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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   195,120 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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1047   mell   2020 Mar 21, 5:29pm  

We're coming in anywhere between 25%-30% new infections again today with testing now at high capacity. While we're probably the last nation to peak this growth is less than what China and Europe experienced. If we get New York under control which now accounts for ~ 50% of infections then we should be fine soon. The good news is that European countries are now mostly between 10%-15% new infections, some up to 25%, but definitely the European curve looks like it's starting to flatten. Everyone just needs some warm weather now. More globull warming!
1051   Patrick   2020 Mar 21, 6:39pm  

Damn, hard to even look without the desire to share germs with her.
1052   mell   2020 Mar 21, 6:44pm  

What are the fcking odds that a heat susceptible virus pandemic engulfs CA during the fcking coldest winter and spring ever. March and april always used to be good for the first intense heat wave of the year. Instead we are bracing for another arctic storm. More! Warming! Now!
1053   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Mar 21, 9:02pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Chinese gardener stops to eat eggs from a bird's nest, raw, as she trims the hedges.


Not eggs, baby birdies! Great twitter thread btw.
1054   Patrick   2020 Mar 21, 9:34pm  

Saw a Chinese woman picking mussels of the rocks on the Pacifica coast today. Almost laughed.
1055   Patrick   2020 Mar 21, 10:06pm  

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/144036/Microbiologists-mock-conspiracy-claims-on-Wuhan-virus

Two leading Hong Kong microbiologists said it is easier for people to remember the coronavirus as "Wuhan virus" and slammed the culture of wild meat consumption in mainland China, saying mainlanders have forgotten the bitter lessons of the 2003 Sars outbreak, RTHK reports.


Even a Chinese guy says we should call it the "Wuhan virus".
1056   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Mar 21, 11:09pm  

Patrick says
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/144036/Microbiologists-mock-conspiracy-claims-on-Wuhan-virus

Two leading Hong Kong microbiologists said it is easier for people to remember the coronavirus as "Wuhan virus" and slammed the culture of wild meat consumption in mainland China, saying mainlanders have forgotten the bitter lessons of the 2003 Sars outbreak, RTHK reports.


Even a Chinese guy says we should call it the "Wuhan virus".


ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL!!!!!!
1060   mell   2020 Mar 22, 10:28am  

Now that testing is happening at high capacity we will get the real numbers, we may come in between 40%-50% of new infections today. Cepheid just got a test approved that gives results within 45 minutes, that's a huge breakthrough, as testing and tracing will be able to reduce quarantines and make the ones put in pace more effective. The "good" news with the increased testing and case count is that the death rate in the US is now around 1% and will probably continue to drop as more less serious cases evolve with massive testing. NY continues to be epicenter. Europe continues to be flat in growth, we will see soon if it has reached its peak
1061   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 10:43am  

Thanks @mell please do keep posting the latest statistics.

When you say "Europe continues to be flat in growth" you mean that the daily increase in new cases or deaths is a fixed percent, right?

The fact that this is disproportionately affecting NY, WA, and CA seems like proof of karma. The same people that were so pro-globalization and now being more fucked by globalization than others.
1062   mell   2020 Mar 22, 10:44am  

It's still growing but roughly at the same rate. So the acceleration is flat.
1063   mell   2020 Mar 22, 10:55am  

@Patrick

this is really the best site, for the US you can drill down into the states as well by following the link:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
1064   Shaman   2020 Mar 22, 11:11am  

I won’t believe any of those numbers until people with milder symptoms can get tested without 1)being rich or famous
2)being admitted to a hospital with pneumonia
3)kissing someone in China yesterday

I still haven’t been able to be tested. Thank God I am recovering, still have some chest pain/congestion/cough. It’s been about 13 days. I have given up hope of everything being tested.
I’ll just go back to work and hope for the best.
As so many others are doing now.
1065   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 11:13am  

Thanks mell, several sites claim that cases and deaths in Italy "declined" day over day, but it doesn't look like that from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
1066   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 11:17am  

One example:

According to this article, there were only 1991 new cases in Lombardy today compared to 3251 yesterday. 361 new deaths(Article in Italian)


https://www.affaritaliani.it/milano/coronavirus-in-lombardia-361-decessi-registrati-nelle-ultime-24-ore-scarica-660845.html
1069   mell   2020 Mar 22, 12:00pm  

Patrick says
One example:

According to this article, there were only 1991 new cases in Lombardy today compared to 3251 yesterday. 361 new deaths(Article in Italian)


https://www.affaritaliani.it/milano/coronavirus-in-lombardia-361-decessi-registrati-nelle-ultime-24-ore-scarica-660845.html


The cases in the north are declining but people escaping the north brought it to the south where it's ramping. Still overall Europe seems to be close to the peak.
1070   Eman   2020 Mar 22, 12:12pm  

Shaman says
Now that testing is happening at high capacity we will get the real numbers, we may come in between 40%-50% of new infections today. Cepheid just got a test approved that gives results within 45 minutes, that's a huge breakthrough, as testing and tracing will be able to reduce quarantines and make the ones put in pace more effective. The "good" news with the increased testing and case count is that the death rate in the US is now around 1% and will probably continue to drop as more less serious cases evolve with massive testing. NY continues to be epicenter. Europe continues to be flat in growth, we will see soon if it has reached its peak


Dude, you shouldn’t be going back to work. Please do others a favor by staying home for another week or two until you’re completely healed before going back to work.

