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ThreeBays says

Then what he did was get ahead of his research to claim COVID was overblown

The Wuhan was overblown. On March 13 2020 we were told that we...

I just realized I have much better things to do than argue with a troll.

Onvacation says

What the fuck is wrong with these people trying to get every man, woman, and child to take a jab of an experimental biologic agent that at best will make our symptoms "not as bad" if we catch a cold that most "sufferers" don't even know they have " a case" until they take a test?

Just a little over a hundred years ago they would have charged you a buck and bled you into a bucket with the same hubristic confidence. And called it science.

Onvacation says

If you want your shot take your shot. Just because you volunteered to be part of this vast experiment does not mean everyone has to go along with you.

If you are afraid of covid and believe that vaccine helps, take a shot. This will (allegedly) protect you from covid and you should not be in danger from unvaxxed masses. By the same logic, you should have no power to force anyone else than you to vaccinate - if vaccine works, it protects you and if someone wants to get covid and die, it is none of your damned business.

ThreeBays says

Vaccination is the route because we're able to conduct the science to estimate how protected people are with N doses, and it's scalable.

I prefer the natural route. Eat right, get exercise, and don’t introduce too many toxins to your system. Also don’t be morbidly obese. If you can’t manage these basics, Mother Nature will weed your ass out one way or another. Maybe you’ll miss Covid but die of a heart attack or the effects of diabetes or cancer or whatever. There are tens of thousands of diseases that will pick off the unhealthy. Covid is just one of those. Why all the concern?

ThreeBays says

People underestimating risk to themselves is also a fact

I don't know, I don't have too much trouble cyphering out what a 1 in 400 fatality rate means to me.
Among the minority of the population that contracts the virus.
And then accounting for my general good health and normal BMI.
I feel like I have a pretty good handle on it.

ThreeBays says

Did you know the hazard ratio for being male is greater than being obese class 2?

True. Being male is a hazard for Covid. Has something to do with the ACE2 receptors and testosterone. Having male pattern baldness increases that risk by another doubling. But it’s all just a risk. I have taken far greater risks for my entire life and nothing has punched my ticket yet. My job is also inherently risky, and driving on the freeway is also risky. Risk management is what is the issue. Are you choosing the proper path via risk management? Or is the risk mitigation you’re pursuing exposing you to greater risk than you’re trying to avoid?
I feel like the vaccine is marginally more risky (with long term effects completely unknown) than the risk of contracting Covid in my risk category. The long term effects being totally unknown is the deciding factor for me.

ThreeBays says

People underestimating risk to themselves is also a fact

It seems to me that humans must have evolved to be able to very accurately evaluate the risks to them. How could it be otherwise?
Maybe they discount risk somewhat, associated with testosterone no doubt, in order to go ahead and get some shit done.
When I look around me, not knowing one person that has had a bad, let alone fatal, time with this bug, I just don’t see much risk. I think our perception of hazard has been created solely by a media that has been shown to be biased 97% to negative Covid coverage.

How the Hell do the Scientism Worshiping Vaccine Crusaders just discount Pfizers criminal history?

Robert Sproul says

How the Hell do the Scientism Worshiping Vaccine Crusaders just discount Pfizers criminal history?

Mainstream media didn't tell them about this.

Immediate Use of Ivermectin Medicine Globally Can End COVID-19 Pandemic: Scientists
https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2021-05-08-use-of-ivermectin-medicine-globally-can-end-covid-19-pandemic

That's right folks, science.

https://en-volve.com/2021/05/08/57-top-scientists-and-doctors-release-shocking-study-on-covid-vaccines-and-demand-immediate-stop-to-all-vaccinations/

https://pandemic.solari.com/form-for-students-attending-colleges-or-universities-requiring-covid-19-injections/

Bombshell Salk Institute science paper reveals the covid spike protein is what’s causing deadly blood clots… and it’s in all the covid vaccines (by design)

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html#

https://archive.ph/BoH9O

Look, I’m safe’: New wristband broadcasts COVID vaccination status to make others feel better

The fact that there is so much censorship about vaccine adverse actions implies that the side affects are really bad.

