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Right, imagine how things will be when a REAL pandemic comes along.

CDC just released numbers that in US, for all death certificates listing COVID as a cause, only 6% list just COVID as the cause of death. 94% of all COVID deaths have other contributing causes.

And if you were to do an audit of these deaths I’d bet money that you’d find tons of hospitals just putting covid on the form just for the $$$, that’s how the industry works in the US.

rocketjoe79 says

This is a pandemic?

You're right, it's not a pandemic. Never was.

The goal of the "pandemic" and masks, along with riots and fires, is to instill fear and destabilize society so that Trump cannot continue leading America to greater prosperity and greater wages for working people, which he has been so successful at in his first three years.

There are trillions at stake here from outsourcing to China and insourcing tens of millions of illegals. That's serious money, and it all depends on keeping wages down in the US so that our owners can take that money instead.

The people profiting the most, like the remaining Koch brother and Jeff Bezos, and their allies in China, are quite willing to cause immense pain for the public to cause discontent while Trump is president, in the hopes that this reduces his chances for re-election.

(I know the fires thing sounds paranoid, but at least one of them was deliberately set, so I suspect more of them were as well.)

I was promised bodies in the street!

www.youtube.com/embed/QcbR1J_4ICg

Patrick says

You're right, it's not a pandemic. Never was.

Yup and we still get the occasional Karen masker on the forum telling us to wear them and save other people, lol. I actually don't think a true pandemic can occur with modern medicine and treatments anymore. And that will only get better. Everyone I know that got it has been asymptomatic and maybe a day or two of minor symptoms like a cough or feeling tired at worst. I don't even think this would kill 1,000 years ago.

But you're exactly right that it's a fear campaign. You get people to think about the air around them killing them and their mortality and people will become irrational like flipping a switch. Even smart people. The fear of death is a powerful tool that powerful people and orgs can use. One of the biggest things I've learned and maybe figured out, don't fear death. It's the only thing that is 100% guaranteed, 100% of the time. Enjoy life and have fun because at some point you dead and there's nothing you can do about it.

Pandemic granted the pols their fondest wish: "If only Rome had but a single neck". It's been planned for years as a way to cancel people's rights and impose tyranny/torture/punishment.

rocketjoe79 says

Let's use NPR's numbers:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news

I live in California: we have about 40 million people. We have 700K "cases": this is a 1.75% case rate.
We have had about 13K deaths, or about 0.0325% deaths.
Total.
Since the beginning.
This is a pandemic?

Nationwide numbers: 1.8% case rate. Death rate: .055%
Again, this is a pandemic? The Spanish flu was a pandemic. This is a blip on the global scale.

Not to take away from your impact, but below are the numbers TPTB will say matter “, cause they are higher.

13,000 deaths out of 700k cases = 1.85% death/case rate.

That is still low as shit. But the crazies will want to talk down the .03% number. Also, the 13k death rate is the new “due to corona virus only count” or the total? I will have to look it up.

Instead of them wasting a shitload of time on a vaccine, what should be done occurring is development of a “predisposition to acute response/death due to COVID 19” test that can be administered to everyone so that an individual can choose how isolated they feel they need to be. Determine what self responsible safeguards they need to take to limit the threat to themselves.

ForcedTQ says

That is still low as shit.

True, because "cases" are people who were sick enough to seek treatment, while most people who get infected either don't notice it or hardly think it worth bothering about.

Exactly, cases are just people who have chosen to voluntarily be tested. Many people who have had it and been asymptomatic or felt maybe only one or two of the symptoms have most likely NOT gone and gotten tested. Therefore the actual death rate/infected case is even LOWER!

It’s the fakest pandemic in history.
In my county in 6 months about 4 guys have died.

A Supercomputer analyzes Covid19, figures out how it kills people, and suggests ten different already FDA approved medications to help patients recover!

“Earlier this summer, the Summit supercomputer at Oak Ridge National Lab in Tennessee set about crunching data on more than 40,000 genes from 17,000 genetic samples in an effort to better understand Covid-19. Summit is the second-fastest computer in the world, but the process — which involved analyzing 2.5 billion genetic combinations — still took more than a week.
When Summit was done, researchers analyzed the results. It was, in the words of Dr. Daniel Jacobson, lead researcher and chief scientist for computational systems biology at Oak Ridge, a “eureka moment.” The computer had revealed a new theory about how Covid-19 impacts the body: the bradykinin hypothesis. The hypothesis provides a model that explains many aspects of Covid-19, including some of its most bizarre symptoms. It also suggests 10-plus potential treatments, many of which are already FDA approved. Jacobson’s group published their results in a paper in the journal eLife in early July.
According to the team’s findings, a Covid-19 infection generally begins when the virus enters the body through ACE2 receptors in the nose, (The receptors, which the virus is known to target, are abundant there.) The virus then proceeds through the body, entering cells in other places where ACE2 is also present: the intestines, kidneys, and heart. This likely accounts for at least some of the disease’s cardiac and GI symptoms.“

Lots more!

https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercomputer-analyzed-covid-19-and-an-interesting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63

Shaman says

A Supercomputer analyzes Covid19, figures out how it kills people, and suggests ten different already FDA approved medications to help patients recover!

