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Onvacation says

Misc says

The mRNA-1273 is encoded to trigger the cell into making a specific protein using the cell's normal manufacturing process

Which cells? All of them?Misc says

Does that make you feel better about wanting to take it?

No.

I get being old, but if you're healthy and under 50, covid should be of no concern. At all. If you're not healthy you should work on that before taking a vaccine. You'll die from something else before covid almost 100% of the time. Covid is nothing.

"You got the jab and are feeling a little peaked? And, what, you want your freedoms back as promised? You NEVER stop believing the lies, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! We won't EVER give you your fucking freedoms back. You are looking too healthy and frisky, time for some NEW jabs! HAAHAHAHAHHAH!"

ThreeBays says

Maybe look at why Michigan is so red?

because they have stricter mask mandates and shutdowns that FL and TX, no?

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

joshuatrio says

I'm seeing it in the FB group regarding the side effects of covid 19.

But how do you know which comments are real or fake? I am on several investment groups on FB.....You cant take it seriously. People troll the shit out of those groups.

I slightly agree with you, but FB also is generally a name to a face

But, when you are in a FB group and your friends/family are not in that same group as a member, they wont see anything you write/like/post in that particular group.

My experience has been that the investment groups on FB are full of BS and trolls. I dont know if the people doing it are real or fake profiles....hope I am not sounding racist but there is actually a pattern of weird names (often arabic) posting this shit on the groups. Its impossible for an admin to actually figure out what is really trolling or stupidity.

I havent been on any Covid/covid vaccine groups on FB....i could see that there are trolls as well especially because this is such a hot topic. You dont know anymore whats BS and whats real on social media.

Ceffer says

"You got the jab and are feeling a little peaked? And, what, you want your freedoms back as promised? You NEVER stop believing the lies, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! We won't EVER give you your fucking freedoms back. You are looking too healthy and frisky, time for some NEW jabs! HAAHAHAHAHHAH!"

Had conversations with few in India. People are getting infected who got vaccinated! At my neighborhood pretty much all going through pain who got jab. One woman ended up in urgent care and went through ct scan for the unstoppable a week long headaches and body pains. Good that she says is ok now. Once reply in the thread about pains was 'if you are going through pains means the vaccine is working' lol!

Bitcoin says

But, when you are in a FB group and your friends/family are not in that same group as a member, they wont see anything you write/like/post in that particular group.

Depends on the group. I don't use FB often. Some groups are wide open though, I know that for sure. I have a few groups I run currently for trips we're going on. Even in a closed group though generally people know each other. If they're BS'ing they may not get called out, but it will bring into question the integrity of the person BS'ing even if nothing is said.

I don't like FB, but it has it's place. We have 30+ people going to St. Thomas in October. It does serve a function for organizing people as much as I hate it.

ThreeBays says

Since vaccines were prioritized for 65+ until recently, I think a better indicator may be to look at number of deaths instead of new cases. Deaths are down by a lot since February. Most new cases are in the younger population and vaccines just started going in arms for 18-64 recently. It takes 5-6 weeks to be fully vaccinated.

Not saying vaccines don't work. And thank you for a cordial response. The "outbreaks" have been sooooo god damn random though. Regardless of vaccination rates. We go south for spring break. So do people from Michigan. Yet FL has no hot spots besides south FL.

I don't know in all honesty. The pattern of outbreaks and cases leads me to believe this is bull shit. Michigan is a hot spot, but FL where millions of people vacation for spring break, is wide open, is basically below average. It doesn't make sense on the surface.

The anti-vaxxers believe that there is not any bad information flying around the internet with regards to their anti-vax position.

There is just as much misinformation for an anti-vax position as there is for a pro-vax position.

Most people do not die from the flu, but millions get their yearly flu shot.

