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Bitcoin says

Whats the timeline on this? You never hear this from the hard core anti-vaxxers.

I know you're trolling but nobody knows. For many, nothing may happen. For others, shit has happened and may happen. If we had long term studies/data on these shots, we'd be able to tell you more....that's the problem. So, you get to play the waiting game to find out; the anticipation is exciting. Please post here if something happens to you, but we don't need your daily updates.

WookieMan says

He's researching cases where the vax went south. It has happened.

I have three examples in my personal network. One died, one almost died, and the last one is still in the hospital trying to recover from multiple strokes.
I’ve already had Covid. I won’t be taking the vaccine as it confers Zero benefit and holds a risk.

porkchopexpress says

Bitcoin says

Whats the timeline on this? You never hear this from the hard core anti-vaxxers.

I know you're trolling but nobody knows. For many, nothing may happen. For others, shit has happened and may happen. If we had long term studies on these shots, we'd be able to tell you more....that's the problem.

Does anyone think it's a good idea to inject a biologic agent that causes your body to produce pathogens?

Found 5,165 cases where Vaccine targets COVID-19 (COVID19) and Patient Died
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=10&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&VAXTYPES=(COVID-19)&DIED=Yes
Of course, they were going to die anyway.

porkchopexpress says

For many, nothing may happen. For others, shit has happened and may happen. If we had long term studies/data on these shots, we'd be able to tell you more....that's the problem. So, you get to play the waiting game to find out; the anticipation is exciting. Please post here if something happens to you, but we don't need your daily updates.

That's not actually the dynamic of the situation.

Remember when we were kids, the number of children with varying allergies to nuts were minimal. Today, it's relatively commonplace as more and more parents have to now monitor everything their kids ingest, not to end up at the ICU.

Likewise, when the Spike protein accumulates in organ systems like the kidneys, liver, heart, spleen, etc, the body's natural support system tosses anti-oxidants, like glutathione, in its way to maintain homeostasis. Sure, it'll work for 7 to 15 years but one day, [heart, or hepatic, or renal] disease will kick in because those organ systems were never stressed to such a level for years at a time. So, a person's natural genetic timeline for developing heart disease may be from ages 65 to 75, however, with an added toxin, that could go down to ages 45-55.

I'd rather take my chances with a chest cold for a few days.

The vaccine is taking out a lot of old people.

Let's just rename the jab to "Social Security Preservation Plan".

Onvacation says

The vaccine is taking out a lot of old people.

Let's just rename the jab to "Social Security Preservation Plan".

so is covid, in a sense - hits mostly old farts. If I would be a conspiracy theorist, I'd say that elites released covid (and vaccines) to take care of pension problems, thus improving budgetary situation

Phizer UK experiment biologic agent reactions.

A report of a suspected ADR to the Yellow Card scheme does not necessarily
mean that it was caused by the vaccine, only that the reporter has a suspicion
it may have. Underlying or previously undiagnosed illness unrelated to vaccination
can also be factors in such reports. The relative number and nature of reports
should therefore not be used to compare the safety of the different vaccines.
All reports are kept under continual review in order to identify possible new risks.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990930/COVID-19_Pfizer_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf
They would have been sick or died anyway.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

For many, nothing may happen. For others, shit has happened and may happen. If we had long term studies/data on these shots, we'd be able to tell you more....that's the problem. So, you get to play the waiting game to find out; the anticipation is exciting. Please post here if something happens to you, but we don't need your daily updates.

That's not actually the dynamic of the situation.

Remember when we were kids, the number of children with varying allergies to nuts were minimal. Today, it's relatively commonplace as more and more parents have to now monitor everything their kids ingest, not to end up at the ICU.

Likewise, when the Spike protein accumulates in organ systems like the kidneys, liver, heart, spleen, etc, the body's natural support system tosses anti-oxidants, like glutathione, in its way to maintain homeostasis. Sure, it'll...