ThreeBays says

You really have to ask yourself, Why does the government want every man, woman, and child to get injected with an experimental biologic agent for a cold that is asymptomatic or has minor symptoms for most? AND they are trying to pass it off as a "safe and effective vaccine" when it has caused many deaths and injuries, does not confer immunity, and will not stop you from spreading the disease.

Something nefarious is going on above and beyond all the nefarious stuff that is going on all the time.

The opposite of everything you wrote is true

OK.
So you don't think the government wants to inject everyone with the experimental biologic agent? Who do they want to Jab?

Do you think the jab confers immunity?

What do you mean when you say,

ThreeBays says

The opposite of everything you wrote is true

Not expecting cogent answers.

https://dailystormer.su/actress-tawny-kitaen-dies-randomly-at-59-after-tweeting-about-her-excitement-to-get-vaxxed

A SAMPLING OF VAXTIMS

Of course, "They were going to die any way!"

Onvacation says

Of course, "They were going to die any way!"

The phrase we never hear wrt "covid victims".

Onvacation says

A SAMPLING OF VAXTIMS

That haunting tune, Clair de Lune, is from a movie but I can't think of its title.

Gates, Klaus, Charles and Warren: "It's not killing them fast enough! More spike proteins! They CAN'T outbreed our vaccines!"

Booger says

They look fugly in both pics, imo.

Free beer!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-jersey-covid-vaccine-beer-shot/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italy-covid-vaccine-woman-six-doses-distracted-nurse-pfizer-shot-tuscany/

Distracted nurse gives woman 6 doses of COVID vaccine in a single shot

Booger says

Free beer!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-jersey-covid-vaccine-beer-shot/

Who said forging a vax card was not worth it?

JAB LAUNCH VS AVERAGE DEATH PER MILLION PEOPLE

I have been hearing about a lot of grandparents dying lately.

Maybe Social Security won't become insolvent after all.

Vaxxed!

https://spectator.us/topic/mystery-natural-immunity-covid-vaccines-cdc/

There is a massive lack of honesty about what’s fact and what’s policy in public health

The Seychelles has become a place to watch. Known as the world’s most vaccinated nation, ahead of even Israel, a third wave of COVID is hitting the archipelago despite the fact that over 60 percent of its population has been fully vaccinated — and nearly 70 percent have received at least one shot. In April the Seychelles was hopeful it was soon to reach herd immunity. But now 456 new cases reported over three days (the population is approximately 98,000) has cooled optimism there — especially since a third of the new cases were fully vaccinated (the remainder had received only one shot or were unvaccinated).

It’s perhaps too soon to draw conclusions, but it doesn’t look like good news for those hoping widespread vaccination will bring about herd immunity...

But a fact that remains puzzling is that in public health discussions about how to reach herd immunity, there is very little talk of natural immunity developed by people who have had COVID and recovered. Why are they not considered immune, but people who’ve never been exposed to the real virus, only vaccinated, are thought to be immunized? Isn’t this a little odd?

People with natural immunity didn't pay the vaccine companies, so they must be ignored or demonized. That's all there is to it.

And I'm starting to think that the "vaccine" really does nothing at best, and is killing people at worst.

WATCH THE MRNA VAXXED WOMAN IN THE BACKGROUND AS SHE DROPS DEAD [2021-05-10]


Bill, Klaus and Charles: "It works, it really, really works!" Clapping hands and dancing.

Infection and Immune Memory: Variables in Robust Protection by Vaccines Against SARS-CoV-2
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.660019/full

Good science article on proof that naturally-acquired Covid-19 immunity appears to be better than that created by a vaccine. The summary is that natural immunity is more comprehensive and induced strong T-cell response that will likely last for over a decade, whereas vaccines are more one-sided in their induced immune response and it's unclear what kind of durable T-cell immunity they generate.

Ceffer says

WATCH THE MRNA VAXXED WOMAN IN THE BACKGROUND AS SHE DROPS DEAD [2021-05-10]

@Ceffer Which of the thousands of vaccine deaths was that? Got a link?