Most people survive the measles (only about 1-2 per thousand die)

https://www.google.com/search?q=measles+mortality+rate&sxsrf=ALeKk01n1MoDb3FV2CjyZ0nBI9QgidQ71g%3A1619125884778&source=hp&ei=fOaBYJqdLKWS0PEP9seP6As&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYIH0jO0Y1gbpMXCMhASwnb80aHSSYZcg&oq=measels+mor&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOgUIABCxAzoLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAguELEDEIMBOgQIABADOg4ILhDHARCvARCRAhCTAjoLCC4QxwEQrwEQkQI6BAgAEEM6BwguELEDEEM6CggAELEDEIMBEEM6BQguELEDOgcIABCxAxBDOgIIADoNCC4QsQMQxwEQrwEQQzoICC4QxwEQrwE6BwgAELEDEApQkhRY80lgn19oAXAAeACAAaYBiAHaCZIBBDEuMTCYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEK&sclient=gws-wiz

Mumps? --- about 5 per thousand die

Yes, we mandatorily vaccinate for these if you want your children to participate in schools.

The death rate for most contagious diseases is a "NOTHINGBURGER"

As a 1st world nation, we do not want communicable diseases to swoosh through our society. Even 3rd world nations would prefer to not have this happen.

Has Covid been hyped? --- No shit

Have the mysterious "them" falsified the millions of patients that have been hospitalized with it? ------ Obviously not

Misc says

As a 1st world nation, we do not want communicable diseases to swoosh through our society. Even 3rd world nations would prefer to not have this happen.

Has Covid been hyped? --- No shit

spot on....100% agree. just because this was a scamdemic doesnt mean there is this huge conspiracy behind the vaccine....if you dont feel comfortable taking it then please.....dont.
Having a vaccine is a good thing IMO. I rather have a vaccine by an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation then get Covid. People always say, but you dont die from it (covid). Okay, so, just because I dont die from it doesnt mean I want it.....I like to think the flu shot has protected me from getting the flu. Getting the flu prevents me from biking, hiking, pool time and walking my doggy. My uncle was in great shape but he had health issues since he caught covid. could be co-incidence but why take the chance? I rather take the chance of getting a vaccine. But, your body, your choice.

Misc says

Yes, we mandatorily vaccinate for these if you want your children to participate in schools.

You don't have to vaccinate to get into a public school. Hence why vax passports are pure shit and can't happen. I'm all for vaccinations and myself and family have gotten all the recommended ones. I'm not getting this one for 5 years minimum. Covid 19 is not dangerous. Still yet to get a flu shot and not dead yet. Don't let "them" brainwash you.

Parting people from their money over the fear of death. They should be hung...

Misc says

Have the mysterious "them" falsified the millions of patients that have been hospitalized with it? ------ Obviously not

This is completely false.

Blue says

People are getting infected who got vaccinated!

That's me!

Deathwise Covid is more dangerous than the measles. Did they "brainwash" you.

Misc says

Deathwise Covid is more dangerous than the measles. Did they "brainwash" you.

I'm in my 30's, so no, covid is not dangerous to me. Fine if you want to compare overall. Either way, no intention of taking a 6 month pumped out vax. Sorry.

Misc says

Deathwise Covid is more dangerous than the measles. Did they "brainwash" you.

That's a false statement. On the surface it's roughly comparable to measles on avg. but measles can be see serious for all ages and with or without comorbidities. For an otherwise healthy person the rate of covid is significantly lower. If you add in the fact that there's massive undetected asymptomatic covid but hardly any asymptomatic measles then covid is far less lethal than measles.

Now that you mention it, Bill doesn't seem that bright. He was a college drop out.

Zuckerberg doesn't exactly strike me as a genius either.

And who was that hairy guy from Twitter? MENSA's not calling him.

Rand Paul EVISCERATES Fauci with Facts


original link

"Bill Gates sends militarized pygmy team to vaccinate Elon Musk and family with blow darts."