Agreed, though it's currently an unknown how long and how much spike protein is produced. In theory the mrna should break down and stop producing spike proteins after a "relatively" short period, enough to produce antibodies against and get ready to line up for the next booster jab soon again - which by itself can't be healthy to take a vaccine with adjuvants every 6 months to a year. In theory...

Rin says

I'd rather take my chances with a chest cold for a few days.

This is really all there is to it. If you don't think you can survive it, then get vaccinated. Otherwise, stay healthy to protect from any virus. There's more than just Covid19 and many are just as deadly.

I hate how we always just jump to a pill or vaccine. Take care of yourself and outside of cancer (for the most part) you'll live a long life. And yes, maybe have a chest cold or some other ailment that sucks for 4 days usually worst case.

Bitcoin says

richwicks says

The United States has repeatedly killed its own people. The Tuskegee Trials is an example of that, the USS Liberty is another example, it's suspected that the bombing of Pearl Harbor is another,

exactly what i mean. There is no end to the conspiracy madness.

Even when I give you specific examples, you just deny them.

This is why I don't think you're honest in your presentation of what you purport to be your beliefs. I understand what cognitive dissonance is, but I don't believe any human being can have the level you claim to have.

Why has nobody in Antifa and BLM been held accountable for the assaults and murders they committed? That's because, probably without their knowledge, were working for the intelligence agencies, to do a coup.

Do you have another explanation?

Explain Operation Northwoods.

Even when I point out current and past examples, you just continue with your bullshit. I don't think you're honestly trying to communicate much less think.

richwicks says

This is why I don't think you're honest in your presentation of what you purport to be your beliefs.

Trolls usually reveal themselves by this trait; It becomes obvious that they are more interested in getting a reaction than having a debate.

"You can't win wrestling with a pig, You'll both end up muddy and the pig likes it"

Onvacation says

richwicks says

This is why I don't think you're honest in your presentation of what you purport to be your beliefs.

Trolls usually reveal themselves by this trait; It becomes obvious that they are more interested in getting a reaction than having a debate.

"You can't win wrestling with a pig, You'll both end up muddy and the pig likes it"

I don't mind at all getting muddy.

The interesting thing with a troll, is when you get them to demonstrate their actual thinking. I think trolls are, honestly, mentally ill. They go through great lengths to be dishonest, what is interesting to me is when you get them to be actually honest. They are still a person, just one I cannot easily understand.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/hospital-suspends-178-workers-for-not-complying-with-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_3851279.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

The interesting part is that 178 workers in one hospital did not want to risk their lives on the "vaccine".

Pfizer.
Their long Rap Sheet culminated in record fines for criminal actions just a couple of years ago and now they are pushing the most profitable drug in history to national acclaim!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsBaCSNd_6c

Patrick says

The interesting part is that 178 workers in one hospital did not want to risk their lives on the "vaccine".

Was at the hospital yesterday and got the nephew's cast off. Never been to the place, so stop at the front desk to get directions to the children's area. With kids in tow I wasn't going to cause a ruckus. They asked me to put on a mask from their self serve bin. Needless to say in my attempt to grab one mask I accidentally pulled out all of them onto the floor. My bad.... lol.

Presumably after I walked away they just stuffed them back in.

I got into an argument last night with a nurse friend that thinks masks work, while she wasn't wearing one.... I asked if she's looked over any studies on masks pre-covid. Nope. I then ask how do you know they work? Crickets. The brainwashing has gotten into the medical field. The long term harm this is causing is going to be bad. Very bad. It was already tough to trust the medical field. It's exponentially worse, especially in men that refuse to go to the doctor.

WookieMan says

It was already tough to trust the medical field. It's exponentially worse, especially in men that refuse to go to the doctor.

One of my good friends is a Dr. For a major healthcare provider in ATL. He is 39 and on 5 scripts for BP, cholesterol, anxiety/depression, acid reflux and something else.

Small diet changes would likely correct the majority of his pre existing conditions.

He is STILL freaked out about covid and guarantee you he got the shots.

He believes everything pharma, you can't convince him otherwise.

joshuatrio says

He believes everything pharma, you can't convince him otherwise.

