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GNL
2021 Sep 2, 5:10pm
GNL
2021 Sep 2, 5:10pm
Does anyone know what the truth is? Seriously. How can we listen to 2 totally different truths about Covid and be able to KNOW what the truth is?
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mell
2021 Sep 2, 5:11pm
WineHorror1 says
Easy. Follow the money, there's the lie.
Does anyone know what the truth is? Seriously. How can we listen to 2 totally different truths about Covid and be able to KNOW what the truth is?
Easy. Follow the money, there's the lie.
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GNL
2021 Sep 2, 5:13pm
GNL
2021 Sep 2, 5:13pm
mell says
Do you know anyone that went to the hospital because of Covid?
WineHorror1 saysDoes anyone know what the truth is? Seriously. How can we listen to 2 totally different truths about Covid and be able to KNOW what the truth is?
Easy. Follow the money, there's the lje.
Do you know anyone that went to the hospital because of Covid?
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Robert Sproul
2021 Sep 2, 5:22pm
WineHorror1 says
Seen one way it is a choice between believing people that are making millions or billions in windfall profits versus credentialed scientists and doctors that are making no money, but risking their reputations and perhaps sacrificing their careers, to speak what they feel is the truth.
"When Big Money is being made Big Lies are being told"
Me
Does anyone know what the truth is? Seriously. How can we listen to 2 totally different truths about Covid and be able to KNOW what the truth is?
Seen one way it is a choice between believing people that are making millions or billions in windfall profits versus credentialed scientists and doctors that are making no money, but risking their reputations and perhaps sacrificing their careers, to speak what they feel is the truth.
"When Big Money is being made Big Lies are being told"
Me
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mell
2021 Sep 2, 5:23pm
WineHorror1 says
A handful, all people over 70 except for one who apparently was in their 50s. 2 died with (supposedly of) covid with comorbidities. Interestingly all with the earlier variants. No hospitalizations since delta. In my immediate family 5 had covid, all over 70. One went to the hospital briefly for an antibiotic treatment. The rest were asymptotic to moderately ill (flu). I do think covid can be a serious disease like the flu. I also know that the experimental biological agents make it worse. The data is clear. I also know that the cheap and effective treatments would cut down deaths by 50% easily if not up to 80% but there's no money to be made. TLDR: If you're equipped with a toolbox of cheap and effective treatments and not "vaxxed" and in good health then there's nothing to fear. I also recommend buying a rapid (15 minute) test for home if you don't want to start treatment on any cold symptoms. If you go for a test where you have to wait 1-3 days for results the therapeutic window for antivirals closes quickly. Anti-inflammatory meds/steroids work throughout the whole course. Oh and 2 people got maimed (killed) by the "vaxxine", many more, up to 10 with deteriorating health since the jab.
mell saysWineHorror1 saysDoes anyone know what the truth is? Seriously. How can we listen to 2 totally different truths about Covid and be able to KNOW what the truth is?
Easy. Follow the money, there's the lje.
Do you know anyone that went to the hospital because of Covid?
A handful, all people over 70 except for one who apparently was in their 50s. 2 died with (supposedly of) covid with comorbidities. Interestingly all with the earlier variants. No hospitalizations since delta. In my immediate family 5 had covid, all over 70. One went to the hospital briefly for an antibiotic treatment. The rest were asymptotic to moderately ill (flu). I do think covid can be a serious disease like the flu. I also know that the experimental biological agents make it worse. The data is clear. I also know that the cheap and effective treatments would cut down deaths by 50% easily if not up to 80% but there's no money to be made. TLDR: If you're equipped with a toolbox of cheap and effective treatments and not "vaxxed" and in good health then there's nothing to fear. I also recommend buying a rapid (15 minute) test for home if you don't want to start treatment on any cold symptoms. If you go for a test where you have to wait 1-3 days for results the therapeutic window for antivirals closes quickly. Anti-inflammatory meds/steroids work throughout the whole course. Oh and 2 people got maimed (killed) by the "vaxxine", many more, up to 10 with deteriorating health since the jab.
