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APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

The lawyer with the BULLET! TITS! bra and leopard sweater is really intense.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

ALL Y(OU CUNTS WILL DIE UNLESS YOU SURRENDER!

BLM did promise to burn down the businesses if we voted not in line with their thinking... so yeah I guess that is true.

Here are the key allegations the lawyers presented:

1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were “null and void,” especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.

2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to “cure” defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.

3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.

4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.

5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being “produced” quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.

6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.

7. There were allegedly “overvotes,” with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.

8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic’s owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)

9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.

Giuliani presented evidence in the form of sworn affidavits, citing two and noting that the campaign had many more from private individuals
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/19/9-key-points-from-trump-campaign-press-conference-on-challenges-to-election-results/

131 in Detroit alone, inc. from pollworkers (not observers) + 100s more in Michigan alone. Signed affidavits, not just statements.

clambo says

The desperate Democrats overdid it this time, this shit stinks too much for the Supreme Court to abide it.

Rule 2! They always overplay their hand.

Onvacation says

Dholliday126 says

That thing loses credibility with him winning CA

Why?

Just because if you openly support Trump in California you will be ostracized and unemployed? Probably beaten? (you've seen the videos) The vocal minority of Karens and other harpies have overwhelmed the public dialog. Add to that a government rotten from the local school board to the dark lord Gavin.

When the indoctrinated white kids come from the burbs and burn down your neighborhood you get pissed.

When your governor tells you you must give up your small business, keep your kids home from school, and you are no longer allowed most of your social pleasures, you ask why?

When one candidate catches the deadly flu that has had your first amendment rights stripped from you and recovers in two days while the other candidate promises to start his presidency with a month of lockdowns and permanent mask...

I'm just using logic, no way CA went deep red...seriously, come on.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

hey how do you guys download a video off youtube? reason i'm asking is because they tend to disappear off internet very fast due to censorship. it really is crazy how fast it happens.

@FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut

Try this: https://youtube-dl.org/

I think it's just a python script

CA is not red on coastal cities. Deep red inland.
Most of the Sikhs in central valley vote republican as they don't associate with culture promoted by leftists.

But Sikhs are also aware of "racist overtones" in republican party. Let us see How Trump assure minorities not to fear from white nationalism.
She is doing good job to assure Sikhs:
https://twitter.com/pnjaban

NoCoupForYou says

clambo says

The desperate Democrats overdid it this time, this shit stinks too much for the Supreme Court to abide it.

Rule 2! They always overplay their hand.

Yeah, and they might get away with it too I'm afraid. I was already told that this is "Russian propaganda". Rudy apparently also works for Kremlin, just like entire GOP and 75 million Americans.

sikhguy says

CA is not red on coastal cities. Deep red inland.
Most of the Sikhs in central valley vote republican as they don't associate with culture promoted by leftists.

But Sikhs are also aware of "racist overtones" in republican party. Let us see How Trump make assure that minorities from fear of white nationalism.

The only racist party is the democrat party. It all they talk about

@sikhguy This is true.

Republicans are especially good at accepting new immigrants who support the Constitution.

Democrats are obsessed with race, and only Democrats are that way.

Patrick says

@sikhguy This is true.

Republicans are especially good at accepting new immigrants who support the Constitution.

Democrats are obsessed with race, and only Democrats are that way.

I really don't like this modern fad on the left. Obsession with race/gender, narcissistic gender pronouns, complete abolition of religion and American culture, forcing people to tip toe around fragile feelings of very sheltered kids. It's just nuts.

Patrick says

@sikhguy This is true.

Republicans are especially good at accepting new immigrants who support the Constitution.

Democrats are obsessed with race, and only Democrats are that way.

Patrick I appreciate what you said, But there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.

@FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
Democrats use race as a weapon. They don't give damn about anyone except themselves.
The religion of "Godless" is most intolerant religion, can't coexist with any other.(Islam to some extent is same)
Every religion teaches some ethics to value human life, There are non in "Godless" book.
Paraphrasing emphasis in realtor language.. It is always control,control,control.

sikhguy says

there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist

There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.

Eric Holder says

sikhguy says

there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist

There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.

I don't deny it. If the fringe becomes mainstream, First to bear the brunt is Sikhs because of our appearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

You may not feel that way I do.

sikhguy says

Eric Holder says

sikhguy says

there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist

There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.

I don't deny it. If the fringe becomes mainstream, First to bear the brunt is Sikhs because of our appearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

You may not feel that way I do.

What any of this has to do with GOP specifically?

Same way what communism has to do with democrats?
silent approval to certain degree.

Dholliday126 says

no way CA went deep red...seriously, come on.

That's how my state of birth seems to me as well.

sikhguy says

Same way what communism has to do with democrats?

Demonrats openly embrace commie ideas. GOP does not openly endorse racism. Big difference.

sikhguy says

Patrick I appreciate what you said, But there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.

And Biden, Byrd, and the Clintons are OK?

If it were up to the Democrats dark skinned people would still be working the fields in chains.

FuckCCP89 says

sikhguy says

Same way what communism has to do with democrats?

