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Did Corona push them over the edge immune system wise, probably. But was it 100% the cause of death in all these cases?
China’s extreme response to Covid 19 indicates that this virus is much more dangerous than any cold or flu. Otherwise why would they have reacted like that? That’s what concerns me the most.
But they have never responded in this manner to each other flu type virus. It seems very likely they are hiding something about its severity. I don’t want that to be true. But I’m trying to be as realistic as possible. Hundreds of millions of people quarantined, and the resultant immense damage to their economy and society. I can’t imagine this would have been done if there wasn’t a very very serious reason.
But they have never responded in this manner to any other flu type virus. It seems very likely they are hiding something about its severity.
My point is that this response is immensely more extreme than any other response China has had to a respiratory virus , a cold or flu , or even any other disease. There is obviously something different going on otherwise there wouldn’t be a different response.
PaisleyPattern saysBut they have never responded in this manner to any other flu type virus. It seems very likely they are hiding something about its severity.
I'd actually agree they're trying to hide something, but I don't think it has anything to do with the disease. Between the Hong Kong protests, the US trying to get fair trade, etc. I'm guessing the people aren't all that happy in China. This might be an "emergency" by design type thing to distract as silly as it sounds. We have zero idea how well the government has brainwashed the average Chinese person over there. I also don't put much stock in how the Chinese react with regards to something that may have been their own fuck up.
At the end of the day, this really isn't that dangerous to 99% of people. Especially in less densely populated places like the US.
Just wait for Hospitals to be overwhelmed by the number of cases, and people showing up demanding the healthcare they paid for dearly.
How long will civilized conversations go on?
Just a reminder for people on how this compares to the flu:
1 - Death rate for flu around 0.1%. For this coronavirus: 1-2%: .
Do the math.
The only way that holds is if the virus doesn't spread in the US.
Do the math
Captain Crunch is more dangerous to public health than coronavirus.
Have you seen diabetes rates lately?
Let's all be honest, a senior pandemic/epidemic right now might not be a bad thing?
Fact is most our healthcare costs are due to keeping people alive that should be dead.
The stock market has changed its mind and no longer seems to think that coronavirus is the end of the world.
China's Wuhan closes coronavirus hospital as officials hail drop in new cases
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-toll/chinas-wuhan-closes-coronavirus-hospital-as-officials-hail-drop-in-new-cases-idUSKBN20P01K
All of us are fools for even wasting time discussing this, unless you want to make money off of it.
Just a reminder for people on how this compares to the flu:
1 - Death rate for flu around 0.1%. For this coronavirus: 1-2%: 10 to 20 times more lethal.
2 - R0 (how transmittable it is) 1.3 for flu, 2-3 for coronavirus : i.e. much more contagious.
3 - For the flu, around 1% of cases are severe enough to lead to people being hospitalized. For coronavirus, 13.8% cases are severe (meaning probably hospitalized), 4.7% are critical (Critical cases were those that exhibited respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction/failure). I don't look forward to experiencing respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction/failure , even if I survive.
4 - we know the flu, and we know it will abate in March April. We don't know what will happen for coronavirus.
Do the math.
Trump's USA - proving that border controls are more effective than "I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony"
North Korea is suspiciously absent from that list.
R0 (how transmittable it is) 1.3 for flu, 2-3 for coronavirus : i.e. much more contagious.
It will just be slowed and minimized. The main problem initially will be the overwhelmed health services. Otherwise we will just have to learn to live in a world where you have a small chance of being killed by a cold.
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