Yeah, this nurse kind of got argumentative about the conversation about masks. It was kind of hypocritical as she wasn't wearing a mask as we were talking at a bar without anyone else wearing a mask.

She got the jab though, so she's safe ;)

joshuatrio says

He is 39 and on 5 scripts for BP, cholesterol, anxiety/depression, acid reflux and something else.

Be a fucked up person, DON'T touch anxiety or depression pills EVER. You're better off smoking pot or taking some low dose edibles. I have massive anxiety. I've literally thrown up from it with no outside influence that I could peg down like food or a hangover. I will never, ever take pills for it though from big Pharma. I don't know a person on them that ends up better than their prior self. Plus you're just throwing more shit at your body that has to be filtered via the gut, liver, etc. It's not healthy.

BP is tricky. As I've said before I'm a touch overweight, but have always had high BP even when I was lean. That generally is a mild script though on the body and is a net benefit. AR I just hit with some tums after a pizza and beer night. On vacation (not the user) I will pregame daily with Prilosec as we'll be eating out and drinking more than normal to help with AR issues. Beyond that I don't even take pain relievers anymore.

I feel like the more pills you dump into your body, the worse it makes it. I've learned to deal with pain, but really don't have much of it. I liken pain to a fire alarm. You want to hear it so you know where the fire is or if there even is a fire. If I had popped pills after my heel fracture I may have thought I was fine and caused more damage that would have required surgery.

I'm not lean and thin, but not obese, yet have high BP, so that's a tough one. Like you said though a diet change would probably do wonders. That goes for anyone really.

WookieMan says

I'm not lean and thin, but not obese, yet have high BP, so that's a tough one.

It's actually rather simple, use Allisure Allicin, a natural vasodilator & BP lowering extract from Garlic. Only get the Allisure one as the other Allicins are not fully converted and for use as the final ingredient.

You can also combine it with Quercetin, R-Lipoic Acid, etc, for a synergistic effect.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/woman-dead-after-astrazeneca_3852740.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Australian Woman’s Death Linked to COVID-19 Jab
BY AAP June 10, 2021

The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration says the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine far outweigh the risks after a woman died from a blood clot in the brain in the state of New South Wales (NSW).

WookieMan says

I got into an argument last night with a nurse friend that thinks masks work, while she wasn't wearing one

ha, sounds familiar. how do you like this one: a relative of mine works in the medical field. Doesnt wear masks herself when meeting friends/family etc. Online she always posts about these dumb republicans not believing in masks. When I asked her why she is not wearing a mask herself she says it doesnt do anything to protect her. Lol. So I ask her why she is telling everyone else to wear one then? not allowed to question her.....She cant handle any form of critics or opposing view. Typical do as I say not as I do mentality. Needless to say I dont get along with her. Needless to say she's hard core liberal, aka brainwashed/mentally fucked.

richwicks says

Why has nobody in Antifa and BLM been held accountable for the assaults and murders they committed? That's because, probably without their knowledge, were working for the intelligence agencies, to do a coup.

Do you have another explanation?

like I said, everything becomes a conspiracy for ya. And when someone disagrees with you, you get personal.
Liberal leaders are fine with having their own cities destroyed. Trump wanted to move the national guard in, the demorat leaders tried to block that in any way possible. Whatever trump said/wanted, they tried to do the opposite to gain votes by stupid people. Losers buy into the BLM/Antifa movement and donate their little money to these corrupt leaders so they can buy more houses and yachts. This has very little to do with conspiracy amongst the intelligence agencies.

Patrick says

The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration says the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine far outweigh the risks after a woman died from a blood clot in the brain in the state of New South Wales (NSW).

"Your sacrifice for the science of eugenics, the Great Socialist Paradise, Emperors Gates and Schwab are greatly appreciated. Your certificate of appreciation will be with you in your coffin."

Lol, how disconnected from reality can you get?

Dude, Fauci funded the virus.

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

THE VAC*CINE CANNOT CREATE HERD IMM*UNITY, BUT IS A BIOWEAPON THAT IS K!LLING PEOPLE

lol, maybe I have superpowers.....I took the J&J jab and are still a life. If I can survive a bioweapon attack, nothing can scare me anymore!
Still waiting for that herpes to kick in.