Demonrats openly embrace commie ideas. GOP does not openly endorse racism. Big difference.

I can agree with that. But GOP does use dog whistle and if they stop it, All successful people in minorities will rush to them.

sikhguy says

there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist.It is common sense to be afraid of this fringe as a minority.

every party has fringe element that flocks to it. However, if parties are reasonable they put fringe stuff on the leash. Republicans do have their extreme fringes on the leash, they aren't burning America screaming crazy things. But Democrats completely are letting the fringe take over their party, it's where all the insanity is from these days. In the past, both parties always controlled the fringe that they could, and things were stable. But at some point left stopped, in fact they started encouraging it, and a lot has gotten really bad.

That's just what I've seen.

@FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut

In the interest of not going in circles. Let us end with that Republican party continue to do good job keeping racist elements in check. As a Sikh our community have felt genocide in India and hate crimes in US after September 11 due to our appearance.
Ideally there should be two parties. conservatives and liberals with beautiful push and pull to continue creating best outcomes for people economically and culturally while maintaining full freedom.

sikhguy says

Eric Holder says

sikhguy says

there is no denial that there are "white fringe elements" in republican party who are racist

There is no denial there are fringe elements of any skin color in any group of people who a racist, duh.

I don't deny it. If the fringe becomes mainstream, First to bear the brunt is Sikhs because of our appearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

You may not feel that way I do.

Soooooooo, you like diversity or you do not like diversity? You think this will ever change? C'mon man.

@GlocknLoad
white nationalist use race as weapon and so do leftists.
which side are you on?

I am not on either side and Govt has no business beyond safeguarding the well being of public irrespective of diverse looks.
Govt does need to protect from discrimination but not affirmative action.

sikhguy says

But GOP does use dog whistle

This need examples of somebody who's somebody in the GOP using clearly-identifiable "dog whistle".

sikhguy says

I can agree with that. But GOP does use dog whistle and if they stop it, All successful people in minorities will rush to them.

Can you provide examples of these "dog whistles" by Republicans?

I see dog whistles all the time used by Liberal Progressives claiming people of color are too ignorant and incapable of showing ID to vote, too stupid to get jobs or into schools without affirmative action........and generally incapable of taking care of their lives without massive government assistance.

I don't want to go that route. If you feel GOP is perfect and don't support any racism.
Good for me, That's what I would like to see.I am not in making business out of of somebody's racist comments.

If I see any in future will add to this thread.
I want to safety of minorities under law.

sikhguy says

If you feel GOP is perfect and don't support any racism.

If someone claims something the burden of proof is on them.

As I said. I accept this today but will point out tomorrow when it happens. Not interested in going in history.
I hope I see no example in future.

sikhguy says

GOP does use dog whistle

It's kind of funny how the progressives always hear these dog whistles but good old white boys like me don't.

Not just progressives, But everyone does.
Progressives have agenda to hype it, Minorities have a interest to keep majoritarianism under check.

sikhguy says

Minorities have a interest to keep majoritarianism under check.

AKA subvert democracy.

(Whenever I say that, people get upset. Minorities are protected by legal equality under the law. They have NO right to subvert a majority vote, or they're behaving oligarchical)

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

sikhguy says

@GlocknLoad
white nationalist use race as weapon and so do leftists.
which side are you on?

I am not on either side and Govt has no business beyond safeguarding the well being of public irrespective of diverse looks.
Govt does need to protect from discrimination but not affirmative action.

My point is, diversity is not a strength. Racism will always be there and is why it is used against the people. You cannot deny the democrats use racism.

As I told Sikh community endured genocide in India and racism/harassment in US after September 11.
Is it too much to ask for safety and protection under law?

I loved the part during Q&A when someone asked Rudy if Biden was part of the conspiracy, or was aware of it.

Rudy said (paraphrasing) “I don’t know what Joe Biden is aware of, at any time.”

He didn’t say directly that Biden had dementia, but it was implied.

sikhguy says

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

So trying to answer this in a compromise way. No matter where you go, as a foreigner with foreign looks you will be an outsider to many, but not all. Some may even be intrigued (e.g. womynx). That's innate and normal. Go and live in Japan as a Sikh or a White guy and you will never fit in with the masses, just with a smaller group of select people. I agree that every citizen should be treated the same under law with the same protections, but that does not include special privileges or protections. Also the majority cannot make laws that violate those principles in the constitution, but everything else they can regulate.

mell says

sikhguy says

That's why we have constitution and states with low population still can representation.
Majoritarianism is bullying by majority.
Do you support popular vote for president? Is not having it is also subversion?

So trying to answer this in a compromise way. No matter where you go, as a foreigner with foreign looks you will be an outsider to many, but not all. Some may even be intrigued (e.g. womynx). That's innate and normal
Go and live in Japan as a Sikh or a White guy and you will never fit in with the masses, just with a smaller group of select people. I agree that every citizen should be treated the same under law with the same protections, but that does not include special privileges or protections. Also the majority cannot make laws that violate those principles in the constitution, but everything else they can regulate.

I asked for nothing beyond safety and equality under law.

Giuliani dropped the MI lawsuits when they went into non-certified status. That points to a House vote strategy.