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Patrick
2021 Sep 2, 5:25pm
Patrick
2021 Sep 2, 5:25pm
WineHorror1 says
No, not a single person.
But like I said, I know one dead from the vaxx and one who had a heart attack from the vaxx.
Do you know anyone that went to the hospital because of Covid?
No, not a single person.
But like I said, I know one dead from the vaxx and one who had a heart attack from the vaxx.
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RWSGFY
2021 Sep 2, 5:47pm
RWSGFY
2021 Sep 2, 5:47pm
WineHorror1 says
My mother. She spent several days on oxygen and blood thinners but she's fine now.
Do you know anyone that went to the hospital because of Covid?
My mother. She spent several days on oxygen and blood thinners but she's fine now.
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Onvacation
2021 Sep 2, 6:20pm
Onvacation
2021 Sep 2, 6:20pm
mell says
We know, at least we think we know, there was an original Wuhan, from the bat and the lab, and we think it probably mutated, but do we really know which cases are alpha, beta, lambda, or andromeda?
I think not, but I do not know.
No hospitalizations since delta.
We know, at least we think we know, there was an original Wuhan, from the bat and the lab, and we think it probably mutated, but do we really know which cases are alpha, beta, lambda, or andromeda?
I think not, but I do not know.
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GNL
2021 Sep 2, 6:25pm
GNL
2021 Sep 2, 6:25pm
My sister just told me that the reason the Dr won't do anything about my father's esophagus (he can't keep food down and has lost 25 lbs) is because they can't move a Covid patient to any other space. So, it's not because he has Covid, it's because the hospital won't contaminate any other space in the hospital. I guess that makes sense. Too bad he tested positive today.
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GNL
2021 Sep 2, 6:32pm
GNL
2021 Sep 2, 6:32pm
I was also told the hospital won't do anything outside of the Fauci protocol.
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mell
2021 Sep 2, 7:23pm
WineHorror1 says
This is bullshit - that condition has most likely nothing to do with covid. I can't believe hospitals are doing this. Then they should move qualified docs up into the covid ward who can do procedures and treat this. Are they saying this is from covid?
My sister just told me that the reason the Dr won't do anything about my father's esophagus (he can't keep food down and has lost 25 lbs) is because they can't move a Covid patient to any other space. So, it's not because he has Covid, it's because the hospital won't contaminate any other space in the hospital. I guess that makes sense. Too bad he tested positive today.
This is bullshit - that condition has most likely nothing to do with covid. I can't believe hospitals are doing this. Then they should move qualified docs up into the covid ward who can do procedures and treat this. Are they saying this is from covid?
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mell
2021 Sep 2, 7:26pm
Onvacation says
The initial variants are usually always more severe than the mutations where the virus learns to adapt and survive by not killing the host (UNLESS you mass vaccinate with experimental agents, then future mutations could be worse), so it makes sense that the initial cases were more severe. Which is corroborated by total cases vs hospitalizations and deaths over time. Delta is now the predominant variant.
mell saysNo hospitalizations since delta.
We know, at least we think we know, there was an original Wuhan, from the bat and the lab, and we think it probably mutated, but do we really know which cases are alpha, beta, lambda, or andromeda?
I think not, but I do not know.
The initial variants are usually always more severe than the mutations where the virus learns to adapt and survive by not killing the host (UNLESS you mass vaccinate with experimental agents, then future mutations could be worse), so it makes sense that the initial cases were more severe. Which is corroborated by total cases vs hospitalizations and deaths over time. Delta is now the predominant variant.
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GNL
2021 Sep 2, 7:31pm
GNL
2021 Sep 2, 7:31pm
mell says
Dad has had Achalasia for a number of years. He has told his Drs. this many times over the years. He says nothing ever came of it. I assume the hospital has a rule that Covid patients cannot be moved around the hospital or have any procedures done until they are Covid free.
