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GameStop shares are jumping again, but short sellers aren’t backing down


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2021 Jan 26, 6:54am   18,124 views  215 comments

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/gamestop-shares-are-jumping-again-but-short-sellers-arent-backing-down.html

GameStop’s short interest stands steadily at 139%, unchanged from a week

Interesting read on how a messageboard found a stock shorted at > 100% of the stock, so they decided to collectively buy the stock, hoping to make money off a short squeeze.

IMO, gambling, not investing, but I should add it to my watch list to see what happens.

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111   Patrick   2021 Jan 28, 7:56pm  

This site just popped up:

https://wsbets.win/
112   Cash   2021 Jan 28, 8:03pm  

I will tell you this, once done and said crypto is going to be the recipient of mass amounts of this fall-out $$$$$$$
mark my words. Unlike the creepy old people and their old antiquated love of their paper money they love technology and
adapt like babies to candy and they will really be drawn to decentralization like the massive and growing defi crypto market....
Watch and be amazed at what happens over the next few years...
113   Misc   2021 Jan 28, 8:14pm  

Cash says
I will tell you this, once done and said crypto is going to be the recipient of mass amounts of this fall-out $$$$$$$
mark my words. Unlike the creepy old people and their old antiquated love of their paper money they love technology and
adapt like babies to candy and they will really be draw to decentralization like the massive and growing defi crypto market....
Watch and be amazed at what happens over the next few years...


Very few people take physical possession of crypto assets. Most just leave their holdings at the exchanges. There are no regulations concerning crypto. Therefore, the exchanges can loan crypto out just like the banks did with gold back in the day. Yes, crypto has been financialized. There is no set number of Bitcoin. That is a fiction.

Back in the day, with gold, eventually people would show up wanting physical possession of the gold (this will happen with Bitcoin some day). Back in the day bankers would get hung for not having the gold. With Bitcoin, there is a mysterious cyber-hack... AND IT'S GONE
114   mell   2021 Jan 28, 9:02pm  

Patrick says
Me too. I'm going to try to buy GME via ETrade and completely close my account if they don't let me.


Looks like Schwab/TDA only increased margin requirements and restricted shorting and naked options. But you can freely buy and sell GME so far.
115   clambo   2021 Jan 28, 9:07pm  

I’m going to buy some GME tomorrow morning, Friday 1/29

I have a Vanguard brokerage account and I can make free trades, even by telephone.

I’m tempted to buy a lot of shares, but I know my inner risk aversion won’t let me.
116   Misc   2021 Jan 28, 9:21pm  

The Hedge funds closed their short positions today (with a little help from forced sells). There is no Wall Street types that are going to lose money by retail customers raising the price anymore. The brokerage firms are back to supplying the retail customers with the ammo to shoot the shit out of each other.

The gambit of taking physical possession of silver is more promising, but securing delivery ain't gonna be easy. Everyone knows that non-physical possession is faked.
117   Cash   2021 Jan 28, 10:04pm  

personal
118   MisdemeanorRebel   2021 Jan 28, 10:59pm  

Okay, what do y'all think tomorrow will be like:

1. More mysterious buying freezes (but not mandatory short margin cover demands)
2. Total freeze in Gamestop by regulators/exchange.
3. Something else.
119   Patrick   2021 Jan 28, 11:12pm  

Misc says
The Hedge funds closed their short positions today (with a little help from forced sells).


How do you know for sure though?
120   Patrick   2021 Jan 28, 11:14pm  

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-28/cohen-sundheim-lose-billions-to-reddit-traders-running-amok

Hedge-Fund Titans Lose Billions to Reddit Traders Running Amok

Driven by the frenzied trading in GameStop Corp. and other stocks that hedge funds have bet against, the losses suffered over the past few days would rank among the worst in some of these money managers’ storied careers. Cohen’s Point72 Asset Management declined 10% to 15% so far this month, while Sundheim’s D1 Capital Partners, one of last year’s top-performing funds, is down about 20%. Melvin Capital, Plotkin’s firm, had lost 30% through Friday.
121   Misc   2021 Jan 28, 11:24pm  

Cash says
Misc says
There is no set number of Bitcoin. That is a fiction.

