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Heraclitusstudent
2020 Feb 12, 1:30pm
Heraclitusstudent
2020 Feb 12, 1:30pm
marcus says
Is that working? Or is this just pretending to do something when in fact the most obvious is not done.
If they really wanted to capture illegal, they would just show up with a U-Haul at Home Depot.
They would show up at farms and fine farmers using illegal workers.
They would refuse US citizenship for children of parents in the country illegally or on tourist visas.
They would watch bank accounts of wealthy people and track payments to nannies not reported.
Does any of this have bi-partisan support?
If you scratch a little, the establishment (both parties) fully intends to grow the population of this country through immigration to compensate for the low birth rates. The same is happening in all western countries. And low birth rates is a consequence of other choices.
Approved funding.
Is that working? Or is this just pretending to do something when in fact the most obvious is not done.
If they really wanted to capture illegal, they would just show up with a U-Haul at Home Depot.
They would show up at farms and fine farmers using illegal workers.
They would refuse US citizenship for children of parents in the country illegally or on tourist visas.
They would watch bank accounts of wealthy people and track payments to nannies not reported.
Does any of this have bi-partisan support?
If you scratch a little, the establishment (both parties) fully intends to grow the population of this country through immigration to compensate for the low birth rates. The same is happening in all western countries. And low birth rates is a consequence of other choices.
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HeadSet
2020 Feb 12, 1:58pm
HeadSet
2020 Feb 12, 1:58pm
If you scratch a little, the establishment (both parties) fully intends to grow the population of this country through immigration to compensate for the low birth rates. The same is happening in all western countries.
True, but an insane policy. A stabilized population is needed if we want to maintain a 1st World society without over depleting and over polluting. No one benefits from a mass influx of poor and illiterate except those at the top looking for slaves and vote packing.
True, but an insane policy. A stabilized population is needed if we want to maintain a 1st World society without over depleting and over polluting. No one benefits from a mass influx of poor and illiterate except those at the top looking for slaves and vote packing.
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marcus
2020 Feb 12, 10:48pm
marcus
2020 Feb 12, 10:48pm
Heraclitusstudent says
That's not what I said.
I was talking Border security. I'm didn't say anything about capturing illegals.
But if democrats were trying so hard to attract illegals, and get them in,(as Patrick loves to say) why would they have supported (with their actions) beefed up border security ?
WE got to where the influx of illegals was actually negative (net outflow) for a few years there. Way less coming in, and more leaving than coming in.
marcus says
If they really wanted to capture illegal,
That's not what I said.
I was talking Border security. I'm didn't say anything about capturing illegals.
But if democrats were trying so hard to attract illegals, and get them in,(as Patrick loves to say) why would they have supported (with their actions) beefed up border security ?
WE got to where the influx of illegals was actually negative (net outflow) for a few years there. Way less coming in, and more leaving than coming in.
marcus says
Heraclitusstudent saysmarcus saysEspecially considering that any honest person knows that bipartisan support that has existed for massively increasing border security going back more than a decade.
If there were they would pass laws in this direction.
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Heraclitusstudent
2020 Feb 13, 10:03am
Heraclitusstudent
2020 Feb 13, 10:03am
marcus says
Not sure how you can separate the 2. Border security means catching illegals and sending them back.
You seem to be saying that we should have patrols to catch people jumping the fence, but if the same people make it to 1 mile from the frontier, then we should not only welcome them but offer them free healthcare.
What kind of silly hypocrisy is that?
You still haven't explain why these particular people deserve free healthcare, but no one else does. For example why do people immigrating LEGALLY don't deserve free healthcare.
I was talking Border security. I'm didn't say anything about capturing illegals.
Not sure how you can separate the 2. Border security means catching illegals and sending them back.
You seem to be saying that we should have patrols to catch people jumping the fence, but if the same people make it to 1 mile from the frontier, then we should not only welcome them but offer them free healthcare.
What kind of silly hypocrisy is that?
You still haven't explain why these particular people deserve free healthcare, but no one else does. For example why do people immigrating LEGALLY don't deserve free healthcare.
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Businesses thought that lower wages was all they needed to be more profitable.
But they were WRONG.
It turns out that enforcing immigration law and bringing back manufacturing from China are way more profitable than the reverse, for everyone.
When working class Americans get more income because they don't have to compete with illegals and because their manufacturing jobs came back, they spend that increased income in the US. (Mexicans in the US send their income to Mexico, and the Chinese just keep their income in China.)
Trickle down fails, because they rich just throw any more money they get into the basement on the pile of cash they already have. The economy stagnates.
But trickle up works, because the working class spends the income, then businesses benefit, and profits go up.
The whole business strategy of bribing Democrats to fuck over poor citizens was not only immoral, it wasn't even profitable! When the poor get poorer, they spend less, and businesses themselves also suffer.
Trump, bless his bizarre orange soul, has shown us the right way way to Make America Great Again, by looking after our own citizens first. Business profits follow once our working class has jobs again. The economy is on an epic roll due to Trump now. May it continue!