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9/11: SHORT WTC7 VIDEO COMPILATION

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I don't want to debate who killed Kennedy, or who planned and executed 9/11/2001. History might tell the truth someday.

Two planes did not take down 3 steel framed towers. It's clear that the official story is wrong to anyone that has studied Physics. David Chandler, creator of this video used to teach physics.

I don't want to debate it. Oswald did not fire his Italian relic from the book depository without help. He was not a lone gunman. The MIC and intelligence agencies have been subverting our constitution for a long time.

Wars in my lifetime:
Vietnam
The war on poverty
The war on drugs
The war on Terror
The war on the invisible enemy

We must have lost all of these wars for every time one happens the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and we all lose more of our essential liberties so that the government can keep us safe.

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129   Reality   ignore (8)   2021 Apr 9, 8:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
You even believe that someone planted explosives in the WTC. And you think that group of people didnt know what they were doing. They were just following orders ("drop a bag here").


It doesn't take much thermite to cut each structural supporting column. There was "renovation" going on in the building in the days leading up to the event. The assassination of JFK involved multiple shooting teams totaling over a dozen men, and that's just for the spotting and trigger-pulling, with many hundreds of men providing logistics, coordination and paying/covering-up. A fatal flaw in the narrative of a airplane so easily bringing down a skyscraper is this: why would anyone or any organizations build skyscrapers after that? or finding tenants willing to rent in those buildings? There have been literally many dozens if not hundreds of skyscrapers built all around the world since 2001. Not having asbestos in the new buildings (therefore don't require billions of dollars to renovate the building taking that out) doesn't exactly provide additional structural strength to the building.

Bitcoin says
The US is a country where we can have free speech, buy guns/ammo and be very successful if we work hard.


That US (that you described) was a product of European fragmentation. It would not have existed without French throwing a monkey wrench in British colonial policies (even if the French monarchy was more tyrannical than the British; likewise British monkey wrench later brought down French monarchy). There is another US(SA) today in the blue states where free speech is massively curtailed, and politicians openly want to take your guns and claim all credit to your hard work! A centralized world government under whichever government would only be a new version of Nazi Germany, a new Stalinist Soviet Russia (USSR) and a new Maoist China combined, without the counterveiling force of Western Republics (and Constitutional Monarchies). The evil is fundamentally the bureaucratic monopoly and lack of individual rights (enumerated in the US Constitution, first 10 Amendments), which as we have seen in the past few months don't mean much in the eyes of the bureaucratic monopoly. An unfortunate nature of human being is that many inmates would be willing/eager to kill and bury other inmates if that "job" gives him/her a few more days before being killed and buried. Everyone loses in a centralized tyrannical system; any centralized system becomes tyrannical very quickly due to human nature.
130   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 8:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
that's the beauty of living in the US, the best country on earth. We can have a difference in opinion and you can be highly critical of your government and your fellow citizens. And you wont get punished for it. Free speech


We don't have free speech. This is why Glenn Greenwald lives in Brazil, this is why Julian Assange is in prison - for life. This is why Edward Snowden is in Russia and why Bill Binney was fired from his job.

Bitcoin says
If you would live in the Middle East or Africa, your head would have already been chopped off.


Wait 10 years. People like you do NOTHING to stop the progression. Nothing at all. Just "Amerika is the greatest country in the world!!! Let's vote for another Neocon puppet that will keep us in war for fucking ever" - these wars do NOTHING for the United States. What is the mission in Afghanistan? Yemen? Somalia? You don't know. I do - it's create chaos, control resources, and import opium from Afghanistan.

Bitcoin says
I dont think that Covid is dangerous per se. It really depends on your health and age profile. Our company had the best year in 2020 and I have never gotten such a large bonus and pay raise before. In a way, covid has been good to me.....I even get to work from home now 100% of the time! Yeeehaaa!!
I still got the vaccine (J&J) and I am not even at risk. I still get the flu shots every year as well. And I dont have dementia yet and are apparently still alive.


haha.

