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TrumpingTits says

No, you didn't say that. You are moving the goal posts when you were outed for saying bullshit, that's all

Yeah, whatever, "Coal is essentially dead, as it should be" was made in the context of Biden and Clinton's statements in coal country. Try reading the whole thread its about the election.

TrumpingTits says

We will -- if we aren't already -- become a net coal exporter j

And still the industry is dying, or is there an argument that it is thriving after 3.5 years of Trump? If you think exports will save the Eastern mining jobs, better get your ticket on Mr. Peabody's train before they are sold out. The export market is or was primarily for low sulfur coal mined by strip mining in the West. Oh that's a beautiful thing to base your economy on.

Coal mining, as a long term career, won't come back.

But instead of training ppl to become let's say an HVAC repairmen (Amy Klobuchar's idea) instead of telling 'em to get a computer science degree or attend Yale Law, is not the way to win the vote of the rust belt worker.

Both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, played the white collar card to their disadvantage.

Rin says

It doesn't have to be strictly used for power generation though South Africa (Sasol corp) has successfully converted coal to gasoline for decades. The US also has a Sasol type of facility up in North Dakota.

True and how does that compete in a world awash in oil? Countries convert coal to a liquid fuel typically because they cant buy oil, for one reason or another. It makes little to no economic sense, particularly today.

Rin says

But instead of training ppl to become let's say an HVAC repairmen (Amy Klobuchar's idea) instead of telling 'em to get a computer science degree or attend Yale Law, is not the way to win the vote of the rust belt worker.

Both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, played the white collar card to their disadvantage.

Yes I agree. So Trump lied to them and The Dems didn't understand that these guys had honorable professions that provided for their families and now they are fucked. But its not coming back. I think Biden has a better understanding of this than Clinton. Whether he can enunciate clearly and connect to these guys like the the Dems of old is another question.

rdm says

Whether he can enunciate clearly and connect to these guys like the the Dems of old is another question.

So far, it isn't happening. In fact, he can't even connect with Massachusetts/Vermont moderates, his base.

And I doubt anything will change between now and mid-Oct, as his dementia or let's say early-onset dementia, becomes more apparent.

socal2 says

rdm says

I must admit I didn't know what "cancel culture" is. I could care less, from a personal standpoint it is meaningless.

FFS - it is kind of you to admit that you live in a total bubble.

In case you have missed it over the last few weeks, our Founding Fathers are getting "cancelled" all over the country being called racists and having their statues ripped down by your Taliban brothers.

The National Anthem is being cancelled at sporting events. Aunt Jemima? Eskimo Pies? Uncle Bens?

Our entire fucking history is being cancelled with the NYTimes B.S. 1619 project now being taught at our schools.

Maybe a Euro. There was another poster here (or probably the same person under a different screen name) who claimed he had never heard of the TV show cops.

It’s impossible that an American hasn’t heard of a e decade long television show that is so deeply ingrained in American culture...akin to any American aged 35 or older claiming not to know what The Dukes of Hazard is.