Exactly. Modern medicine likely already had therapeutics baked in to solve this based on previous virus and ailments. Yet all this fucking focus on a vaccine. It doesn't work for influenza in many cases if they've taken the vaccine. There's not going to be a vaccine to end covid and this is known. How about we get the flu taken care of first.... ass holes.

If somebody is 80 years old and has multiple life-threatening conditions and they happen to die with the additional positive test for covid19, is that a covid death? If an 80 year old with life expectancy of 5 additional years actually dies of covid (not other conditions), how is that compared to the death of a 3 year old (with 82 more years of life expectancy) from the common flu? It's all politics/marketing. Really, covid could be the savior of medicare and social security when all is said and done.

SunnyvaleCA says

how is that compared to the death of a 3 year old (with 82 more years of life expectancy) from the common flu?

Have a good friend that lost their 5 year old to a bacterial infection about 4 years ago. It's not only about the kid missing out on an entire life, it's about the parents missing out on what they created. Grandma dying sucks ass, but generally they've lived 70+ years on this planet and had their fun and chance at living their fullest life. We're shutting down people that likely on average have 50-60 years of life ahead of them, with almost zero risk of death. That's not cool.

WookieMan says

We're shutting down people that likely on average have 50-60 years of life ahead of them, with almost zero risk of death. That's not cool.

I've lost a lot of friends over the years. My old neighborhood was a tight knit community. Urban sprawl has made it a soulless suburb but we still have a semiannual get together at the old park.

We keep a list of all members who have passed on. Motorcycle and car wrecks took quite a few. Drugs, alcohol, and obesity also took its toll. There was a lot of cancer. The list is long and only gets longer. As one of my friends said, "Eventually we're all going to be on that list."

We're all going to die.

Covid's a killer. It took at least a couple thousand before their time. Through government overreaction It also killed the plans and put off the dreams of millions of people.

Stop the masquerade, end the senseless rules, stay home if you are sick, And Wear your fucking mask and hide in your fucking house if you are afraid of getting a cold.

This new normal is not working for me.

Having said that I will mask for food. I have to. They won't let me in the stores or pick up food at restaurants unless my mouth is covered. Only those who follow government edicts are allowed to eat in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Onvacation says

Having said that I will mask for food. I have to. They won't let me in the stores or pick up food at restaurants unless my mouth is covered. Only those who follow government edicts are allowed to eat in the San Francisco Bay Area.

As weird as it sounds, I'm fortunate in IL. Masks are actually not enforced here for the most part even though JB no neck just implemented a "mandate" that you have to wear them while talking to a server in a restaurant. I just played volleyball last night and did the handshake line after all three games. No masks being worn whatsoever, indoor or outdoors at the bar.

This chart is a pile of shit.
No data on any accompanying morbidity for most if not all but covid 19.
So covid 19 number is 848k, until you can rule out comorbidities for all the other illnesses.

joshuatrio says

This one's easy...

just_adhom_preaching says

Right, imagine how things will be when a REAL pandemic comes along.

even the deniers will be all masked up...

In 'merika, majority rules.
Too bad for the "normal is not working for me" crowd.
it's not all about 'me'...

Onvacation says

Covid's a killer. It took at least a couple thousand before their time. Through government overreaction It also killed the plans and put off the dreams of millions of people.

Stop the masquerade, end the senseless rules, stay home if you are sick, And Wear your fucking mask and hide in your fucking house if you are afraid of getting a cold.

This new normal is not working for me.

Have you tried Whitepages.com ??
Onvacation says

I've lost a lot of friends over the years.

MrEd says

This chart is a pile of shit.

It's not. Look at the dates for them all..... It's an old chart. Regardless, we have 4x's the population from the Spanish flu years. That's the point. On a per capita rate for the entire world this cannot be classified as a pandemic, even today. That's the point.

We need to lose probably 5-10M for this to be a classic small pandemic. Real pandemic per capita would need 100M deaths at least.

Also, Fauci's triumph AIDS is still a top 5 pandemic. Good job...

MrEd says

In 'merika, majority rules.
Too bad for the "normal is not working for me" crowd.
it's not all about 'me'...

Thank God for the Bill of Rights and the electoral college.