Bitcoin says
In regards to your other points. The US is the world police. Besides keeping us safe here, we make the world safer. Does the police do mistakes sometimes? Sure. And we learn from it.


The US isn't the world police. It's the gangster nation. The US is in Syria to put in a pipeline to Europe from the Golan Heights to Turkey, the US wouldn't care a BIT of Assad was actually gassing his own people, they don't give a damned there's slavery in Libya. The reason the US is at loggerheads with Russia is partially to prevent the Nordstream II from being completed - that's why they are in Ukraine and why they overthrew their government.

You have never talked to somebody in one of the nations the US has intervened in have you?

Bitcoin says
I dont believe in conspiracy theories at the scale you describe (9/11 etc). The reason for it is, when you talk to conspiracy theorists the stories get very quickly, very crazy. And these people are not capable of looking at it with an open mind. Everything becomes a conspiracy and parts of it become so ridiculous that you just can't take it seriously.


Oh my god. We just went through 4 years of "Russian Collusion!". There was Bana al-Abed, a kid that was supposedly a Syrian begging the US to please bomb her nation more, who supposedly was sending out Tweets from Aleppo every day - something I know absolutely to be impossible - if water wasn't flowing in Aleppo, the Internet certainly wouldn't be working. You (should) know the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a false flag at this point. The Nayirah testimony in 1990 was propaganda, done by the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to create propaganda to justify the first war in Iraq.

There's the "Rebuilding America's Defenses" strategic from the Project for the New American Century:

https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses

Page 51, 1st complete paragraph:



That was published on September 1, 2000. What a coincidence that just a year and 10 days later, exactly what they needed, happened.

Bitcoin says
I hope today is another successful day to take out another bad guy or a bunch of them. Go USA!


It's so hard to take you seriously. This is the kind of mindlessly buffoonery I expect to hear on network television "news". It's so, jingoistic. Childish. I can't help but think you're simply trolling me. It's difficult to imagine you being entirely serious and actually believing what you're saying. I have a difficult time imaging you're this ignorant. You seem more like shill than sincere believer.
131   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 8:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@Reality,

Reality says
why would anyone or any organizations build skyscrapers after that?


How often does an airplane fly into a skyscraper? That's like saying, why would any company still manufacture car's. You can get killed by it.

Reality says
There is another US(SA) today in the blue states where free speech is massively curtailed, and politicians openly want to take your guns and claim all credit to your hard work!


I always say what I want to say. Some of my liberal relatives tried to alienate me because of it. So what? If you have toxic people in your life, get rid of them. In countries like France or Germany, you cant even post certain statements anymore online because they are outlawed. Frankly, shutting down someone's Twitter account is basically the same thing.

Politicians always come out with big headlines like "ban assault rifles". It's a good way to get more votes. Nobody would ever actually come to your house and try to take your guns on a LARGE SCALE. That scare is 20 years old (probably) that they will TAKE your guns. Its bullshit. But ammo/gun purchases will be made harder and harder. More regulations/bureaucracy and taxes.
132   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 8:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
We don't have free speech. This is why Edward Snowden is in Russia


Reading your first sentence tells me everything. This is what I mean when I say the stories get very crazy quickly.

per the internet:
"Edward Joseph Snowden is a former computer intelligence consultant who copied and leaked highly classified information from the National Security Agency in 2013 when he was a Central Intelligence Agency employee and subcontractor."

That's a little more than free speech. In your mind: free speech is dead and we have to live in Russia if we practice free speech.

That's why talking to a hardcore conspiracy theorist is not more than entertainment. I just cant take you seriously.

That's the second crazy story you came up with in just two days. Your first one was that the WTC was prepped with explosives by people that didnt know what they were doing and according to you preparing the WTC for an implosion was as easy as "drop a bag here".

