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Flatten the Curve


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As the numbers of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths surge to record levels in multiple epicenters, local and state officials are struggling with whether and how much to reverse the rollback of restrictions on individuals and businesses. For example, following a gradual reopening over about a month, on Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced the reintroduction of statewide restrictions that would again shut down bars, all indoor dining, family entertainment, zoos and museums following a surge in coronavirus cases. The governors of Florida, Texas, and Arizona, all now epicenters of infection, have also slowed or reversed reopening, but their actions have been tepid. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is even insisting on opening schools in the face of record-high numbers of infections.

These officials would do well to recall the observation of The Great One. No, not Dr. Tony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health—the other one, hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, who once explained, “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.”

Anticipating what’s coming is important in confronting an infectious disease, especially one whose dynamics are what many infectious disease experts consider their worst nightmare. COVID-19 is highly infectious, has a lengthy incubation period (during which asymptomatic infected persons can unwittingly shed virus and infect other people), and causes serious, sometimes fatal illness.

Those unusual characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, and the idiosyncrasies and spectrum of presentations of the illness—from pulmonary symptoms (including pneumonia and pulmonary fibrosis) to a range of non-respiratory manifestations, (including loss of sense of smell or taste, confusion and cognitive impairments, fainting, sudden muscle weakness or paralysis, seizures, ischemic strokes, kidney damage, and, rarely, a severe pediatric inflammatory syndrome) mean that we are on a steep learning curve.

The problem is: if we react too slowly to changing circumstances, we can fall off a metaphorical cliff.

There’s an old brain teaser that perfectly illustrates this point. Consider a pond of a certain size, on which there is a single lily pad. This particular species of lily pad reproduces and duplicates itself once a day, so that on day 2, you have two lily pads. On day 3, you have four; on day 4, you have eight; and so on. Here’s the teaser: if it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely, how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway?

The answer? 47 days. In just 24 hours, between day 47 and day 48, the lily pads would double in size and overtake the pond. Moreover, on day 40, the pond would still appear to be relatively clear; just eight days from the pond being completely covered, you’d hardly know the lily pads were there.

If the same thing happens with a virulent and highly contagious infectious agent, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you don’t know you’re in trouble until you wake up one morning to find that you’re overwhelmed. Like the lily pad example, the daily number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. was 18,577 on June 15th—just three weeks later, on July 10th, the number had shot up to 66,281.

Dr. Anthony Fauci
Dr. Anthony Fauci

FLATTENING THE CURVE TO BEAT THE IMPENDING CLIFF

From early in the pandemic, the public health mantra worldwide has been: “flatten the curve.” That important concept, which was in vogue several months ago, seems largely forgotten today.

In the above graphic from the University of Michigan, the blue curve is the viral equivalent of the lily pads, suddenly covering the pond. It represents a large number of people (shown on the vertical axis) becoming infected over a short time (horizontal axis), and, in turn, overwhelming our health care system with people who need hospitalization, or even an Intensive Care Unit (ICU).

People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

If, however, political officials, individuals, and communities take steps to slow the virus’s spread, the cases of COVID-19 will stretch out across a more extended period, as depicted by the flatter, yellow curve. As long as the number of cases at any given time doesn’t bleed past the dotted line marking the capacity of our nation’s health care system, we’ll be able to accommodate everyone who is very sick.

Curve-flattening has fallen out of focus in recent months, in part because some political leaders reopened too aggressively and prematurely, basing policy on their constituents’ “pandemic fatigue,” instead of on the advice of epidemiologists and infectious disease experts.

But it’s still critical to avoid the pattern of the blue curve, not only to spare hospitals and ICUs—which are especially under stress in parts of Arizona, Florida, and Texas—but also so that we can continue the gradual reopening of the nation’s businesses and schools. Reopening relies on curve-flattening. As the NIH’s Dr. Tony Fauci says frequently, public health and economic considerations are not in opposition but are opposite sides of the same coin; we can’t fully restart and resume commerce until the pandemic is under some measure of control. People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

That means we need to start anticipating and stop playing catch-up—as the governors of Florida, Arizona, and Texas have been doing, relying on a combination of magical thinking, Happy Talk, and too-little-too-late remedies, instead of aggressive, evidence-based public health policies.