Achalasia is a rare disorder that makes it difficult for food and liquid to pass from the swallowing tube connecting your mouth and stomach (esophagus) into your stomach.
WineHorror1 saysMy sister just told me that the reason the Dr won't do anything about my father's esophagus (he can't keep food down and has lost 25 lbs) is because they can't move a Covid patient to any other space. So, it's not because he has Covid, it's because the hospital won't contaminate any other space in the hospital. I guess that makes sense. Too bad he tested positive today.
This is bullshit - that condition has most likely nothing to do with covid. I can't believe hospitals are doing this. Then they should move qualified docs up into the covid ward who can do procedures and treat this. Are they saying this is from covid?
Dad has had Achalasia for a number of years. He has told his Drs. this many times over the years. He says nothing ever came of it. I assume the hospital has a rule that Covid patients cannot be moved around the hospital or have any procedures done until they are Covid free.
Achalasia is a rare disorder that makes it difficult for food and liquid to pass from the swallowing tube connecting your mouth and stomach (esophagus) into your stomach.
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mell
2021 Sep 2, 8:10pm
WineHorror1 says
We have a friend who is a nurse visiting right now and she said they're no rules of separating covid patients from other necessary procedures and many hospitals don't even have the luxury area wise to have separate covid wards so they mix (in CA). Sorry, it just sounds crazy to me. Hope they will start treating it regardless of covid.
mell saysWineHorror1 saysMy sister just told me that the reason the Dr won't do anything about my father's esophagus (he can't keep food down and has lost 25 lbs) is because they can't move a Covid patient to any other space. So, it's not because he has Covid, it's because the hospital won't contaminate any other space in the hospital. I guess that makes sense. Too bad he tested positive today.
This is bullshit - that condition has most likely nothing to do with covid. I can't believe hospitals are doing this. Then they should move qualified docs up into the covid ward who can do procedures and treat this. Are they saying this is from covid?
Dad has had Achalasia for a number of years. He has told his Drs. this many times over the years. He says nothing ever came of it. I assume the hospital has a rule that C...
We have a friend who is a nurse visiting right now and she said they're no rules of separating covid patients from other necessary procedures and many hospitals don't even have the luxury area wise to have separate covid wards so they mix (in CA). Sorry, it just sounds crazy to me. Hope they will start treating it regardless of covid.
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Patrick
2021 Sep 2, 10:49pm
Patrick
2021 Sep 2, 10:49pm
WineHorror1 says
Right, part of the whole murderous scam is that hospitals get liability protection if and only if they do not cure patients using Ivermecting or any other effective drug.
https://patrick.net/post/1341005/2021-09-01-hospitals-refuse-to-prescribe-ivermectin
I was also told the hospital won't do anything outside of the Fauci protocol.
Right, part of the whole murderous scam is that hospitals get liability protection if and only if they do not cure patients using Ivermecting or any other effective drug.
https://patrick.net/post/1341005/2021-09-01-hospitals-refuse-to-prescribe-ivermectin
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Booger
2021 Sep 3, 11:33am
Booger
2021 Sep 3, 11:33am
NYC teachers union ready for war over demand to pull all unvaxxed from payroll
https://archive.is/yc0JD
https://archive.is/yc0JD
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Ceffer
2021 Sep 3, 12:20pm
Ceffer
2021 Sep 3, 12:20pm
That's OK. As long as Bill and Klaus Barbie Schwab keep making profits and the monkey wrench is thrown into freedoms:
https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/over-100-ontario-youth-have-been-sent-to-hospital-for-vaccine-related-heart-problems
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/24741
https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/over-100-ontario-youth-have-been-sent-to-hospital-for-vaccine-related-heart-problems
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/24741
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Patrick
2021 Sep 3, 2:56pm
Patrick
2021 Sep 3, 2:56pm
Many sites fail to distinguish between case fatality rate and infection fatality rate.