See what I mean? There is no basis to actually have a meaningful discussion. Your are too far gone :) But it is entertaining for a while.
133   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 9:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
richwicks says
We don't have free speech. This is why Edward Snowden is in Russia


Reading your first sentence tells me everything. This is what I mean when I say the stories get very crazy quickly.

per the internet:
"Edward Joseph Snowden is a former computer intelligence consultant who copied and leaked highly classified information from the National Security Agency in 2013 when he was a Central Intelligence Agency employee and subcontractor."


Snowden revealed our intelligence agencies are violating the Constitution, and spying on all electronic communication, in violation of the 4th amendment. Bill Binney revealed this, was called a "conspiracy theorist" then (supposedly) resigned from his post at the NSA, then was relentlessly investigated and then ignored. Snowden is the man that proved that was Binney was saying, was completely true.

Bitcoin says
That's a little more than free speech. In your mind: free speech is dead and we have to live in Russia if we practice free speech.


I'm pointing out that Russia has more free speech than we do.

I donated the federal maximum to Ron Paul's campaign in 2008. Then I got accused of cheating on my taxes by the IRS in 2009. What a coincidence.

Bitcoin says
That's why talking to a hardcore conspiracy theorist is not more than entertainment. I just cant take you seriously.


If something I've said regarding a "conspiracy theory" is incorrect in your view, take issue with what I said specifically, and indicate that you think my statement is wrong, and I will explain why I have come to my conclusion.

Bitcoin says

That's the second crazy story you came up with in just two days.


What are you referring to? Quote me.

Bitcoin says
Your first one was that the WTC was prepped with explosives by people that didnt know what they were doing and according to you preparing the WTC for an implosion was as easy as "drop a bag here".


Where did I say that? Quote me. Don't strawman me.

Bitcoin says
See what I mean? There is no basis to actually have a meaningful discussion. Your are too far gone :) But it is entertaining for a while.


Not when you strawman me, there isn't.

As I said, you're acting like a shill right now. Don't strawman me, don't call me names, explain how you think I'm incorrect, and I will address it - but I expect you to quote me, and if you take me out of context, I'll fill in the context. I've done this many times with people who dishonestly try to win in what they think is a "debate". I don't debate, but I will discuss.

Anything I've said, that you think is not factual, please point it out and I'll address it. I very well may be mistaken about statements of fact I've given. If that's the case, I'd be happy to be shown to be wrong. I don't like being wrong.
134   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 9, 9:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Anything I've said, that you think is not factual, please point it out and I'll address it. I very well may be mistaken about statements of fact I've given. If that's the case, I'd be happy to be shown to be wrong. I don't like being wrong.

Don't hold your breath.

Some people quote out of context, even change quotes. If it entertains you to converse with these fools, I get it, but it does get old pretty quick when they have no real substance.

I think you're right. They shill for things they don't even understand.
135   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 9:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says

What makes you think the Geraldo knows it contains explosives? "Just attach this bag in this location. Geraldo."


That was your first crazy story.

Your second one is that Snowden has to live in Russia because he practiced free speech. You dont want to mention he leaked highly confidential info. I am not saying he was right or wrong. I am saying you are wrong in saying that he lives in Russia because we have no free speech in the US.

your third crazy story is that the IRS targets you because you donated to Ron Paul.

The stories will go on and on and on. I was entertained until now but I am getting bored. I dont say you are a Loony but you are def too far down the rabbit hole and everything becomes a conspiracy. I wish you all the best.
136   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 10:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
richwicks says

What makes you think the Geraldo knows it contains explosives? "Just attach this bag in this location. Geraldo."


That was your first crazy story.


You are referencing this:


richwicks says
Bitcoin says
Geraldo's boss orders Geraldo to plant explosives in the twin towers on a Sunday night.


What makes you think the Geraldo knows it contains explosives? "Just attach this bag in this location. Geraldo."



