the other extreme is good for middle school onwards: Open Campus. If some welfare ho problem child leaves and doesn't disrupt the good kids, maybe that's a good thing. Whatever happened to Parental Responsibility?
Job well done is not measured in "hours sat on my ass under fluorescent lights" anymore. At least not in my industry.
The vast majority of jobs require people to be at a cash register or desk or station until quitting time at set hours, paid by the hour.
Schedules should be aligned with the parent's and working schedules in the Greater Economy, since the point of school is to prepare kids to be adults and citizens (not creative activists)
IRL, Basketball and Working out happens for most people after 5PM. Same for kids, then.
Maybe the other extreme is good for middle school onwards: Open Campus. If some welfare ho problem child leaves and doesn't disrupt the good kids, maybe that's a good thing. Whatever happened to Parental Responsibility?
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HeadSet
2019 Dec 29, 3:51pm
HeadSet
2019 Dec 29, 3:51pm
In some localities, an early start has to do with buses. For example, High School starts at 7:00AM so the students can be dropped off and the same buses used for Middle School at 8:30 AM, and so on for the Elementary Schools start at 9:30.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 29, 6:20pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 29, 6:20pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
There are before and after school programs (we use Boys and Girls Club) where working parents can drop off their kids before school and pick them up after school. The Club takes them to and from school. It might not be the most organic experience for kids, but it is both safe and convenient, even if it does cost some coin.
Here in the Bay Area, school is childcare for families where both parents work in full time jobs. They must drop off their kids and still get to work on time. It's all about the housing cost.
There are before and after school programs (we use Boys and Girls Club) where working parents can drop off their kids before school and pick them up after school. The Club takes them to and from school. It might not be the most organic experience for kids, but it is both safe and convenient, even if it does cost some coin.
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Shaman
2022 Apr 7, 9:02am
Shaman
2022 Apr 7, 9:02am
RWSGFY says
My high schooler starts at 8:15, middle schooler also at 8:15, and my elementary student starts at 8:30.
Btw that “new calendar” has 13 months not 12 and they are unnamed. Seems fishy.
Both my kids start at 8:15am. Pretty reasonable, IMO.
My high schooler starts at 8:15, middle schooler also at 8:15, and my elementary student starts at 8:30.
Btw that “new calendar” has 13 months not 12 and they are unnamed. Seems fishy.
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HeadSet
2022 Apr 7, 1:04pm
HeadSet
2022 Apr 7, 1:04pm
Shaman says
Sell naming rights! Imagine Microsoft 28th, 2022. Maybe Amazonuary 15th, 2024.
Btw that “new calendar” has 13 months not 12 and they are unnamed
Sell naming rights! Imagine Microsoft 28th, 2022. Maybe Amazonuary 15th, 2024.
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WookieMan
2022 Apr 7, 1:33pm
WookieMan
2022 Apr 7, 1:33pm
RWSGFY says
They should start earlier. I'd be game for 6:30-7am. AND keep them in school the same amount of time.
One of the hardest habits I had to break. Sleeping in once we had kids. I'm now awake at 4:30-5am every morning. No coffee. Catch is I take a 30-60 minute nap most days. Any person I know that is productive and wealthy is up that early. There are certainly exceptions, maybe music or owning a restaurant, but most jobs you should and need to be up early. Get your house and business in order.
I don't have to work much now, but I still wake up that early. Pop some edibles before bed and you wake up super refreshed. I still have trouble sleeping because of our dying dog, but anything beyond 5 hours or so is fucking amazing. People that sleep 8-10 hours in my opinion are lazy. I just need 5 solid hours.
Both my kids start at 8:15am. Pretty reasonable, IMO.
They should start earlier. I'd be game for 6:30-7am. AND keep them in school the same amount of time.
One of the hardest habits I had to break. Sleeping in once we had kids. I'm now awake at 4:30-5am every morning. No coffee. Catch is I take a 30-60 minute nap most days. Any person I know that is productive and wealthy is up that early. There are certainly exceptions, maybe music or owning a restaurant, but most jobs you should and need to be up early. Get your house and business in order.
