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Trump is going to make the Democrats admit that Fauci was full of Shit, a political Trojan horse to bring his house down


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2020 Oct 13, 7:06am   296 views  10 comments

by Tenpoundbass   ➕follow (7)   💰tip   ignore  

Remember Fauci and Birx said 2 million would die if we didn't lock down. 200K would die if we did everything we should .
Trump locked down and we didn't get 2 million dead, but they politicized the 200K dead, and now are trying to say, the lock down was Trump's idea.


Newt Gingrich said Trump saved 2 million lives.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/13/newt-gingrich-trumps-coronavirus-response-saved-2-million-american-lives/

“This is one of the most important questions the American people need to explore and reach a decision about in the next few weeks,” he insists. “The fact is that at a very early date the president was advised by key public health figures that we had to move decisively or over 2.2 million Americans would die.”

“The president did move very decisively but when he did, people on the left — Biden, Pelosi, Harris and others — all attacked him. Some ridiculed him. Because they said he was doing too much too fast,” Gingrich notes, while inserting a series of video clips backing up his assertion.

“So, let’s put this in context. Let’s look at the facts. I think you’ll see how big the difference was between what President Trump did and what his opponents would have done,” he declares, before running through the chronology of the president’s actions to curb the spread of the virus and the resistance he faced from the Left.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/13/donald-trump-challenges-dr-anthony-faucis-accuracy-on-coronavirus-pandemic/

Fauci said in July he did not regret advising against mask in the early days of the coronavirus pandemic, but now believed they were very effective in preventing the spread of the disease.

The president also pointed to a recent recommendation against lockdowns from Dr. David Nabarro, the World Health Organization’s special envoy on coronavirus.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Nabarro said, adding that “by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

“WHO no longer likes Lockdowns – just came out against. Trump was right,” Trump wrote, arguing that the United States lockdowns saved “2,000,000 USA lives!”

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1   WookieMan   2020 Oct 13, 7:24am  

Tenpoundbass says
but they politicized the 200K dead

This is why I'm mainly done with Covid "avoidance" so to speak. IL has something like 4.5% positivity rate for people actually tested. Some of which are false positive. For a virus that maybe 1-3% of people can even catch. And then once you catch it, you have a 99.9% chance of survival under 60. Do people just not do math anymore? Wash their hands in public? This has been morphed into a scary monster virus that theoretically is less lethal than the flu, it just kills unhealthy and really, really old people close to deaths door.
2   clambo   2020 Oct 13, 8:00am  

The “200,000 dead from Corona” is bullshit.
The actual number is 6% of that, maybe fewer. 12,000 people is no big deal, and coincidentally is how many die falling down stairs each year.

Anything that actually caused the death is considered incidental, the death is attributed to Corona anyway.

A young female had a brain aneurysm, died, and they called it “complication from Corona”.
Guys dying of heart attacks who are positive are called a Corona virus death.

It’s bullshit that is being perpetuated by politicians.
3   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 13, 8:23am  

clambo says
It’s bullshit that is being perpetuated by politicians.

Trump is going to make them admit that. Eventually the Democrats will find it politically expedient to put all of the blame on Trump, and say what we've been saying all along.

Yes they are dumb enough to think it will work. They do shit dumber than that all the time.
4   NDrLoR   2020 Oct 13, 8:35am  

clambo says
Anything that actually caused the death is considered incidental, the death is attributed to Corona anyway
There's a Yahoo story about a lady who died from it after testing negative twice--she was 89 for heaven's sake.
5   Shaman   2020 Oct 13, 8:36am  

A friend’s 89 year old aunt died from old age and the doctors marked it down to Covid. Just an anecdote but relevant against people who say this doesn’t happen.
6   WookieMan   2020 Oct 13, 8:47am  

Shaman says
A friend’s 89 year old aunt died from old age and the doctors marked it down to Covid. Just an anecdote but relevant against people who say this doesn’t happen.

Anecdotal information matters though. I despise people that say "it's just anecdotal" so it's not valid. Did it happen or not and is it truthful? If yes, then it matters. Having a doctor and multiple nurses I've met question Covid matters even if anecdotal. The people on the front lines are questioning it that I know. They are literally calling it a nothing burger. Especially with anyone 50 or under. You're far more likely to die in your car or as mentioned falling down the stairs.
7   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 13, 8:59am  

I always found the most wisest and profound statements, was when someone I respected prefaced a remark. By saying "And Anecdotally".

I agree Anecdotes should not be dismissed or diminished. I think people are confusing when someone says. "And now on an unrelated note."
That is not the same sentiment.
8   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 13, 9:04am  

I think Anecdotal's definition, has been skewed. It says having an option not based on a photo, study or scientific facts.

An Anecdote is based on someone's experience. The Anecdote should be taken seriously as fact, based on how trust worthy, or astute the person saying Anecdote.
Otherwise a formed opinion based on personal experience, or observing the progression of the facts.

I don't think Anecdotal is the same as an Assertion, or Assumption.
9   WookieMan   2020 Oct 13, 9:13am  

Tenpoundbass says
I agree Anecdotes should not be dismissed or diminished. I think people are confusing when someone says. "And now on an unrelated note."
That is not the same sentiment.

I think some people just assume it's a precursor to a lie. Like saying "to be honest" type thing. I think that's the realm of anecdotes. But if you're telling the truth, witnessed it, heard it, it matters. It's a way of brushing off something you don't believe, "oh that's just anecdotal." I hate it. It's like, dude my dog dying happened and you're telling me it's anecdotal that dogs die? The dog fucking died dip shit. It happened.

I know we're not supposed to talk about other users, but it's a strategy that iwog would frequently use. Use language and terms in an argument that he wasn't winning. When someone argues about the argument/debate, they've lost at the first word. Mind you he had valid points on a lot of topics, but shit would always devolve into the art of debating and the topic was lost.
10   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 13, 9:19am  

WookieMan says
I hate it. It's like, dude my dog dying happened and you're telling me it's anecdotal that dogs die? The dog fucking died dip shit. It happened.


Back in 2012, when I was describing Obamacare to the letter based on our billing expereince. I was told, I was being Anecdotal. They all said. Obamacare doesn't even start until 2013.

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