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The point is. CA has now (mostly) decriminalized both hetero and homo pedophilia. I stand by my original position.

EBGuy says

The rapist will go to jail.

No, not if the judge decides to rule it "consensual" now.

At 14, I was ready and eager for sex, and able to discern relationships I wanted with no desire for the partner's life to be ruined, and those that were malevolent and would need legal intervention if they came up. Some teens have this level of agency, others don't; therefore allowing a judge's discretion is legally sensible.

The new law appears to give the legal system the tools to lay off the type of cases where the couple would end up married with kids anyway, while having power to intervene with predatory types. A good balance between my hate of pedophiles and hate of zero tolerance rule systems.

Thread title is still annoyingly irrelevant.

Automan Empire says

At 14, I was ready and eager for sex, and able to discern relationships I wanted with no desire for the partner's life to be ruined, and those that were malevolent and would need legal intervention if they came up.

How many kids do you have?

ignoreme says

How many kids do you have?

I've helped raise a couple sets of older stepkids over the decades, plus a niece and nephew. I've actually put in the work of parenting the kids in my care, teaching them healthy relationship concepts and boundaries, guiding and guarding where necessary. I made a lot of open and grotesque pedophiles disappear off Yahoo360 back in the day, linked to young teen stepdaughter's account.

I see the government and legal system as a backstop, not a substitute parent or nanny, for the sexual misadventures of 14+ minors as legislated.

Automan Empire says

I see the government and legal system as a backstop, not a substitute parent or nanny, for the sexual misadventures of minors.

100% agree, but I’d still appreciate the backstop.

I disagree with you about 14 year olds being ready for sex. Sex isn’t about understanding your partners feelings, it’s about being ready to raise a child.

Definitely I am not okay with having my daughters having sex under my roof, don’t care how eager your were at 14.

Automan Empire says

I've helped raise a couple sets of older stepkids over the decades, plus a niece and nephew. I've actually put in the work of parenting the kids in my care, teaching them healthy relationship concepts and boundaries, guiding and guarding where necessary. I made a lot of open and grotesque pedophiles disappear off Yahoo360 back in the day, linked to young teen stepdaughter's account.

If you know anything about parenting you’d know that 14 yo know nothing about anything and can be easily manipulated. Which is why there is no consent before 18.

CA literally now decriminalized pedophilia.

Automan Empire says

and able to discern relationships I wanted with no desire for the partner's life to be ruined

Gonna call absolute BS on this line. Yes, even 10-12 year olds get horny and start "exploring" themselves. Maybe even have sex. A 14 year old simply has no concept of the ramifications that sex can bring. A good friend of mine had a kid at 17. She admits she fucked up and would turn back the clock if she could. I get the 16 year old getting with a 18-19 year old being borderline.

But a 14 year old with a 24 year old is out of bounds. The 14 year old has ZERO clue what is happening and you did too at the time, but for some reason you support it. It's pure manipulation and slightly scary that you think it's okay and makes me question your childhood in all honesty. 14 and 24 ain't normal even if you "think" you could ruin their life. At 24 you have plenty of opportunity to fuck 18-24 year olds. There's no shortage of them.

Fortwaynemobile says

If you know anything about parenting you’d know that 14 yo know nothing about anything and can be easily manipulated.

Even Milo was able to eventually figure this out (see 7:50).
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Patrick says

No, not if the judge decides to rule it "consensual" now.

No, the legislation is ONLY about the sex offender registry. See California bill eliminating sex offender list inequity toward LGBTQ people passes.
SB145 by state Sen. Scott Wiener, D-San Francisco, would remove automatic sex-offender registration for young adults who are convicted of having anal or oral sex with a minor, leaving the decision up to a judge.
You can also read the actual text of SB-145 Sex offenders: registration.
Like I said I'm not happy with the law, but it is only about the sex offender registry. It does not remove criminal punishment for statutory rapists.

WookieMan says

But a 14 year old with a 24 year old is out of bounds.

I consider that an edge case, and I'd expect it to get exponentially harder to meet the criteria for every year of age gap over about 5 in a well functioning system.

I don't see this as a gold rush to pedophilia, but discretion to avoid punishments that don't fit the crime.