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2020 Apr 4, 11:19am   3,179 views  90 comments

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Should we Reopen the Economy:

* In a Week or So
* In a Month
* Right now
* Slavsya otechesvo, at least 3 months

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51   Bd6r   2020 Apr 5, 6:24pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Kind of like Educators and Admins, and many Federal and State Workers. Thy continue to collect their full salary, which allows them to be Anti-Trump and hope for an economic disaster to immanentize the eschaton.

Now, if this goes beyond April 15th, they should all be furloughed until school opens or the economy re-opens or both. Why should 100% of State Health Officials checking restaurants, bars, barber shops, etc. be getting 100% of pay when 90% of those are closed?

It's absolutely ridiculous that one group should continue to get paid in full for no or little work, while tens of millions are out of work entirely. Nobody should be that privileged in a national emergency.

That way they have skin in the game, and their TDS will be tempered by economic realities like the vast majority in the Private Sector.

They need to check their EduPrivilege!

Just move classes to June or July and shut down schools in April. Everyone is happy - educators get paid, students learn, and taxpayers do not get hosed...
52   mell   2020 Apr 5, 7:44pm  

Hausmeister T says
Should we Reopen the Economy:

* In a Week or So
* In a Month
* Right now
* Slavsya otechesvo, at least 3 months

Choosing this date like a lottery number? Like Trump, based on a holiday?
What a dumb question. How about we base it on the COVID-19 developments?


May 1st. Either way, active cases will be down by then and it can be done in steps. Plus sommer is upon us which will further depress cases.
53   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 13, 11:33am  

Spain reopens, Italy to follow shortly.

54   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 13, 11:53am  

Hausmeister T says
Should we Reopen the Economy:

* In a Week or So
* In a Month
* Right now
* Slavsya otechesvo, at least 3 months

Choosing this date like a lottery number? Like Trump, based on a holiday?
What a dumb question. How about we base it on the COVID-19 developments?


NoCoupForYou says
Spain reopens, Italy to follow shortly.



Yes how bout we do that hoss? Or should I say troll account.
55   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 13, 12:23pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Yes how bout we do that hoss? Or should I say troll account.


Then all of a sudden, Democrats weren't interested in emphasizing what Europe was doing.

And even Svatcheem Junior is talking about Reopening slowly by slowly adding to the number of essential workers; he'll be meeting with other Northeast Governors later today.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-details-goals-for-eventual-reopening-as-ny-death-toll-surpasses-10000
56   clambo   2020 Apr 13, 12:38pm  

In a week or two this should end.

Everyone should get a mask and get back to work.
57   WookieMan   2020 Apr 13, 1:02pm  

clambo says
In a week or two this should end.

Everyone should get a mask and get back to work.

I won't be wearing a mask, as it's not legally enforceable at this point, but I concur. May 1st at minimum. Hoping for sooner, but I know that's not likely.
59   zzyzzx   2020 Apr 13, 2:16pm  

clambo says
Everyone should get a mask and get back to work.


Since I'm leaving my job soon anyway, I may as well go out in style:
60   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Apr 13, 2:50pm  

komputodo says
Fortwaynemobile says
From news

What is this thing "news"?


It’s that carefully crafted propaganda, subliminal mind fuck America. Sprinkled with occasionally useful information to stay slightly relevant.
62   Shaman   2020 Apr 28, 9:27am  

Fortwaynemobile says
It’s that carefully crafted propaganda, subliminal mind fuck America. Sprinkled with occasionally useful information to stay slightly relevant.


Exactly.
I watched this video on the tv (it’s long, over an hour) and couldn’t find anything non factual about it. Sure paints a grim picture for mass media in this country. It’s just propaganda folks!

www.youtube.com/embed/0wTiCxXgrJw
63   Bd6r   2020 Apr 28, 10:22am  

Houston: ca. 2.4 million inhabitants + realistically a few hundred thousand illegals

Corona results: 35 dead, including 1!!!! without underlying health issues, the guy was 70. This is as of 4-5 days ago, please see below.
So, it was worth shutting down the whole damned city, making it go broke, and inconveniencing everything because in 2 months of panic 1!!!!!!!! healthy person died, and without shutdowns if would be 2 or 3??? We have a murder per day, and a person killed in car crashes every day, these victims are healthy!

HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- During Friday's briefing on the city's COVID-19 response, Mayor Sylvester Turner announced the first COVID-19 death in the City of Houston with no underlying health issues.
Turner said the individual was a white man in his 70s who died on April 12.

The city of Houston is now reporting an additional 74 new cases, bringing the total to 3,120. The death toll climbed to 35.