"Cases" are people who were sick enough to go to a doctor for it, so the death rate will be higher.
The infection fatality rate is very low, only about 0.3% overall, and half that if exclude nursing home residents (half the fatalities are among nursing home residents, where the median survival time is only about three months anyway).
If you're not in a nursing home, your chance of dying from Fauci Flu upon being infected is about that of the seasonal flu.
"Cases" are people who were sick enough to go to a doctor for it, so the death rate will be higher.
The infection fatality rate is very low, only about 0.3% overall, and half that if exclude nursing home residents (half the fatalities are among nursing home residents, where the median survival time is only about three months anyway).
If you're not in a nursing home, your chance of dying from Fauci Flu upon being infected is about that of the seasonal flu.
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mell
2021 Sep 3, 3:15pm
Patrick says
Yep this is actually - maybe well-meant - false information. The ifr is anywhere between 0.05%-0.5%, for kids more like 0.01% or even 0.001%. I wish they would post the accurate numbers, this may actually scare people.
Many sites fail to distinguish between case fatality rate and infection fatality rate.
"Cases" are people who were sick enough to go to a doctor for it, so the death rate will be higher.
The infection fatality rate is very low, only about 0.3% overall, and half that if exclude nursing home residents (half the fatalities are among nursing home residents, where the median survival time is only about three months anyway).
If you're not in a nursing home, your chance of dying from Fauci Flu upon being infected is about that of the seasonal flu.
Yep this is actually - maybe well-meant - false information. The ifr is anywhere between 0.05%-0.5%, for kids more like 0.01% or even 0.001%. I wish they would post the accurate numbers, this may actually scare people.
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Booger
2021 Sep 3, 4:47pm
Booger
2021 Sep 3, 4:47pm
https://nationalfile.com/pfizer-is-now-developing-a-twice-per-day-covid-pill-that-must-be-taken-alongside-vaccines/
Pfizer To ‘Require’ Twice-Per-Day COVID Pill Alongside Vaccines
Pfizer To ‘Require’ Twice-Per-Day COVID Pill Alongside Vaccines
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mell
2021 Sep 3, 4:49pm
Lol wtf. But if it's an antiviral treatment just stash it without the clot shot. But wait for side effect profile first!
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Patrick
2021 Sep 3, 4:51pm
Patrick
2021 Sep 3, 4:51pm
At least pills are not directly injected into your bloodstream. Seems safer.
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Onvacation
2021 Sep 3, 5:12pm
Onvacation
2021 Sep 3, 5:12pm
"Success against #COVID19 will likely require both vaccines & treatments. We’re pleased to share we’ve started a Phase 2/3 study of our oral antiviral candidate—specifically designed to combat SARS-CoV-2—in non-hospitalized, low-risk adults: "
At least we'll have the pill in hand to analyze for poison.
The problem is even if they put ZYCLON B in it the koolaid drinkers will still insist, "I'm doing it for YOUR safety so you better FUCKING DO IT FOR MY SAFETY."
At least we'll have the pill in hand to analyze for poison.
The problem is even if they put ZYCLON B in it the koolaid drinkers will still insist, "I'm doing it for YOUR safety so you better FUCKING DO IT FOR MY SAFETY."
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Onvacation
2021 Sep 3, 5:15pm
Onvacation
2021 Sep 3, 5:15pm
I just heard a radio announcement looking for people that have tested positive in the last five days and are in the group at high risk for dying to test the promising new oral Covid prevention.
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I know a few and they sound like absolute shit, and both feel like absolute crap.
Anyone else?
Why the fuck are people injecting themselves with a non-FDA approved biological agent?
And what the fuck are people afraid of, when this covid has a 99.97% survival rate?
I don't understand this level of retardedness... Or maybe I am just super, over the top, fucking retarded, that I can't understand this shit.