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https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/7157-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-covid-19-88-dead-cdc_3789469.html

7,157 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Contracted COVID-19, 88 Dead: CDC

Patrick says

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/7157-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-covid-19-88-dead-cdc_3789469.html

7,157 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Contracted COVID-19, 88 Dead: CDC

Wait that would mean over 1% mortality for those vaccinated? WTF

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

13 months ago we were told that 2,000,000 people were going to die of the Wuhan. If we did not lock down the country they would all die at once and the hospitals would be overwhelmed. TWO MILLION WERE GOING TO DIE!!!

It did not happen.

The lock down happened dude, try again.

Check the graph an understand what "flatten the curve means.
Onvacation says

They claimed 2,000,000 were GOING TO DIE!

They were wrong and the lockdown and masking are political theatre.

The whole pandemic is a scam to control people. A lot of people are falling for it.

Get your jab, wear your mask, and hide in your attic if you have comorbidities and are afraid. Let the rest of us live with liberty and freedom

It's the American way.

Lockdowns did approximately nothing except destroy whole economies, put millions out of work, and bankrupt small businesses so that large corporations could take over.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/stats-hold-a-surprise-lockdowns-may-have-had-little-effect-on-covid-19-spread/

https://nypost.com/2020/09/02/numbers-show-lockdowns-didnt-help-contain-covid-19-opening-up-didnt-boost-it/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11687699/lockdowns-difference-coronavirus-destroyed-livelihoods-jp-morgan/

Most natural phenomena move in waves.

it would very weird and unnatural if the spread were entirely uniform.

Of course, when somebody says: 'fully vaccinated', they don't know if they have been conferred any immunity at all, because they are an experiment.

What they are saying is: "I got fooled by the same people that have been lying to me about the entire Covid hysteria for over a year AGAIN to take these experimental jabs, under the idea that, in spite of EVERYTHING they have said being false, I will assume that they are now telling the truth that these experimental jabs will only be good for me, will confer complete immunity, and will restore my life to what it was before the shit hit the fan with all my freedoms, no mask, no travel restrictions, no etc. etc. etc., because now they are so trustworthy."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Anyway, you can't determine if anybody is 'fully vaccinated' at this point. It is an a priori assertion fallacy to say so. You could only say 'provisionally vaccinated until further testing and information is available from the gullible corpse ahem!! er, patient."

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ThreeBays says

Try again.

Nah, if you want to be willfully ignorant, no one can stop you.

The Wuhan is a cold. Perhaps laboratory created and highly contagious, but still a cold. A healthy immune system will protect you from a cold better than jabbing the world with an experimental biologic agent.

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Patrick says

it would very weird and unnatural if the spread were entirely uniform.

And the 1918 Spanish flu was pretty much burned out in 13 months.

Onvacation says

and highly contagious

I generally agree with your comments, but it's not highly contagious. I'm selectively quoting this snippet just because the narrative is that it is highly contagious. And I'm pretty sure you'll agree with what I'm about to say.

It's not. Of the few that get tested here in IL, the positivity rate currently I believe is just under 4%. That means 4 in 100 come out positive (I know everyone knows this, sometimes helps to show numbers instead of percentage). Let's say my core group of friends is 20 people. Hang out at least once a month. 4 of those people have gotten a test in the last year. This is closely my real world, could be off by a test or two.

So out of those 20 people, there's a 4% chance one of my friends would test positive for covid. Not even one whole person just being positive. The solution? Shut down the planet. There's almost no chance they'd even test positive. AND the other layer is of those 3 close friends that have gotten it, they didn't even notice. Nothing. They just tested positive, which could have been a false positive. Who the fuck knows?

I'm just sick of the narrative from covid believers (not you OV) that this is deadly. The data is there. Lying by the government and media is obvious as shit but people soak this fucking shit up. It's nauseating at this point. Scary how dumb people are that basic math escapes them. Legitimate covid deaths are wiping out a whopping 0.01% of the population that is already half dead and unhealthy.

This is a fucking joke. Sorry for the usual rant. I'm just done seeing news clips of 10 people getting poked in a minute and the constant fear mongering with no sign of intelligence in the viewership.

I fear we are on the edge of a Chinese like social control system. It will start with "vaccine passports". It has already started with UC and CSU requiring students to provide proof of vaccination to get their "education".

ThreeBays says

These were debunked long ago... do we need to dig up the threads?

That's just completely false.

Lockdowns have had no beneficial effect whatsoever anywhere, at any time.

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/506515-the-truth-about-lockdowns

Onvacation says

I fear we are on the edge of a Chinese like social control system. It will start with "vaccine passports". It has already started with UC and CSU requiring students to provide proof of vaccination to get their "education".

If you have a computer and a printer, you have proof of vaccination.

Onvacation says

I fear we are on the edge of a Chinese like social control system

The Chinese Cultural Revolution lasted only ten years, resulted in thousands of deaths and ceased only with Mao's death. I think his wife and her Gang of Four were ultimately executed. Our's seems open-ended with no end in sight. Trump was the last bastion against it and the schools are already gone. The Cultural Revolution used people as young as 16, indoctrinated to the hilt who would kill their parents and elders.

https://reclaimthenet.org/fact-check-financial-ties-johnson-and-johnson/

Representative Thomas Massie has raised questions about the financial relationship between a common online fact checker and Johnson and Johnson – a regular subject in its fact-checks, particularly where it relates to J&J’s COVID-19 vaccine.