Turner also briefly spoke about the city's budget deficit due to COVID-19. He said Houston's deficit would be between $170 and $200 million, including a sales tax reduction of $100 million.

"It would be the worst deficit that the city has faced," Turner said. "This one will be worse than the city's deficit in 2016."
64   Patrick   2020 Apr 28, 10:39am  

rd6B says
without underlying health issues, the guy was 70


Being at 92% of the life expectancy for men could be considered an underlying health issue.
65   WookieMan   2020 Apr 28, 11:01am  

rd6B says
Turner also briefly spoke about the city's budget deficit due to COVID-19. He said Houston's deficit would be between $170 and $200 million, including a sales tax reduction of $100 million.

"It would be the worst deficit that the city has faced," Turner said. "This one will be worse than the city's deficit in 2016."

Dude, in sales tax states it's going to be a blood bath. I don't know Houston at all, but since most places pay sales taxes monthly, we won't know until they're paid in May. March was a cut back in some places, but April was shut down. That money is gone. I think the sales tax funds being substantially short of the estimates is going to wake some people up.
66   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 28, 11:54am  

https://theathletic.com/1780933/2020/04/28/nascar-begins-prep-for-may-races-2-at-darlington-2-at-charlotte/

NASCAR scheduling multiple races in May including mid week ones!

Good for the country and hopefully pulls in some new fans.
67   Patrick   2020 Apr 28, 12:17pm  

WookieMan says
I think the sales tax funds being substantially short of the estimates is going to wake some people up.


Yes, when government officials start to realize that they have cut into the money that pays their own salaries, and for no good reason, this madness will stop.

That could take a while though. They still seem drunk on their newfound power. The hangover will be rough on them too, thank God.
68   socal2   2020 Apr 28, 12:23pm  

WookieMan says
Dude, in sales tax states it's going to be a blood bath. I don't know Houston at all, but since most places pay sales taxes monthly, we won't know until they're paid in May. March was a cut back in some places, but April was shut down. That money is gone. I think the sales tax funds being substantially short of the estimates is going to wake some people up.


Illinois will just jack up your property tax again to make up for the short fall.

God knows that the Democrat and unions running your State will NEVER ask any sacrifice from government workers and their obscene pension system.
69   RWSGFY   2020 Apr 28, 12:46pm  

socal2 says
Illinois will just jack up your property tax again to make up for the short fall.


Quick, somebody tell me how eeeeeevil Prop 13 is.
70   EBGuy   2020 Apr 28, 1:26pm  

TEOTWAWKI says

Quick, somebody tell me how eeeeeevil Prop

Signatures are being counted as we speak. At this point, very likely that it passes (if it gets the required signatures) as state will be desperate for money come November. Doesn't affect personal residence or smaller rentals.

1870. (19-0008A1)
INCREASES FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES BY CHANGING TAX ASSESSMENT OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY. INITIATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. - (Random Sample Count 4/27/2020 (PDF))
Summary Date: 10/17/19 | Circulation Deadline: 04/14/20 | Signatures Required: 997,139
Proponent(s): Anthony Thigpenn, Benjamin McBride, Carol Moon Goldberg
Increases funding for K-12 public schools, community colleges, and local governments by requiring that commercial and industrial real property be taxed based on current market value. Exempts from this change: residential properties; agricultural properties; and owners of commercial and industrial properties with combined value of $3 million or less. Increased education funding will supplement existing school funding guarantees. Exempts small businesses from personal property tax; for other businesses, exempts $500,000 worth of personal property. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: Net increase in annual property tax revenues of $7.5 billion to $12 billion in most years, depending on the strength of real estate markets. After backfilling state income tax losses related to the measure and paying for county administrative costs, the remaining $6.5 billion to $11.5 billion would be allocated to schools (40 percent) and other local governments (60 percent). (19-0008A1.)
72   WookieMan   2020 Apr 28, 1:36pm  

socal2 says
Illinois will just jack up your property tax again to make up for the short fall.

God knows that the Democrat and unions running your State will NEVER ask any sacrifice from government workers and their obscene pension system.