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, for instance, has offered no strategy for blunting the spike in COVID-19 cases other than to keep repeating that there were enough hospital beds to treat those who fall ill. And yet, ICU beds and ventilators in use by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients in Arizona both hit new records on July 12th and were under stress, according to data reported by hospitals to the state.

On July 10th, a physicians group gathered outside Florida Governor DeSantis’s mansion in Tallahassee to urge him to issue an order mandating the use of face masks statewide, which arguably should have been done months ago. Masks have long been considered essential to slowing the spread of COVID-19, but, inexplicably, the Governor resisted. And only on July 10th did Texas Governor Greg Abbott finally mandate the wearing of face masks, and demand the prohibition of large gatherings and the closing of bars across the state.

Elected officials must heed Wayne Gretzky’s admonition and stay ahead of the coronavirus, in order to lower its rate of transmission. That’s the only way to slow the rise of new cases.

Evidence-based policies, such as requiring masks in public, prohibiting large indoor gatherings, and indoor dining at restaurants, are important. But as we’ve seen with California, even aggressive imposition of those kinds of strictures has not been sufficient—in large part because many people, especially younger ones, have failed to comply. As California allowed businesses and public places to reopen, bars, boardwalks, and beaches became crowded with large numbers of maskless patrons. It’s no wonder, then, that as of July 13th, hospitals in the state reported a 27.8% increase in hospitalized patients over the previous 14 days and a 19.9% increase in ICU patients over that same period. In fact, as a result of noncompliance, many local governments in the Golden State have had to coordinate with law enforcement agencies to issue citations and explore civil alternatives through code enforcement, environmental health, or other local government personnel.

Of course, the need for heightened consequences for noncompliance is unfortunate, but it will help to re-flatten the curve. That will spread out the demands on hospitals, which must have sufficient space, supplies, and healthy staff to care for all those who need hospital-level care—whether for COVID-19, a stroke, trauma, emergency surgery, or childbirth. It’s strong, but necessary, medicine—which possibly could have been avoided with more intense efforts to get the public to comply with wearing masks, social distancing, and frequent hand-washing.

If politicians properly understood their role in flattening the curve, they wouldn’t have to resort to policing and ticketing. They would instead launch a tsunami of public service announcements from all manner of dignitaries and celebrities, including prominent politicians, actors, rock stars, and athletes—maybe even The Great One himself—demonstrating how we can anticipate instead of falling behind the curve.

That non-coercive strategy could be a winner.


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Henry I. Miller, M.S., M.D.
Henry I. Miller, a physician and molecular biologist, is a Senior Fellow at the Pacific Research Institute. He was the founding director of the FDA’s Office of Biotechnology.


https://humanevents.com/2020/07/14/flattening-the-curve-is-still-the-right-answer/

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521   Eric Holder   2020 Aug 3, 4:14pm  

prodigy says
Fuck WHO??
Try to keep up...

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article#:~:text=Recent%20epidemiologic%2C%20virologic%2C,symptoms%20never%20develop).

Eric Holder says
Fuck WHO. Where's the study?


Yes, fuck WHO and fuck your link: all they cite there is "modeling evidence". Weakest sauce of them all. I cited a study based on observation of 455 people who were in contact with asymtomatic carrier and not a single fucking one got the fucking Covid from them.
522   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:14pm  

Resorting to personal attacks is basically admitting you have run out of evidence to back up your assertions.
Thanks for the win!

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
Try and keep up.


Go fuck yourself.
523   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:18pm  

Well i'll take the WHO over a study by 50 chinese scientists employed by the commie bastard leadership putting out crap to cover their covid19 assault on humanity..