Prove it, take your straw hat off and prove it.... you are sounding as ignorant as the other shit mutts who think they know something about crypto...


Coinbase alone has over 43 million members. It is adding over 1 million members per month. Supposedly just recently institutional investors are going into crypto in a big way. There are supposedly about 1000 Bitcoin Whales that control about 40% of all Bitcoin. E Toro has about 17 million users. There are about 19 million Bitcoins in existence now. For coins not in the hands of "Whales", that leaves about 11.4 million bitcoins. Based on just the number of members of these two firms, it would leave each member with a holding of .19 bitcoin. This is only for two firms. There are many firms in China, Japan, India and the rest of the world that have millions of customers themselves. Then there are nationstates such as Iran and North Korea. Bitcoin is not a novel investment it is very widely held. The math based on the number of "marks" does not add up, the exchanges are playing games.

E Toro has a promotion where for new members who go $5000 into crypto they give $500 in crypto. If they get 1 million new members per month, that would be an outflow of $500 million per month just to attract new "marks". Unlikely they make this off trading revenue. It is more likely that this $500 crypto costs them nothing or next to nothing. It reeks of a ponzi scheme.
122   Cash   2021 Jan 28, 11:28pm  

@Misc.

Good try lmfao Its a open and public ledger go back to your rabbit hole...
123   Misc   2021 Jan 28, 11:30pm  

Cash says
@Misc.

Good try lmfao Its a open and public ledger go back to your rabbit hole...


Sorry, most of the coins are held in accounts at the exchanges, not in personal Bitcoin wallets. Peddle ponzi schemes elsewhere
125   Booger   2021 Jan 29, 3:55am  

$379.00 +$185.40 (95.76%)
Before hours: 6:54AM
126   zzyzzx   2021 Jan 29, 6:38am  

https://summit.news/2021/01/29/facebook-bans-robinhood-stock-traders-group-with-157000-members/

Facebook Bans ‘Robinhood Stock Traders Group’ With 157,000 Members
127   zzyzzx   2021 Jan 29, 6:40am  

https://politicrossing.com/robinhood-tries-to-cover-its-hiney-with-letter-to-account-holders-and-fails/

It’s been a tough day, and we’re grateful to you for being a Robinhood customer. In light of the extraordinary market conditions this week, we temporarily limited buying for certain securities this morning. Starting tomorrow, we plan to allow limited buys of these securities. We’ll continue to monitor the situation and may make adjustments as needed.

This was a temporary decision made to best continue serving you, and was not an easy one to make. We know it’s led to frustration and confusion, and wanted to provide some clarity.

As a brokerage firm, we have many financial requirements, including SEC net capital obligations and clearinghouse deposits. Some of these requirements fluctuate based on volatility in the markets and can be substantial in the current environment. These requirements exist to protect investors and the markets and we take our responsibilities to comply with them seriously, including through the measures we have taken today.

To be clear, this decision was not made on the direction of any market maker we route to or other market participants.

The past year in particular has shown us that the financial markets are for everyone—not just institutional investors and hedge funds. We’ve seen a new generation enter the market, and they’re sparking conversations about what it means to be an investor. We stand in support of you, our customers. Democratizing finance for all means giving more people access, not less.

We’ll keep monitoring market conditions and will update this Help Center article with the latest changes. We also published a blog post regarding today’s events.

Thank you again for being a Robinhood customer. We’re so grateful for your support.

Sincerely,
The Robinhood Team

Let’s just take a look through this and ask some questions:

“It’s been a tough day” – Boy I bet it has, but what about the small investors – playing well within the rules – who you screwed?