Patrick says

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/hospital-suspends-178-workers-for-not-complying-with-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_3851279.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

The interesting part is that 178 workers in one hospital did not want to risk their lives on the "vaccine".

And they are going to rightfully sue the ever living hell out of that hospital’s administration. Hopefully they use the suppression of hcq/ivermectin/proper vitamin D levels/etc in their arguments as potential treatments that did not necessitate the EUA of the multiple holy Jabs.

ThreeBays says

Have you noticed how the right uses "experts" and "scientists" that are funded by people in finance or CEOs that stand to profit, since what they care about is not truth but $$$ profit. Same story as the climate change denier science that's funded by Big Oil. That must be more trustworthy science than science from academia or that we pay for from our taxes, am I right?

Attack the source, much?

If the experimental biologic agent gave you immunity why do you still need the mask?

Not expecting a cogent answer.

ThreeBays says

Have you noticed how the right uses "experts" and "scientists" that are funded by people in finance or CEOs that stand to profit, since what they care about is not truth but $$$ profit. Same story as the climate change denier science that's funded by Big Oil. That must be more trustworthy science than science from academia or that we pay for from our taxes, am I right?

Now do BigTech and BigPharma and Corporate Media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cdc-heart-inflammation-cases-ages-140826238.html

(Reuters) -A higher-than-expected number of young men have experienced heart inflammation after their second dose of the mRNA COVID-19 shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, according to data from two vaccine safety monitoring systems, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Thursday.

The CDC and other health regulators have been investigating heart inflammation cases after Israel’s Health Ministry reported that it had found a likely link to the condition in young men who received Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.

WookieMan says

joshuatrio says

He believes everything pharma, you can't convince him otherwise.

Yeah, this nurse kind of got argumentative about the conversation about masks. It was kind of hypocritical as she wasn't wearing a mask as we were talking at a bar without anyone else wearing a mask.

She got the jab though, so she's safe ;)

joshuatrio says

He is 39 and on 5 scripts for BP, cholesterol, anxiety/depression, acid reflux and something else.

Be a fucked up person, DON'T touch anxiety or depression pills EVER. You're better off smoking pot or taking some low dose edibles. I have massive anxiety. I've literally thrown up from it with no outside influence that I could peg down like food or a hangover. I will never, ever take pills for it though from big Pharma. I don't know a person on them that ends u...

I used to have severe anxiety/depression and acid reflux. I tried meds years back but they just tranquilized me. I've tried a bunch of supplements too, but the best ones that provided the most relief for anxiety/depressionary symptoms were ashwaghanda and gaba.

I tried every diet known to man (vegan, Paleo, whole30, high carb) for relief and none helped. It wasn't until I switched to a higher fat, low carb and cut out all grains and all the anxiety/depression/reflux disappeared in two days. I eat a lot of avocados, coconut milk, grass fed organic meats and veggies. I stay away from sugar/carby stuff like the plague.

I feel great now. Calm, rational, easy going. The American diet is highly inflammatory. Cut out the inflammation and your body will thank you.

Might be worth trying.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/nearly-800-reports-of-heart-inflammation-after-covid-19-vaccination-in-us_3853032.html

800 reports means anywhere from 8,000 to 80,000 actual occurrences.

Their hearts were going to get bigger anyway! They're Kids and kids grow!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/german-panel-gives-limited-approval-for-pfizers-covid-19-shot-for-children_3853348.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

German Panel Recommends Children With Pre-Existing Conditions Not Get Pfizer’s COVID-19 Vaccine
BY TOM OZIMEK June 10, 2021

Germany’s vaccine advisory committee on Thursday recommended that Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine should only be given to adolescents with pre-existing conditions that raise their risk of getting seriously sick if they get the pulmonary illness.

"The vaccine gave me a magnetic personality, but, yuck, I only attract heavy metal fans!"

I'll get the vaccination in 2 years, my kids will wait for 4.