A Factcheck.org project addressing “misconceptions” about COVID-19 and vaccines is funded by an organization that has more than 15% of its assets in Johnson & Johnson stock, Massie pointed out.

The significant amount of stock in a company that is producing a COVID-19 vaccine would make some question if the project is really an unbiased source of COVID-19 information.

ThreeBays says

My zip code has detected cases in like 1 in 30 residents, but less affluent zip-codes have a lot more.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. The vast majority of people don't get tested. So you take say a 40% sample group of the total population and 4% of them test positive. And from that 4% "maybe" 1% die based on the demographics. That's a massively low risk. I'm not saying you cannot die from it. Almost everyone on the planet to a 0.05% won't die from covid.

If we're talking dying "with" covid, then that's the general numbers most people cite. In most those cases they didn't die because of covid.

I have to believe that giving tens of thousands of dollars to hospitals simply to classify cases as "dying of" Wuhan Virus had a big impact on the numbers.

Patrick says

I have to believe that giving tens of thousands of dollars to hospitals simply to classify cases as "dying of" Wuhan Virus had a big impact on the numbers.

@Patrick Indeed - you may want to read this:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242187

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If you think they won't simply deny care and kill you you're wrong. They will. It's proved they will. This is not some conspiracy theory, it's fact. We know it's fact because they've been doing it for the last year and slaughtered over 400,000 of said Americans.

Do you know why there are a whole bunch of dead people allegedly from "The Coof" over the last year?

Because the government paid them a bonus for each toe tag and an even bigger one if they used a pointedly-useless ventilator, while at the same time setting "corporate standards" that inexpensive, known safe and likely-effective drugs, known by summer, were not to be used and thus said old people will die and stop consuming Medicare funds.

Don't think so?

Then explain why those with serious and progressive lung diseases, COPD and Emphysema to name two, had fewer deaths in 2020 than 2019 despite a raging respiratory infection pandemic!

I'll explain it again as I did the other day: Virtually every one of those people was already on one of those safe, reasonably inexpensive and now known effective drugs -- inhaled steroids. They couldn't cut those drugs off for those people without it being obvious that they were murdering people but they refused to hand them out to everyone who got infected even though they knew they worked as they had the data and intentionally disregarded it. There are approximately 30 million such Americans and they should have dropped like flies -- they did not.

Never mind that most of the people with COPD and Emphysema are older and generally quite-morbid, so CMS (Medicare) has extensive data on every single one of them and their medical charts; is it really very hard to run a few SQL queries? Obviously, no. They knew, they didn't give a crap and the more old people who die due to intentional refusal to treat the less money the government spends.

What did you say the average age of a Covid-19 death was in the US again?

Hint: 80% of all people who died "of" Covid-19 thus far in the US were on Medicare.

How do you solve the problem when a program is going broke? Kill the recipients
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Patrick says

I have to believe that giving tens of thousands of dollars to hospitals simply to classify cases as "dying of" Wuhan Virus had a big impact on the numbers.

"dying of" is a euphemism for choking them with a ventilator so the hospital can collect a bounty.

My brother in law is flying down to San Diego to say goodbye to his friend. They’re pulling the plug soon. No brain activity and massive damage to organs. Shouldn’t have taken the vax.

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontline-news/16-year-old-boy-undergoes-emergency-clot-removal-surgery-after-vaccination-expert-unequivocally-a-side-effect-of-the-vaccine

AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are apparently not the only COVID-19 pharmaceutical products found to cause hypercoagulability: A 16-year-old boy in Israel developed hypercoagulability and had to undergo emergency clot removal surgery after receiving the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

The Wall Street Journal last week reported that Johnson & Johnson privately reached out to COVID-19 vaccine rivals to ask them to join an effort to study the risks of blood clots and speak with one voice about safety, but Pfizer and Moderna "declined".

Health Communication Lecturer at IDC Herzliya International School Dr. Yaffa Shir Raz responded to the incident, saying: "Think hard before you offer up your kids."

https://babylonbee.com/news/johnson-and-johnson-rolls-out-new-no-more-clots-vaccine

Shaman says

My brother in law is flying down to San Diego to say goodbye to his friend. They’re pulling the plug soon. No brain activity and massive damage to organs. Shouldn’t have taken the vax.

I don't think anyone should take it, but also not my place to stop them. The couple we'll travel with and I just played golf with the husband yesterday are not themselves. It's visible and obvious. They say they feel fine. In my head all I say is you don't look fine. First round of the year for him, but he played awful. 20-30 stroke difference.

They're going to Hawaii in early June. Even vaccinated they still have to get tested to get on the island. AND I guess to island hop easier, they need to get tested there (didn't fact check this). I'll continue to choose to take tests versus vaccination. I won't even take century old pain relievers, because we know they destroy your liver. I'm not taking 4-5 month old injections that I really don't know the end goal of what it does. Covid won't kill me. If it does, oh well.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/michigan-woman-died-of-complications-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine-family_3804048.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

A Michigan family claims that their loved one died of complications after receiving the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine and that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is investigating.

The family of Anne VanGeest, 35, said she died on April 19 at Mercy Health Saint Mary’s in Grand Rapids.