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NDrLoR
2020 Oct 22, 2:43pm
NDrLoR
2020 Oct 22, 2:43pm
NuttBoxer says
You need to read the 2019 book The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime, by Gary Brucato, PhD and Michael H. Stone, MD. The authors explain how our society sometime in the middle of the 60's (when I was graduating from college, so I saw it happen) Western--and particularly American--society unwittingly traversed a critical threshold--they use the year 1965 as what they call the fulcrum. They start with the Watts riots of '65, and then proceed to the UT mass shootings of 1966 and the killing of eight nurses in their dorms by Richard Speck. Not mentioned, but indicative of the direction of our culture was the founding in 1966 of the Church of Satan by Anton LeVay. "Thereafter, profound philosophical, cultural and psychological changes within individuals and in the wider population were increasingly reflected in particularly heinous and spectacular crimes. These had previously been virtually nonexistent across the long history of humankind, outside of wartime. Mass killings, school shootings, fetal abduction (pregnant woman killed for her unborn child), serial homicide and rape have all exploded since the 1960's and during the six decades since. While not limited to our country, these acts have been committed disproportionately in the United States and most are committed by males." This nearly 600 page book delves into the reasons for these turn of events and what the prospect is for the future.
1966 was the first full year after Vatican II, which saw the beginning of a decline in Catholic observance that continues to this day. This was also the time when there began a mass exodus from all churches, an exodus that hasn't stopped in the ensuing 55 years. The Baby Boomers were the first generation not to propagate the faiths, in which they were reared, mostly Protestant/Catholic/Jewish, by marrying and raising their children in their own faiths, the main conduit for continuing a faith. Instead, they dropped out, shacked up, had children out of wedlock whom they didn't support, and began joining the various self-help gurus in California, i.e., est, Esalen Institute, primal scream, Scientology, rolfing (golfing spelled with an "r"). And yes, I feel sure many of the serial killers of the 70's were what you would call "nones" today. You think Ted Bundy practiced a faith? John Wayne Gacey? Dean Corll? Isreal Keyes? Randy Woodfield?
it is important to note how dramatically the culture in the West has shifted since the 1950sI know I've referenced this book before, but it is such a perfect parallel to this discussion that I'm mentioning it again. While it is ostensibly about the explosion of serial killings in the 70's and 80's, it also discusses all the other societal breakdowns in the years after 1965 and gives examples for each year between 1965 and 2019:
You need to read the 2019 book The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime, by Gary Brucato, PhD and Michael H. Stone, MD. The authors explain how our society sometime in the middle of the 60's (when I was graduating from college, so I saw it happen) Western--and particularly American--society unwittingly traversed a critical threshold--they use the year 1965 as what they call the fulcrum. They start with the Watts riots of '65, and then proceed to the UT mass shootings of 1966 and the killing of eight nurses in their dorms by Richard Speck. Not mentioned, but indicative of the direction of our culture was the founding in 1966 of the Church of Satan by Anton LeVay. "Thereafter, profound philosophical, cultural and psychological changes within individuals and in the wider population were increasingly reflected in particularly heinous and spectacular crimes. These had previously been virtually nonexistent across the long history of humankind, outside of wartime. Mass killings, school shootings, fetal abduction (pregnant woman killed for her unborn child), serial homicide and rape have all exploded since the 1960's and during the six decades since. While not limited to our country, these acts have been committed disproportionately in the United States and most are committed by males." This nearly 600 page book delves into the reasons for these turn of events and what the prospect is for the future.
1966 was the first full year after Vatican II, which saw the beginning of a decline in Catholic observance that continues to this day. This was also the time when there began a mass exodus from all churches, an exodus that hasn't stopped in the ensuing 55 years. The Baby Boomers were the first generation not to propagate the faiths, in which they were reared, mostly Protestant/Catholic/Jewish, by marrying and raising their children in their own faiths, the main conduit for continuing a faith. Instead, they dropped out, shacked up, had children out of wedlock whom they didn't support, and began joining the various self-help gurus in California, i.e., est, Esalen Institute, primal scream, Scientology, rolfing (golfing spelled with an "r"). And yes, I feel sure many of the serial killers of the 70's were what you would call "nones" today. You think Ted Bundy practiced a faith? John Wayne Gacey? Dean Corll? Isreal Keyes? Randy Woodfield?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Oct 22, 2:52pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Oct 22, 2:52pm
The good news is that it is reversing: Depressed Dialectical Materialist Cultural Marxists don't reproduce, precisely because they hate the mastery of self and heteronormative marriages.