"They will feel the sting of my genocidal mRNA wrath!"

mell says

For an otherwise healthy person the rate of covid is significantly lower. If you add in the fact that there's massive undetected asymptomatic covid

If one does not have co-morbidities, like heart attack, pulmonary dysfunction/emphysema, stage 4 cancer, organ failure, etc, then the Rin Pill plus adjuvants ...

https://patrick.net/post/1334265/2020-08-04-trump-pills-may-be-illegal-but-rin-pills-are-here-and-here-to-stay

should protect you from covid even if you're above 60.

No stimulus checks - no jab.

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

Rand Paul EVISCERATES Fauci with Facts

Sure sure. Btw Paul seems to be saying the vaccines are great.

He says young people are fine and take it if you want. That was pretty clear. That's what everyone is saying.

BIDEN: "GET VACCINATED. MASK UP. THANK YOU, AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE SHOW"

"If 10's of millions more Americans get vaccinated you can meet with your family in small groups on the 4th of July."

HAHAHAHHHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAH! Jab-ees! Michigan Jab-ees get double fucked!

"Michigan is Considering Permanent Covid-19 Rules"

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1285737/pg1

Also, kind remarks about the California and Pacific Coastal exit plague:

"My little valley in Montana is currently over-run with people from Kalifornia, Oregon and Washington squatting wherever they can in their RVs and trying TRYING to buy land here.
We have agreed as a community not to sell land to them, of course.
No sense destroying our own community with the Progressive cancer.
But crime is on the rise here now and it is getting harder and harder to be civil with the newcomers.
I hope that come spring time they can flee back to their sh!thole states and leave us alone."

https://sputniknews.com/europe/202104231082704623-norway-risk-of-dying-from-astrazeneca-higher-than-of-covid-19/

FuckCCP89 says

No stimulus checks - no jab.

Not eligible for stimulus checks, so no loss for me!

Booger says

FuckCCP89 says

No stimulus checks - no jab.

Not eligible for stimulus checks, so no loss for me!

Yeah, no shit. Not only will we be the ones paying it back, but the prices of everything are going through the roof because of it. So we get doubly screw. I'm triple screwed as we took my nephew in and until we get some form of guardianship we get to pay for that AND don't get any of the tax benefits.

Fact is I'd be against stimulus even if I got it. This is a flu. There better not be another round. Our government is buying votes with our money.

No change in so called infection rates despite huge numbers of people taking the experimental biological agent jab.

“Over a quarter of the United States population has been vaccinated for Covid-19. One would think that with so many allegedly "safe" people combined with the warmer weather, Covid cases today would be dropping compared to February. They're not.

In fact, the numbers are almost identical. In the last week of February, the U.S. was averaging 65,686 new coronavirus cases per day. Now, eight weeks later, we're averaging 64,814 new cases per day.”

https://www.wnd.com/2021/04/86-million-vaccinated-yet-daily-covid-19-cases-february/

PeopleUnited says

No change in so called infection rates despite huge numbers of people taking the experimental biological agent jab.

Covid is real. I'm convinced the case data is manipulated though to scare us. It's been over a year now and I still don't personally know someone that has died. And the 2nd hand data I've gotten from 3 deaths were all old or extremely unhealthy. People need to turn off the TV's, put their damn phones down and think.

This isn't a conspiracy theory either. Just look at the data. Older influenza strains just go away? Because of mask? That have been proven to be ineffective agains viral transmission? If masks worked we'd have all been wearing them 50 years ago. Is common sense dead?

WookieMan says

Covid is real. I'm convinced the case data is manipulated though to scare us.

Yes Wuhan Flu is real, but as you said something is rotten with the numbers.

Either Wuhan flu numbers are over inflated, or previous years influenza numbers are overinflated. Either way it is fear mongering by big pharma and their CDC puppets.

https://noqreport.com/2021/04/23/and-so-it-begins-12-universities-in-maryland-mandate-vaccines-for-all-students-and-faculty/

12 universities in Maryland mandate vaccines for ALL students and faculty

PeopleUnited says

WookieMan says

Covid is real. I'm convinced the case data is manipulated though to scare us.