“We temporarily limited buying for certain securities this morning” – Because, well, we had overlords to protect. Hope you’re okay with that.

“Starting tomorrow, we plan to allow limited buys of these securities. We’ll continue to monitor the situation and may make adjustments as needed.” – play nice kids and give some of the money back to the rich kids, and we will let you play again.

“To be clear, this decision was not made on the direction of any market maker we route to or other market participants.” – Uh-huh…

“The past year in particular has shown us that the financial markets are for everyone—not just institutional investors and hedge funds” – except when push comes to shove and the little guy starts winning. Then we step in.

“We stand in support of you, our customers” – except when we don’t.

“Thank you again for being a Robinhood customer. We’re so grateful for your support.” – Hey, where did you go? Hello? Are you still there?
128   Onvacation   2021 Jan 29, 7:34am  

Cash says
Prove it, take your straw hat off and prove it.... you are sounding as ignorant as the other shit mutts who think they know something about crypto...

The scheme was made with artificial scarcity. But what's going to stop an exchange from SAYING you own bitcoin after all they all look similiar.
D5F783A427G749D3C56E5832F7C69BA3

What's in your wallet?

And what's a "shit mutt".
129   Onvacation   2021 Jan 29, 7:36am  

Cash says
Good try lmfao Its a open and public ledger

AND no one can track you!
130   Cash   2021 Jan 29, 8:06am  

NEW ATH on it's way!!! #HedgefundApocalypse on it's way can't put it back in the box....
Your boy Biden and the crime family gang may try lmao
131   Cash   2021 Jan 29, 8:14am  

This dude is a scum bag always has been, this short squeeze has reformed him lol
Citron to stop publishing short-selling research, says Left
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/citron-to-stop-publishing-shortselling-research-says-left-2403479
132   Patrick   2021 Jan 29, 8:19am  

I bought 3 shares of GME at @ $329.72/share in my ETrade account just to prove that I can.

OK, I won't close my ETrade account just yet.
133   NDrLoR   2021 Jan 29, 8:27am  

Cash says
says Left
Don't you just love that name?!
134   Patrick   2021 Jan 29, 8:30am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/reddit-user-explains-short-seller-182124435.html

The point at which it started to become a real middle finger to the establishment, I believe it was when the finan-- when the press started covering it/them in a negative manner, when brokerages decided-- that have ownership in the companies that shorted the stock, by the way-- decided, we're going to stop trading on GME. We're not going to allow you to buy anymore because it's in our financial best interest that you not be able to do that.

That's when it started to become a full-blown war, in a sense, I think, between people who are incredibly, incredibly aggravated at a financial sector that appears to always win while normal people lose. There's a lot of aggravation over what happened in 2007 and 2008. There's a lot of underlying resentment for these things that have not necessarily been addressed. And what they're doing is, this is a way to beat them at their own game using their own greed against them. That is what's happening. And I think that's a big part of the motivation.


Nice explanation.
135   Cash   2021 Jan 29, 8:34am  

Patrick says
The point at which it started to become a real middle finger to the establishment, I believe it was when the finan-- when the press started covering it/them in a negative manner, when brokerages decided-- that have ownership in the companies that shorted the stock, by the way-- decided, we're going to stop trading on GME. We're not going to allow you to buy anymore because it's in our financial best interest that you not be able to do that.


I think a big part of this is the clearing houses will not have the shares to meet "contractual agreements" when EOD/EOW is at their door...
136   Patrick   2021 Jan 29, 8:39am  



From the Babylon Bee of course.
137   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Jan 29, 8:43am  

Cash says
I think a big part of this is the clearing houses will not have the shares to meet "contractual agreements" when EOD/EOW is at their door...


Just saw that majority of the clearing is done by a single house, guess who the president of the company is? Name ends in "child", not Julia.
138   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Jan 29, 8:46am  

Misc says
The Hedge funds closed their short positions today (with a little help from forced sells). There is no Wall Street types that are going to lose money by retail customers raising the price anymore. The brokerage firms are back to supplying the retail customers with the ammo to shoot the shit out of each other.