"A study on infectivity of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers
Author links open overlay panelMingGaoa1LihuiYangb1XuefuChencYiyuDengdShifangYangeHanyiXueZixingCheneXinglinGaoe
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The Second School of Clinical Medicine, Southern Medical University, Guangdong Provincial People's Hospital, Guangdong Academy of Medical Sciences, Guangzhou, 510515, China
b
Hospital Infection Control Division, Guangdong Provincial People's Hospital, Guangdong Academy of Medical Sciences, Guangzhou, 510080, China
c
Department of Infectious Disease, Guangdong Provincial People's Hospital, Guangdong Academy of Medical Sciences, Guangzhou, 510080, China
d
Guangdong Provincial People's Hospital, Guangdong Academy of Medical Sciences, School of Medicine, South China University of Technology, Guangzhou, 510080, China
e
Department of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, Guangdong Provincial People's Hospital, Guangdong Academy of Medical Sciences, Guangdong Provincial Geriatrics Institute, Guangzhou, 510080, China
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a href="/post/1333874&offset=#comment-1692242">Eric Holder says
P.P.S. You can start you "not double-blind, not peer-reviewed" whining now. But this shit is still better that that WHO politisized crap.
524   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:20pm  

I guess some people are just suckers for chinese propaganda...
525   Eric Holder   2020 Aug 3, 4:21pm  

prodigy says
Resorting to personal attacks is basically admitting you have run out of evidence to back up your assertions.


No. Now you need to try and keep up with what just happened: I basically wiped floor with your and your weak sause political bullshit by pointing to a real scientific study. There was no need to tell you to go fuck yourself because your arguments were "strong" - they were completely obliterated. The reason you were told to go and fuck yourself is for your condescending tone.

Now go and fuck yourself again.
526   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:21pm  

And you swallowed the chinese coverup study, hook, line, and sinker...LOL

Eric Holder says
I cited a study based on observation of 455 people who were in contact with asymtomatic carrier and not a single fucking one got the fucking Covid from them.
527   mell   2020 Aug 3, 4:21pm  

prodigy says
Try and keep up.

“The WHO created confusion yesterday when it reported that asymptomatic patients rarely spread the disease,” an email from the Harvard Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.”


Eric Holder says
prodigy says
Remember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.


This has been debunked.


The WHO knows jack shit and is seriously corrupt - they were the ones downplaying it on behalf of the CCP as long as possible and once everyone in the West got their contagion it suddenly becomes the most dangerous and infectious illness so the West suffers drastic economic consequences while Chyna reopens. Same goes for Harvard Global Health. The only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa. If a person is asymptomatic all the time they are hardly shedding and therefor hardly contagious. Everything else is still just speculation. You can't seriously mandate asymptomatic people wearing masks outdoors in public, most European countries don't even mandate them in big enough and ventilated indoor spaces anymore.
528   Eric Holder   2020 Aug 3, 4:22pm  

prodigy says
And you swallowed the chinese coverup study, hook, line, and sinker...LOL

Eric Holder says
I cited a study based on observation of 455 people who were in contact with asymtomatic carrier and not a single fucking one got the fucking Covid from them.


It has no value as a "cover up" because it doesn't cover anything up. Try harder, little buddy.
529   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:22pm  

Which makes the CCP, and their 'studies' even worse.
mell says
The WHO knows jack shit and is seriously corrupt - they were the ones downplaying it on behalf of the CCP
530   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:26pm  

Exactly. So to use any chinese study as evidence of anything Covid is patently stupid and ignorant.
At least the WHO has to answer to the rest of the world for funding.
The chinese do not answer to anyone.

mell says
downplaying it on behalf of the CCP as long as possible and once everyone in the West got their contagion it suddenly becomes the most dangerous and infectious illness so the West suffers drastic economic consequences while Chyna reopens.
531   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:28pm  

#Patrick

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
Resorting to personal attacks is basically admitting you have run out of evidence to back up your assertions.


No. Now you need to try and keep up with what just happened: I basically wiped floor with your and your weak sause political bullshit by pointing to a real scientific study. There was no need to tell you to go fuck yourself because your arguments were "strong" - they were completely obliterated. The reason you were told to go and fuck yourself is for your condescending tone.

Now go and fuck yourself again.
532   mell   2020 Aug 3, 4:30pm  

prodigy says
Exactly. So to use any chinese study as evidence of anything Covid is patently stupid and ignorant.
At least the WHO has to answer to the rest of the world for funding.
The chinese do not answer to anyone.

mell says
downplaying it on behalf of the CCP as long as possible and once everyone in the West got their contagion it suddenly becomes the most dangerous and infectious illness so the West suffers drastic economic consequences while Chyna reopens.


