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It didn't offer any real proof of over counting just that it is unclear if it is happening or not.
I'm not going to find it but I've said how much debt we have incurred under Trump.
Now you have called me a retard for the second time (first time was the tax argument). I'm dyslexic I've had difficulty with reading and writing my whole life. I write here because it's good practice.
That you assumed I was talking about lives lost is not on me. I'm talking about wealth loss. But somehow his slow and terrible response is everyone else's fault.
People really make themselves look stupid trying to protect Trump all the time.
Well accept for the FACT that fiscal response was achieved by taking on debt. Funny you overlook this connection. If US debt loads are not related to fiscal response please explain where the money has come from for our fiscal response if not from new debt?
Only because they pay most into the federal coffers. Red states tend to suck on governments tit while blue states are the government tit that gets sucked on.
I am shitting on Trump's poor and slow response and saying a better response might have caused less debt to be incurred.
I am shitting on Trump's poor and slow response and saying a better response might have caused less debt to be incurred.
Shaman sayshe should have kept everything running and we’d have not needed ANY stimulus bills!
My point exactly a leader might have achieved this. Trump did not.
How? What response would have been better?
The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of…in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.
the volumes of reasons that have been offered to suggest that Trump is actually the grifting petty liar he appears to always have been as far back as the examples of racial housing discrimination in Section 8 subsidized buildings
So you’re saying that Trump hasn’t been partisan enough.
But the opposition is afflicted by blind hatred?
jazz_music saysimported laborers from Poland which he refused to pay
Trump use illegal aliens, inconceivable
marcus saysMisc saysYes, cancer deaths, pneumonia deaths, deaths from the flu, and deaths from heart issues are all down and can be attributed to blindly ascribing Covid as the cause of death.
Interesting. Would you please share source(s) on this ?
www.youtube.com/embed/K8E_zMLCRNg
Do you really think there is nothing Trump could have done differently in his response that might have made for a better response?
It's the speaking and behavior that I question and how it calms the fears of a country.
Did I say there was?
Is that the year? So 40 plus years of using illegal labor.
Sad😢
. (Trump was also found to have improperly withheld compensation in the undocumented Polish worker controversy.)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
The posted article doesn't address why or if over counting is happening It's really not a source for the argument trying to be made.
I referred to straw man fallacylogic says
I had to endure straw man after straw manlogic says
with the same straw man.logic says
the straw men keep coming out to play.
Those who try to argue Trump doesn't lie are obviously deranged.
Do you honestly believe that this country got shut down without people having fear?
WookieMan saysIt's a virus. Trump, Bush, Obama, etc. ain't gonna stop it. It's going to kill who it's going to kill. But hey, Trump bad.
It would be one thing if the US was doing uniquely bad compared to other Western Countries in Wuhan AIDS fatalities.
If we removed Cuomo and DeBlasio's fuck-ups in New York, America would be the envy of the world in combating this Pandemic.
Hate to break it to you bro but Cuomo is not the President
Onvacation sayslogic says
Trump is just not cut out for the job.
What makes your guy Biden better?
He's not Trump
Onvacation says. Tell us what you think Trump's biggest baddest lie is?
My point exactly 😂
When the shit hits the fan if people need there fears calmed by the government who else would they look to?
That is the problem with logical fallacies they lead to mistakes in reasoning. If you would simple debate the argument I'm making you might be able to make more sense of it. Maybe you don't even realize that you continue to misrepresent my argument.
The main and really only function of federal government should be to protect us from physical harm from other enemies/countries in my opinion. All the other stuff is bullshit.
WookieMan saysThe main and really only function of federal government should be to protect us from physical harm from other enemies/countries in my opinion. All the other stuff is bullshit.
Sounds like Trump is doing his job. The days of president's mandating third sex bathrooms are over!
That is the problem with logical fallacies, they lead to mistakes in reasoning. If you would simple debate the argument I'm making you might be able to make more sense of it. Maybe you don't even realize that you continue to misrepresent my argument. Take a step back clear your mind, maybe that will help for you to understand my argument. Until you want to debate my argument there isn't really much left to say.
WookieMan saysIt's also not his job to make my feelings better. It's a virus. How about people get pissed at Trump because he's not making it 75 and sunny year round. That pisses me off. Fucking Trump. What a loser.
If that's the expectation of an elected official than our society if more fucked than I thought.
Unfortunately I disagree, it's not an easy job and there are many aspects to it but to say one of those is not to calm the fears of the nation is just wrong. You are welcome to prove I'm wrong but please don't change my argument, no more straw men.
Also please tell me how calming fears and controlling weather are related. I don't follow. Why can't you argue my points? We could have wrapped this up a long time ago but you seem to continually misrepresent me. They have a term for this.
My argument has not changed 1 bit.
One of the main reasons for Germany's low reported death rate is their reporting methodology. They report only COVID-19 deaths that can be attributed solely to the virus. Other countries, like the USA, have less strict guidelines, and report more cases. When all the data are in, there will be a lot of revisioning, but only to match the narrative of the respective agency (CDC, WHO, etc.) They will all want to look "right" so they can say they made the "right" decisions.
News agencies will massage this revised data to greatest effect: to generally make Trump look bad, and that "he made the wrong decisions" and "can't handle a crisis." I would dispute this based on his performance so far in many areas: Economy, Jobs, War, and Foreign Affairs. I think voters in November may remember these things. The Left seriously wants this "crisis" to extend into the fall, when they wil...
Lol, I've been here a long time. I've had multiple accounts but now this is my only one. No one has ever outed my original user name. I'm not iwog. Ive had the names hearding cats, starsky, hutch elgatouno and others but never Iwog I'm not Dan either. I did do a play on Dan's account so people would think I was him. Are you an alt account for Patrick?
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Wait, 3 percent of 1 percent?
Yes, 100 times smaller than 3 percent.
Say 100,000 die out of 300M people (actually, the population is even larger than that). That's 0.0003.
So, since 0.0086 of the US dies every year on average, this could bump up the US death rate by 3 / 86 = 3.5% this year.
Except not it wouldn't even be that much, because a large fraction of those who die weren't going to make it through a normal 2020 anyway.
It's still not at all clear that this was worth imploding the economy for. Remember that 81,000 died of the flu in 2018 and no one even blinked.