The gambit of taking physical possession of silver is more promising, but securing delivery ain't gonna be easy. Everyone knows that non-physical possession is faked.


From what I've been seeing at zerohedge, the real fallout from the squeeze hasn't even started yet.

On physical coin, make sure you're buying from a reputable dealer. I can tell you about a month ago delivery started stretching out again. Believe it's 4 weeks right now.
139   Patrick   2021 Jan 29, 8:47am  

NuttBoxer says
Cash says
I think a big part of this is the clearing houses will not have the shares to meet "contractual agreements" when EOD/EOW is at their door...


Just saw that majority of the clearing is done by a single house, guess who the president of the company is? Name ends in "child", not Julia.


Believable. What source is that from?
140   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Jan 29, 9:02am  

Patrick says
Believable. What source is that from?


r/conspiracy(back up), but also confirmed with a quick google search before posting:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rothschild+apex&ia=web
https://investorjunkie.com/stock-brokers/broker-clearing-firms/
141   EBGuy   2021 Jan 29, 1:25pm  

clambo says
I have a Vanguard brokerage account and I can make free trades, even by telephone

Interesting that one of the few companies allowing trades of the highly shorted stocks yesterday was Vanguard. Perhaps because they are customer owned.
We don't need to worry about our stock price or generating profit for private owners. Our 30 million investors own the funds that own the company.
And their mission is
To take a stand for all investors, to treat them fairly, and to give them the best chance for investment success.
142   EBGuy   2021 Jan 29, 1:43pm  

Short-seller Andrew Left, whose company Citron was one of the hedge funds to spark this week's battle with small-time traders over GameStop Corp, said in a YouTube video on Friday that his company would no longer publish short-selling research.
I couldn't find anything on short interest in certain companies on Fidelity. Do any other brokerages offer this info?
143   Booger   2021 Jan 29, 2:06pm  

LOL, shorts can't even maintain a rigged lower price in afterhours trading when the longs aren't even in the game.
144   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 29, 2:26pm  

EBGuy says
his company would no longer publish short-selling research.


... thus giving up one of the major handles they used to manipulate the market with, lol.
145   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 29, 2:27pm  

EBGuy says
Interesting that one of the few companies allowing trades of the highly shorted stocks yesterday was Vanguard. Perhaps because they are customer owned.
We don't need to worry about our stock price or generating profit for private owners. Our 30 million investors own the funds that own the company.
And their mission is
To take a stand for all investors, to treat them fairly, and to give them the best chance for investment success.


Bye-bye, ETrade, hello Vanguard.
146   Booger   2021 Jan 29, 2:45pm  

https://nypost.com/2021/01/28/fifth-grader-makes-3200-off-gamestop-shares-bought-in-2019/
Texas fifth-grader makes $3,200 off GameStop shares bought for $6 in 2019
147   clambo   2021 Jan 29, 3:21pm  

EBguy,
Yes Vanguard has a structure like a co-op bank, as opposed to Fidelity (privately owned) or T. Rowe Price (public corporation).
I've been with them since 1992, and have been happy.
At the same time I invested at T. Rowe Price, so I have too many mutual funds.
I have a Fidelity account also; I bought a Health Savings Account to lower my Obama care tax bite, I invested for capital appreciation, it's like an extra IRA.
I told my brother to buy Roku when they started selling stock, now he asks me for other tips.
I don't have any but yesterday I told him to get some Gamestop. He didn't act quickly so he didn't make the trade probably.
I love that some guys are making money at the expense of hedge fund greed.
149   Shaman   2021 Jan 29, 3:27pm  

This really is the Revolution.
Hitting the oligarchs in the only place they can ever really be hurt: money and class.
150   Ceffer   2021 Jan 29, 5:46pm  

My portfolios dropped two Hummers from the fleet because of all of this.

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