You're likely correct. Sales taxes generally cannot be made up if lost and the only place locally it can be made up is property taxes or some new tax/borrowing. I'm fortunately one of the few in the low 4 figure property tax realm in IL. Most everyone I know is pushing, if not already into 5 figures. These are modest homes too.
73   Patrick   2020 Apr 28, 7:49pm  

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReopenCA?src=patrick.net

Twitter feed for those interested in reopening California now.
74   Shaman   2020 Apr 28, 8:25pm  

We are on the precipice of popular revolt. It’s simmering right now, as the people grow more and more frustrated and angry. This weekend expect more matches and rallies and demonstrations, especially in states like California which have indicated long term repression of normal activity. Already certain businesses with little to lose are reopening. What can the state do? Fine them? Good luck collecting from a business that is going to be shuttered anyway.
75   mell   2020 Apr 28, 9:40pm  

Some are doing their part climbing over the fences to play tennis I heard..
76   Bd6r   2020 Apr 28, 9:53pm  

OccasionalCortex says
VAT revenues collapsed

One can wonder how stupid our elected official are, if they did not see connection between shutting everything down and tax collection collapse
77   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 28, 10:28pm  

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78   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Apr 29, 5:30pm  

Patrick says
WookieMan says
I think the sales tax funds being substantially short of the estimates is going to wake some people up.


Yes, when government officials start to realize that they have cut into the money that pays their own salaries, and for no good reason, this madness will stop.

That could take a while though. They still seem drunk on their newfound power. The hangover will be rough on them too, thank God.


As long as cities and states don’t get bailed out. It’ll force governors to care about private sector
79   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 30, 7:29pm  

Family called all our favorite restaurants for reservations for tomorrow and they are already booked. Dallas is ready to roll.

— Robert Donachie (@RJDonachie3) May 1, 2020
80   just_passing_through   2020 Apr 30, 9:15pm  

Hot damn! Re-open this shit pronto! Goals have long been met.
82   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 May 1, 12:21pm  

NoCoupForYou says

Family called all our favorite restaurants for reservations for tomorrow and they are already booked. Dallas is ready to roll.

— Robert Donachie (@RJDonachie3) May 1, 2020


www.youtube.com/embed/mbH60wCO-Yw
85   Patrick   2020 May 12, 12:24pm  

https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-education/central-michigan-university-brings-students-back-campus-fall-despite-coronavirus

Students will return to Central Michigan University in the fall, the Mount Pleasant school announced Monday, despite expected continued health concerns over the coronavirus pandemic.

Students are likely to be sitting farther apart in classrooms, and dormitory suites will have fewer residents, but the school’s 21,000 students will be back in Mount Pleasant, CMU President Bob Davies said Monday in a news release.


Good. College students have next to zero chance of dying from Wuhan virus.
86   AD   2020 May 12, 12:38pm  

WookieMan says
Dude, in sales tax states it's going to be a blood bath. I don't know Houston at all, but since most places pay sales taxes monthly, we won't know until they're paid in May. March was a cut back in some places, but April was shut down. That money is gone. I think the sales tax funds being substantially short of the estimates is going to wake some people up.


Yes, and the mayor of Nashville, TN is predicting a +30% increase in local property tax to compensate for the significant reduction in sales tax.
87   Bd6r   2020 May 12, 12:39pm  

Patrick says
Good. College students have next to zero chance of dying from Wuhan virus.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/23/843329096/with-campuses-closed-columbia-and-pace-students-sue-for-damages

Thursday's suits were filed in federal court on behalf of Xaviera Marbury, a student at Pace, and an unnamed student at Columbia. Both complaints say students are owed reimbursement as well as damages for services that are no longer available now that campuses are closed. In both cases, those services include:

I. Face-to-face interaction with professors, mentors, and peers;
ii. Access to facilities such as computer labs, study rooms, laboratories, libraries, etc.;
iii. Student governance and student unions;
iv. Extra-curricular activities, groups, intramurals, etc.;
v. Student art, cultures, and other activities;
vi. Social development and independence;
vii. Hands-on learning and experimentation; and
viii. Networking and mentorship opportunities.
88   Ceffer   2020 May 12, 12:59pm  

ix. Sitting around a hookah with Marxist professors discussing social subversion tactics to conquer 'The People'.
89   Patrick   2020 Jun 21, 5:56pm  

ad says
the mayor of Nashville, TN is predicting a +30% increase in local property tax to compensate for the significant reduction in sales tax.


I think this makes it important to hold off on buying any real estate now.

As property taxes rise to compensate for the loss of sales tax revenue, property prices will fall.

Let it marinate a while, stewing in the poor judgment of those who shut down the whole economy.
90   Ceffer   2020 Jun 21, 6:13pm  

I'm hoping the State of Jefferson will succeed in getting statehood. I could move my primary residence somewhere up there and keep the place in Santa Cruz as a second.

That would allow escape from insane Blue politics and taxes without having to move very far. Rural California is conservative, so two more electoral votes for somebody other than Dems.


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