Yes Wuhan Flu is real, but as you said something is rotten with the numbers.

Either Wuhan flu numbers are over inflated, or previous years influenza numbers are overinflated. Either way it is fear mongering by big pharma and their CDC puppets.

Don't forget they are counting PCR tests with arbitrary thresholds and "presumed" cases. Inflated? you bet, the real deaths due to Covid and Covid only are probably 25% of that number.

Remember the Italian Covid scam? They reduced the Covid death estimates by 90 percent down from the claims during the peak MSM generated hysterias i.e. they didn't think that any more than 10 percent of the claimed Covid deaths could have been valid.

Didn't matter, the fear vector had already worked.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/cdc-committee-to-meet-friday-about-johnson-johnson-vaccine

"Johnson & Johnson vaccine: CDC lifts suspension amid blood clot concerns"

told ya

zzyzzx says

https://noqreport.com/2021/04/23/and-so-it-begins-12-universities-in-maryland-mandate-vaccines-for-all-students-and-faculty/

12 universities in Maryland mandate vaccines for ALL students and faculty

Some University of Maryland faculty members were thrilled to learn of the mandate this week.

“Relief, that’s the word,” said Matthew Kirschenbaum, a professor of English and digital studies at the University of Maryland, College Park, said of his reaction when he heard the news.



Kirschenbaum, who is vaccinated, said he teaches classes remotely and longs for the days when students attended his lab in person.

Bitcoin says

"Johnson & Johnson vaccine: CDC lifts suspension amid blood clot concerns"

told ya

I don't think anyone said they wouldn't. It's a multi-billion dollar corp, they'll get what they want. Especially when the FDA doesn't have to approve it.

Remember, this is all for a virus that almost no one knows they have or is a minor inconvenience. A few get some rough flu like conditions. If I had it in January, it was your basic flu. In the moment it sucks, but it's really nothing in hindsight.

Be healthy and you'll live from this even if you're a geezer. There's no point in taking this, though if you want that's your choice. I wouldn't and won't. If you do, I won't bash anyone besides tell them it wasn't necessary depending on their health.

I recommend reading this whole article from 2017:

Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

Snippets:
But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects. Bancel has repeatedly promised that Moderna’s new therapies will change the world, but the company has refused to publish any data on its mRNA vehicles, sparking skepticism from some scientists and a chiding from the editors of Nature.

“[The technology] would have to be a miraculous, Hail Mary sort of save for them to get to where they need to be on their timelines,” one former employee said. “Either [Bancel] is extremely confident that it’s going to work, or he’s getting kind of jittery that with a lack of progress he needs to put something out there.”

From the start, Moderna’s scientists knew that using mRNA to spur protein production would be a tough task, so they scoured the medical literature for diseases that might be treated with just small amounts of additional protein. UM, WHAT??? HOW ABOUT CORONAVIRUS?

“And that list of diseases is very, very short,” said the former employee who described Bancel as needing a Hail Mary.

Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators said. The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.

But at its current valuation, Moderna’s IPO would be the biggest in biotech history, leaving some investors scratching their heads as to how the company’s vaccine-heavy pipeline could justify such a number. If Moderna chooses to stay private, it’s unclear whether it can raise more cash without resorting to a dreaded down round, in which new shares are sold at a price below the last ones. WELL THEN, LET'S START A PLANDEMIC! THAT'LL GET US THE FUNDING WE NEED


Wasn't Bill Gates involved with funding research at the Wuhan lab?

porkchopexpress says

I recommend reading this whole article from 2017:

Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

I like this snippet the most:

His presentation instead focused on four vaccines that the company is moving through the first phase of clinical trials: two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret.

FuckCCP89 says

I like this snippet the most:

His presentation instead focused on four vaccines that the company is moving through the first phase of clinical trials: two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret.

Yea, that's a great one.