I don't have to work much now, but I still wake up that early. Pop some edibles before bed and you wake up super refreshed. I still have trouble sleeping because of our dying dog, but anything beyond 5 hours or so is fucking amazing. People that sleep 8-10 hours in my opinion are lazy. I just need 5 solid hours.
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Booger
2022 Apr 7, 2:47pm
Booger
2022 Apr 7, 2:47pm
HeadSet says
They will all be named after black trannies, and George Floyd.
Shaman saysBtw that “new calendar” has 13 months not 12 and they are unnamed
Sell naming rights! Imagine Microsoft 28th, 2022. Maybe Amazonuary 15th, 2024.
They will all be named after black trannies, and George Floyd.
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PeopleUnited
2022 Apr 7, 9:21pm
PeopleUnited
2022 Apr 7, 9:21pm
Booger says
In the last days there will come a popular leader who implements a calendar/time change perhaps just like this. Daniel 7:25
“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
In the last days there will come a popular leader who implements a calendar/time change perhaps just like this. Daniel 7:25
“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2022 Apr 7, 10:30pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2022 Apr 7, 10:30pm
Oh and 13 is an unlucky number too!
(In the West, I think it may be lucky in Asian countries)
(In the West, I think it may be lucky in Asian countries)
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AmericanKulak
2022 Apr 8, 12:39am
AmericanKulak
2022 Apr 8, 12:39am
PeopleUnited says
This happened already. Nobody measures time according to the Roman Republican or Julian Calendar. Thank goodness we never adopted the French Revolutionary Months.
Justinian didn't replace the measurement marked (AUC) from the founding of Rome with AD and BC until centuries after Constantine ordered the adoption of Christianity and the fall of Rome itself.
The 13 month Lunar Calendar was used in the Royal Navy and by the Essenes (and also the Chinese)
In the last days there will come a popular leader who implements a calendar/time change perhaps just like this. Daniel 7:25
“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
This happened already. Nobody measures time according to the Roman Republican or Julian Calendar. Thank goodness we never adopted the French Revolutionary Months.
Justinian didn't replace the measurement marked (AUC) from the founding of Rome with AD and BC until centuries after Constantine ordered the adoption of Christianity and the fall of Rome itself.
The 13 month Lunar Calendar was used in the Royal Navy and by the Essenes (and also the Chinese)
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PeopleUnited
2022 Apr 8, 1:37am
PeopleUnited
2022 Apr 8, 1:37am
AmericanKulak says
Yes, calendar was changed by many through the ages including Julius Cesar, who did so to realign seasons with their traditional months.
We can only speculate but the future leader might seek to change to an eight day week or something like a 10 day week. And it doesn’t say that he will be successful Or at least not for long because the end of the verse describes how he will only have 3.5 years it seems before his time is cut short.
This happened already.
Yes, calendar was changed by many through the ages including Julius Cesar, who did so to realign seasons with their traditional months.
We can only speculate but the future leader might seek to change to an eight day week or something like a 10 day week. And it doesn’t say that he will be successful Or at least not for long because the end of the verse describes how he will only have 3.5 years it seems before his time is cut short.
UK Schools start just before 9. German Schools start at 8:30. American Schools start, on average, at the ungodly hour of 7:30 - before most Adult workers are expected to be a work themselves.
There's also another reason why American schools are pushed to start early and end early - the sports lobby. Ending earlier allows more daylight time for practice, coach. However, it burdens the fuck out of families and, especially in HS, is not training for the Real World, where few jobs end at 2PM, especially in a post industrial, post agriculture economy. "Hey Boss, let me start work at 7 so I can leave at 2 everyday and play basketball" doesn't happen in the Real World.
The solution is to start school itself at 9AM, with students arriving half an hour before hand, and end it at 4:30-5PM. This still leaves a hour or so for extracurricular activities, and schoolkids mimicking an adult day and arriving home at the same time Parents are returning themselves.
We would also save money on Breakfast. Drunken/Drugged Out Welfare Hos have more than enough food stamps (based on THREE meals per day per person) to make breakfast, as do Migrant Benefit Scammers. It's the very least they can do.
This also means less opportunity for trouble, such as ghetto rats flashmobbing a mall, and safer for young kids especially dark Northern climes in the morning.