God bless!
1072   Booger   2020 Mar 22, 1:02pm  

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-united-states-deaths/

Here's what we know about the 100 people who've died in the US from coronavirus
1074   mell   2020 Mar 22, 2:17pm  

CA (esp. bay area), WA are showing a flattening of the curve as does Europe, but you won't hear this in the media for while. Their agenda is clear.
1075   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 2:58pm  

Got number for CA mell?

Let's make some graphs that the media won't make.
1076   mell   2020 Mar 22, 3:12pm  

California 1,555 +164 29 +5 6 1,520

The per state list you can get bey clicking on the USA link on the main site referenced earlier. The numbers will be final roughly by 4 AM GMT as there is late reporting, so they will likely still grow for the next few hours. The only thing that site is missing is a graph. It would be awesome if we could provide some there, as well as storing the data from the days before so you can actually model trends.
1077   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 3:52pm  

Right, no history of the previous CA numbers there. Bummer. But they do have some good graphs of the whole US at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ :



1078   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 22, 4:06pm  

Seniors are driving all over the place, stopping at the DD Drive Through, My Mom went to Walgreens and ended up with some vitamins only, went to Publix, even though her pantry is overflowing with Mac N' Cheese, Sardines, Corned Beef, Waffles in the Freezer, Puddings, Cans (plural) of Folgers, etc.

I end up with two trash bags everytime I go visit and clean out her kitchen. One lady, alone. She's got more shit than I have in my house with 5 people in it.

So school's closed, while the seniors are out gossiping and going to the Supermarkets just to gawk.

All the ladies and my mom have been out every day this week frivolously gallavanting around, just out of curiosity.

But K-12, closed.

WTF
1079   WookieMan   2020 Mar 22, 5:13pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Seniors are driving all over the place, stopping at the DD Drive Through, My Mom went to Walgreens and ended up with some vitamins only, went to Publix, even though her pantry is overflowing with Mac N' Cheese, Sardines, Corned Beef, Waffles in the Freezer, Puddings, Cans (plural) of Folgers, etc.

I end up with two trash bags everytime I go visit and clean out her kitchen. One lady, alone. She's got more shit than I have in my house with 5 people in it.

So school's closed, while the seniors are out gossiping and going to the Supermarkets just to gawk.

All the ladies and my mom have been out every day this week frivolously gallavanting around, just out of curiosity.

But K-12, closed.

WTF

My mom is taking it super serious. She locked herself down before it was asked of anyone here in IL. She smokes roughly 5 cigs a day, but outside of that is very healthy for someone that's 66.

I personally think if any car with a registration linked to someone 60+, should be pulled over and escorted back home. We can figure out how to get them food or groceries. I'd rather give them $2-5K/mo to stay home and have everything delivered.

I was skeptical at first, but if you're 60+, just stay the fuck home. Call/text a neighbor. The rest of the world can't go on like this because old people think they're invincible.
1080   Booger   2020 Mar 22, 6:06pm  

Germany has an anomalous mortality rate of just 0.4% with 23,921 confirmed cases and 92 deaths
1081   mell   2020 Mar 22, 6:09pm  

We will be coming in around 30% maybe 40% so less than expected. Also CA has 10%-15% growth, same for WA. 20 people died in CA in 2-3 months.Make up your own mind is those are numbers to panic over. 414 deaths in the US - Flu: est. 20k-50k. The plan to isolate the elderly and at risk adults and youth immediately would have been best.
1082   WookieMan   2020 Mar 22, 6:21pm  

mell says
We will be coming in around 30% maybe 40% so less than expected. Also CA has 10%-15% growth, same for WA. 20 people died in CA in 2-3 months.Make up your own mind is those are numbers to panic over. 414 deaths in the US - Flu: est. 20k-50k. The plan to isolate the elderly and at risk adults and youth immediately would have been best.

Lol, just created another thread. A week ago Chicago was more likely to kill a person living in the US... Obviously that's changing and the virus will kill a lot. Just interesting to see the hype and benchmark it agains something else that is more easily controlled.
1083   mell   2020 Mar 22, 6:27pm  

WookieMan says
mell says
We will be coming in around 30% maybe 40% so less than expected. Also CA has 10%-15% growth, same for WA. 20 people died in CA in 2-3 months.Make up your own mind is those are numbers to panic over. 414 deaths in the US - Flu: est. 20k-50k. The plan to isolate the elderly and at risk adults and youth immediately would have been best.

Lol, just created another thread. A week ago Chicago was more likely to kill a person living in the US... Obviously that's changing and the virus will kill a lot. Just interesting to see the hype and benchmark it agains something else that is more easily controlled.


It will kill a few thousand max in the US. The flu killed between 20-50 thousand in the US this season.
1084   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 22, 6:38pm  

NoCoupForYou says
All the ladies and my mom have been out every day this week frivolously gallavanting around, just out of curiosity.


In my neighborhood all cars of young and middle-aged neighbors are sitting on the driveways with rust starting to form on the brake rotors while cars of the geezers are constantly driving in and out of the cul-de-sac. WTAF?
1085   Booger   2020 Mar 22, 6:38pm  

Spanish Corona Virus cases and deaths by age ranges:
1086   clambo   2020 Mar 22, 7:41pm  

The graphs above which Patrick posted indicate a peak on March 20.
I screenshot and sent them to a few people this morning.

I’m curious to see the data next week.

I wash my hands after I go buy some groceries or etc.

I’m a little worried because I am not a spring chicken, but I have good health.

There will be a vaccine and other treatments soon I’m sure.

I worry about something else; in 2025 taxes will go up automatically and then we will be paying for the free money many times over.

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