The link between being symptomatic and spreading a virus is well established, you don't need a study for this. There are a few viruses that are most contagious just before the person is showing symptoms, but remember without symptoms they're also not coughing or sneezing, so you really have to be indoors with them for a while. Again, if you never develop symptoms, your body kept the viral count low by producing antibodies fast and you're hardly contagious.
533   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:30pm  

The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell says
The only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa
534   prodigy   2020 Aug 3, 4:33pm  

It makes the virus look less contagious than it really is.
Making china's coverup look less destructive than it really is.
Try harder. ( I don't have pet names for my pecker, sorry )

Eric Holder says
It has no value as a "cover up" because it doesn't cover anything up. Try harder, little buddy.
535   Onvacation   2020 Aug 3, 4:38pm  

prodigy says
Remember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.


So you're back to everyone being locked down.
536   Onvacation   2020 Aug 3, 4:38pm  

prodigy says
Remember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.


So you're back to everyone being locked down.
537   Onvacation   2020 Aug 3, 4:45pm  

A virus just as bad or worse burns through the population on a regular basis. What is different about covid-19?

A corrupt and demented old man is on the democratic presidential ticket, the Intel agencies and media are being exposed as co-opted, and Epstein did not kill his self.
538   mell   2020 Aug 3, 5:23pm  

prodigy says
The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell says
The only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa


That can be said for many dangerous viruses going around anywhere in the world and if you combine all the casualties from other acquired infections they eclipse covid.
539   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 7:42am  

Using a 100% chinese government funded study regarding Covid 19, after the disinformation campaign the chinese waged in december/january, is like getting fucked in the ass by a mongolian car salesman, and then bringing your wife in for seconds while your eyes are still bulging...

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
Resorting to personal attacks is basically admitting you have run out of evidence to back up your assertions.


No. Now you need to try and keep up with what just happened: I basically wiped floor with your and your weak sause political bullshit by pointing to a real scientific study.


Hey, thanks for the victory lap! ( ps. learn how to spell )

Eric Holder says
Now go and fuck yourself again.
540   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 7:43am  

That's a pretty broad statement. Way too broad to spend any significant time researching.
Any legit place on the web where all this information about viruses and casualties is summarized and documented so I can have some faith in that statement?

mell says
prodigy says
The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell says
The only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa


That can be said for many dangerous viruses going around anywhere in the world and if you combine all the casualties from other acquired infections they eclipse covid.
541   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 7:45am  

The numbers, frequency, and contagiousness.

Onvacation says
A virus just as bad or worse burns through the population on a regular basis. What is different about covid-19?
542   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 7:46am  

Well I'm open to whatever works.
This isn't a political issue for me.

Onvacation says
prodigy says
Remember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.


So you're back to everyone being locked down.
543   PeopleUnited   2020 Aug 4, 7:53am  

prodigy says
Well I'm open to whatever works.
This isn't a political issue for me.

Onvacation says
prodigy says
Remember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.


So you're back to everyone being locked down.


What Sweden does is working. No economic shutdown and comparable mortality.
544   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 7:55am  

I think what is unknown is how much viral load one needs to pass on the virus.
Covid 19 is much more contagious than your average run of the mill virus.
The WHO is covering their ass by saying 'there is more study needed to determine if an asymptomatic person who never develops symptoms can still pass on the virus'
It is a NOVEL virus, so nothing is written in stone yet...

prodigy says
The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell says
The only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa
545   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 8:14am  

Swedish mortality rate is way above average

PeopleUnited says
What Sweden does is working. No economic shutdown and comparable mortality.




546   socal2   2020 Aug 4, 8:50am  

prodigy says
Swedish mortality rate is way above average


Yep - for now.

But alot of the world is getting a second wave now which will tighten the numbers.

Also, we have to factor in how much more harm lockdown countries have done to our populations in terms of postponing cancer/heart screenings that will manifest in more deaths in the coming months/years, increased alcoholism, increased drug use and suicide for people losing jobs and and being disconnected from loved ones and society. Let alone millions of kids not getting educated and being abused at home.