In fact, it was the old Western System of self-mastery, hard-work, and families that kept Depressed people from going apeshit on themselves, others, and society in general.
In order to do this, patriarchy must be restored AND beta males be instructed to be less thirsty for nasty tatted hos. Much of our stupidity is due to the unwillingness of the average male to shunt hobags to the curb without attention or interest. I give Eastern Europe as an example of where all trends should have been for max feminism, but the average male insisted on feminine quality as a basis for attention (ie caring, cooking - working or not working)
In fact, it was the old Western System of self-mastery, hard-work, and families that kept Depressed people from going apeshit on themselves, others, and society in general.
In order to do this, patriarchy must be restored AND beta males be instructed to be less thirsty for nasty tatted hos. Much of our stupidity is due to the unwillingness of the average male to shunt hobags to the curb without attention or interest. I give Eastern Europe as an example of where all trends should have been for max feminism, but the average male insisted on feminine quality as a basis for attention (ie caring, cooking - working or not working)
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Karloff
2020 Oct 22, 6:30pm
Karloff
2020 Oct 22, 6:30pm
Speaking of 1965, another pivotal event was the Hart-Cellar immigration act.
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NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 23, 12:07pm
NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 23, 12:07pm
NDrLoR says
Does he delve into the pharmaceutical industry at all? If I'm not mistaken, the rise of anti-psychotics, and anti-depressants as an industry started around the same time. It's definitely a link in all recent mass shootings in the US.
You need to read the 2019 book The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime, by Gary Brucato, PhD and Michael H. Stone, MD
Does he delve into the pharmaceutical industry at all? If I'm not mistaken, the rise of anti-psychotics, and anti-depressants as an industry started around the same time. It's definitely a link in all recent mass shootings in the US.
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CBOEtrader
2020 Oct 23, 12:20pm
CBOEtrader
2020 Oct 23, 12:20pm
NuttBoxer says
is there causality or just correlation?
every odd, hyperactive kid is put on pills these days. however, those meds are designed to mute the emotional response mechanisms. thus, when most people are angry and think "i could kill him", their emotional response gives them an immediate negative feedback. thus, a normal person never allows their thoughts to wonder past the initial emotional reaction. however, if your emotional response isnt there?... maybe these pill popping kids start to think it may be a good idea.
i dunno.
It's definitely a link in all recent mass shootings in the US.
is there causality or just correlation?
every odd, hyperactive kid is put on pills these days. however, those meds are designed to mute the emotional response mechanisms. thus, when most people are angry and think "i could kill him", their emotional response gives them an immediate negative feedback. thus, a normal person never allows their thoughts to wonder past the initial emotional reaction. however, if your emotional response isnt there?... maybe these pill popping kids start to think it may be a good idea.
i dunno.
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NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 25, 10:41pm
NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 25, 10:41pm
Every mass shooting that's happened recently has the shooter on or just coming off mind altering prescription drugs. I don't believe in that many coincidences.
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Ceffer
2020 Oct 25, 11:11pm
Ceffer
2020 Oct 25, 11:11pm
The whole mind altering drugs for minors thing started with the ritalin for hyperactivity quite a while ago and took off. I have two friends who were unmedicated hyperactive children, and are still to some extent hyperactive as adults, but adaptive and high achieving. However, I wouldn't want to be in their skins.
i know a guy who was a terror to his family as a child, nearly institutionalized, who told me he had been on drug cocktails from early childhood. He subsequently had other addictive problems with narcotics, but overcame them and eventually stopped all of the medications. To talk with him, he comes across as quite 'normal', rational and nice, with a well adjusted attitude and not at all threatening or strange. He told me about a website and I went to it and was shocked.
Basically, the website was for the 'maladjusted and hyperactive' children, now older, who had been medicated from childhood to 'normalize' them. They had page after page of them exchanging lists of multiple drug cocktails of various psychoactive medications, talking about side effects, suggesting different mixes and patterns of usage, what worked better than others etc. etc. like they were exchanging recipes. I think any one pill they were talking about would knock me on my ass if I took it. These guys had been taking them for years, and were terrified that if they didn't have them, they would go off the rails and go crazy and do what not. They were convinced from childhood by the psychologists and authority figures that they were somehow evil and possessed, and that they needed these medicines to keep the demons from coming out again.
I did get the impression that somewhere along the line, they and their authority figures and shrinks lost track completely of what their original 'condition' might have been versus what Alice in Wonderland world they lived in due to all those years of multi drug use. They were stuck and terrified of themselves, and just kept using this stuff to try to stay 'normal'.
i know a guy who was a terror to his family as a child, nearly institutionalized, who told me he had been on drug cocktails from early childhood. He subsequently had other addictive problems with narcotics, but overcame them and eventually stopped all of the medications. To talk with him, he comes across as quite 'normal', rational and nice, with a well adjusted attitude and not at all threatening or strange. He told me about a website and I went to it and was shocked.
Basically, the website was for the 'maladjusted and hyperactive' children, now older, who had been medicated from childhood to 'normalize' them. They had page after page of them exchanging lists of multiple drug cocktails of various psychoactive medications, talking about side effects, suggesting different mixes and patterns of usage, what worked better than others etc. etc. like they were exchanging recipes. I think any one pill they were talking about would knock me on my ass if I took it. These guys had been taking them for years, and were terrified that if they didn't have them, they would go off the rails and go crazy and do what not. They were convinced from childhood by the psychologists and authority figures that they were somehow evil and possessed, and that they needed these medicines to keep the demons from coming out again.
I did get the impression that somewhere along the line, they and their authority figures and shrinks lost track completely of what their original 'condition' might have been versus what Alice in Wonderland world they lived in due to all those years of multi drug use. They were stuck and terrified of themselves, and just kept using this stuff to try to stay 'normal'.
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Patrick
2020 Oct 25, 11:23pm
Patrick
2020 Oct 25, 11:23pm
NuttBoxer says
I think he also gives us the answers right there:
Keep faith in our own culture and institutions.
Work for stability, not radical change.
Deny the supposed "crisis" any importance. It is imaginary, not real.
Refuse to accept "the new normal". It's not normal.
There is also this process identified by a semi-famous KGB agent, Yuri Bezmenov:
Demoralization: This is whereby people are made to lose faith in their own culture and their institutions. Society is made to be something that isn’t worth fighting for.
Destabilization: During this phase, the culture and society itself are made unstable. A situation is created whereby “anything can happen” and people simply cannot rely upon things to be the same from one day to the next.
Crisis: The manufacturing of a large crisis about which “something must be done.”
Normalization: The “new normal.” The new way of doing things is normalized through constant propaganda that this is “just how the world is now.”
I think he also gives us the answers right there:
Keep faith in our own culture and institutions.
Work for stability, not radical change.
Deny the supposed "crisis" any importance. It is imaginary, not real.
Refuse to accept "the new normal". It's not normal.
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NDrLoR
2020 Oct 26, 8:37am
NDrLoR
2020 Oct 26, 8:37am
Nuttboxer says
www.youtube.com/embed/IQPsKvG6WMI
There is also this process identified by a semi-famous KGB agent, Yuri Bezmenov:
www.youtube.com/embed/IQPsKvG6WMI
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NDrLoR
2020 Oct 26, 8:41am
NDrLoR
2020 Oct 26, 8:41am
Karloff says
"As a young politician, Sen. Edward Kennedy helped steer the 1965 immigration law through the Senate. He reflects on the politics that helped push the overhaul through then — and on the current debate over immigration"
Speaking of 1965, another pivotal event was the Hart-Cellar immigration act.It was the darling of Ted Kennedy. He was ashamed of America's favoring Western Europeans from 1924 through the mid-60's, wanted to see more people from loser countries to make them dependent on the government which was the big thing in the mid-60's--the more dependency the better.
"As a young politician, Sen. Edward Kennedy helped steer the 1965 immigration law through the Senate. He reflects on the politics that helped push the overhaul through then — and on the current debate over immigration"
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NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 26, 11:13am
NuttBoxer
2020 Oct 26, 11:13am
Ceffer says
I only know of one person who should be on medication. A friend who's bi-polar. He's stopped taking his meds a couple times and the results have varied from slightly manic, to full blow disaster. I'd still say he should investigate natural alternatives that may one day allow him to slowly go off his meds, but unfortunately he does need them.
i know a guy who was a terror to his family as a child, nearly institutionalized, who told me he had been on drug cocktails from early childhood.