Many people seem pretend that lockdowns have no to little impact on our public health. I think we will be seeing negative ramifications for years to come. The BLM riots are just one of many ramifications.
547   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 9:12am  

Agreed.
Angry jobless people with nothing to do. Protests are an outlet.
And as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.

socal2 says
I think we will be seeing negative ramifications for years to come. The BLM riots are just one of many ramifications.
548   mell   2020 Aug 4, 9:38am  

The mortality rate mostly correlates with the average age of the population and the way deaths are counted (with vs of Covid).It's all roughly the same.
549   WookieMan   2020 Aug 4, 10:02am  

prodigy says
And as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.

Minority of rioters? Lol. Haven't heard that one yet.
550   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:07am  

Well one sees what one wants to see.
google the pictures.

WookieMan says
prodigy says
And as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.

Minority of rioters? Lol. Haven't heard that one yet.
551   WookieMan   2020 Aug 4, 10:13am  

prodigy says
Well one sees what one wants to see.
google the pictures.

WookieMan says
prodigy says
And as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.

Minority of rioters? Lol. Haven't heard that one yet.

Rioters are rioters. There's no minority was the point. Public protests and rioters are completely different things. Rioters cannot be a minority of public protest. They are rioters.
552   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:22am  

Seriously?
protests consist of peaceful people ( usually the majority ), and people that cause physical destruction of property and attack law enforcement ( usually the minority )
I know this. You know this. Your post is just disingenuous.

WookieMan says
Rioters are rioters. There's no minority was the point. Public protests and rioters are completely different things. Rioters cannot be a minority of public protest. They are rioters.
553   socal2   2020 Aug 4, 10:52am  

prodigy says
Seriously?
protests consist of peaceful people ( usually the majority ), and people that cause physical destruction of property and attack law enforcement ( usually the minority )
I know this. You know this. Your post is just disingenuous


Talk about being disingenuous!

Only a small minority of cops are bad or racist.

Only an infinitesimally small percent of black people killed each year is done by cops.

So aren't all the "peaceful" protesters being disingenuous going around claiming that America has a systemic racism and police brutality problem? They may not be burning courthouses down or looting stores, but they are still propagating a monstrous lie about their country further dividing our country by race.

Isn't it disingenuous to claim the major reason why the African American community is so dysfunctional is due to cops and not generations of black boys running around with no fathers?
554   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:58am  

Yes.
socal2 says
So aren't all the "peaceful" protesters being disingenuous going around claiming that America has a systemic racism and police brutality problem?
555   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:58am  

Yes.
socal2 says
Only a small minority of cops are bad or racist.
556   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:59am  

Yes.
socal2 says
Only an infinitesimally small percent of black people killed each year is done by cops.
557   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 10:59am  

Yes.
socal2 says
Isn't it disingenuous to claim the major reason why the African American community is so dysfunctional is due to cops and not generations of black boys running around with no fathers?
558   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 11:00am  

Yes.
prodigy says
Seriously?
protests consist of peaceful people ( usually the majority ), and people that cause physical destruction of property and attack law enforcement ( usually the minority )
I know this. You know this. Your post is just disingenuous.

WookieMan says
Rioters are rioters. There's no minority was the point. Public protests and rioters are completely different things. Rioters cannot be a minority of public protest. They are rioters.
559   prodigy   2020 Aug 4, 11:00am  

All of the above are "YES".
560   Onvacation   2020 Aug 4, 12:04pm  

prodigy says
I think what is unknown is how much viral load one needs to pass on the virus.

Why do you think that?
prodigy says
Covid 19 is much more contagious than your average run of the mill virus.

How do you know?
prodigy says
The WHO is covering their ass by saying 'there is more study needed to determine if an asymptomatic person who never develops symptoms can still pass on the virus'

So they don't know.
prodigy says
It is a NOVEL virus, so nothing is written in stone yet...

So nobody knows.

What we do know is that we were told to lockdown for two weeks so we don't overwhelm the hospitals with THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE! This has morphed into a new normal that benefits nobody but the owners.

It's clear that many people are willfully ignorant or scared stupid.

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