I only know of one person who should be on medication. A friend who's bi-polar. He's stopped taking his meds a couple times and the results have varied from slightly manic, to full blow disaster. I'd still say he should investigate natural alternatives that may one day allow him to slowly go off his meds, but unfortunately he does need them.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-10-14/cultural-marxisms-origins-how-disciples-obscure-italian-linguist-subverted-america
The Weaponization of Critique
The primary weapon of the Cultural Marxists is a constant, neverending critique of Western culture and civilization. It’s not a terrible oversimplification to say that the fundamental premise of the “Critical Theory” arm of Cultural Marxism is “when you think about it, isn’t everything kind of problematic?”
Indeed, there is nothing “deep” about this theoretical tack, it is simply a case of “when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” This rhetorical technique has informed and distorted virtually every aspect of Western culture – moving far beyond academia and infecting the mass culture. Air conditioning is sexist. Lawns are racist and so are single family homes. Not wanting to be intimate with someone who is HIV positive contributes to homophobia and the spread of AIDS. Physical fitness is a fascist impulse and trying to lose weight is a hateful act.
All of these might sound silly and marginal, and in a sense they are. However, it is important to note how dramatically the culture in the West has shifted since the 1950s – and how dramatically it has shifted even in the last ten years, when Barack Obama still opposed gay marriage and no serious person advocated that grown men who “identify as women” should be allowed to share restrooms and locker rooms with pre-pubescent girls. The other important takeaway from this is that the proponents of Cultural Marxism can find a way to tie virtually any topic to some imagined “system of oppression,” then fill in the blanks with the appropriate argument.
In the language of the Cultural Marxists, this is known as analyzing “ruling understandings” or the dominant ideology of a culture. Of course, there is a “dominant ideology” underpinning this method – the notion that every claim or stance requires careful examination from a critical perspective. Every belief held by Western civilization for the last 100, 200, 500, 2,000 years is subject to a critical analysis, the goal of which is to “expose” the belief as nothing more than a weapon designed to subjugate and suppress members of the coalition of victims that Cultural Marxism seeks to assemble in its war against Western civilization.
Far from being a neutral form of analysis, Cultural Marxism starts with the assumption that every aspect of Western civilization is some kind of a conspiracy (conscious or otherwise) to keep a certain group of people in their place. This creates what Victor Davis Hansen has called a “subjective righteousness.” There is no place for individual responsibility for good or for ill. Rather, there is only the analysis of power. Those who are judged to have it, by the priests of Wokeness (effectively a Cultural Marxist framework), can do no right. Those who attack them can do no wrong.
Eternal truths, no matter how self-evident, are not truths at all, but narratives constructed by a ruling elite to perpetuate their own rule. Absolutely nothing is to be spared from the ruthless line of Cultural Marxism and Critical Theory. This leads to an inversion of traditional values, where the values that have served Western civilization for thousands of years are painted as negative features. The male desire to protect women from danger becomes “patriarchy” and “paternalism.” The drive to attain mastery over the self and the environment that almost entirely defines Western culture is repainted as “authoritarian personality.” The normal desire for marriage and children becomes “heteronormativity,” just one option among many and a bad one at that. An appreciation for the philosophical and cultural achievements of Western civilization is “white supremacy,” an arbitrary system with no goal other than to keep other races down.
There is also this process identified by a semi-famous KGB agent, Yuri Bezmenov:
Demoralization: This is whereby people are made to lose faith in their own culture and their institutions. Society is made to be something that isn’t worth fighting for.
Destabilization: During this phase, the culture and society itself are made unstable. A situation is created whereby “anything can happen” and people simply cannot rely upon things to be the same from one day to the next.
Crisis: The manufacturing of a large crisis about which “something must be done.”
Normalization: The “new normal.” The new way of doing things is normalized through constant propaganda that this is “just how the world is now.”
All of these ideas are likely familiar to you. That is because, when considered objectively, Cultural Marxism has been a resounding success in the Western world.