And you've taken me out of context. I was pointing out that people involved in a conspiracy are often unaware they are part of it. That's why people in intelligence are often limited to a "need to know basis".

Bitcoin says
Your second one is that Snowden has to live in Russia because he practiced free speech. You dont want to mention he leaked highly confidential info. I am not saying he was right or wrong. I am saying you are wrong in saying that he lives in Russia because we have no free speech in the US.


He lives in Russia because the United States revoked his Passport as he was making his way to Hong Kong. This was done to make him appear to be a Russian spy, which the United States has repeatedly, falsely, claimed he was.

I'm demonstrating whistleblowers are punished and our government is deliberately criminal, and it's completely accepted at the top levels of government.

Bitcoin says
your third crazy story is that the IRS targets you because you donated to Ron Paul.


I can't know for certain, I said:


richwicks says
I donated the federal maximum to Ron Paul's campaign in 2008. Then I got accused of cheating on my taxes by the IRS in 2009. What a coincidence.



I don't know if it was a coincidence or not, I know I didn't have any errors on my taxes. When I contacted the IRS, they immediately closed the case. That made me feel like they were trying to intimidate me.

Bitcoin says
The stories will go on and on and on. I was entertained until now but I am getting bored. I dont say you are a Loony but you are def too far down the rabbit hole and everything becomes a conspiracy. I wish you all the best.


Haha, again, you simply dismiss things, and don't think about them at all. I find that insincere.

Remember the "5 dancing Israelis"? They existed. They were photographing and video tapping themselves as the World Trade Centers were burning, celebrating. They were arrested and their videotapes and photographs confiscated. They are classified:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/no_author/the-dancing-israelis-fbi-docs-shed-light-on-apparent-mossad-foreknowledge-of-9-11-attacks/

Here is what an FOIA request produced, and all it produced:

https://www.scribd.com/document/409691150/FOIA-Release-of-9-11-Dancing-Israelis-thru-the-FBI

The FIB redacted images, and won't release the videos. They worked for "Urban Moving Systems" - they were illegal Israeli immigrants, who for some reason left Israel to work in NYC as movers. After 9/11 - "Urban Moving Systems" disappeared because, most likely, it was a front for Mossad.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Urban_Moving_Systems

There's a lot of suspicious things around 9/11, but you won't look at them.
137   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 11:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
And you've taken me out of context. I was pointing out that people involved in a conspiracy are often unaware they are part of it.


yep, and I am saying that I dont believe that group of highly skilled people that prepped the WTC for an implosion didnt know what they were doing. Not for a second. I also dont think that this actually happened. I think 2 airplanes hit the WTC and that's what caused the collapse not the bad US government hiring people to place explosives.

I blame radical muslims/islamic terrorists for it.

If someone would try to prep the WTC with explosives, someone would have noticed, someone would have leaked something and someone would have blew the whistle. I dont believe you can pull such a huge project and get away with it. It's not as easy as "drop a bag here".
138   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 9, 11:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
There's a lot of suspicious things around 9/11, but you won't look at them.

For some, the cognitive dissonance of 9/11 is too hard to fathom and they put their fingers in their ears and say things like, "you are def too far down the rabbit hole and everything becomes a conspiracy. I wish you all the best." instead of trying to rebut, or even look at the evidence you are showing them.

For them "facts don't matter as much as the truth". For them truth is subjective.

It's kind of like the raving Karens who insist you wear a mask but don't know a single person that died of the Wuhan after 1 year, 27 days of a two week lockdown to flatten the curve of death.

I am afraid the curve of death is here to stay if we don't attempt, however futilely, to awaken these sleeping people to the threat of these globalist criminals. Unfortunately, "You can't wake up people pretending to sleep".
139   Hircus   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 9, 12:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
I believe a plane DID hit the Pentagon, but I have a hard time believing a novice would be able to do that. It's also difficult to believe that nothing was done to prevent a plane that was known to have been hijacked would be allowed to fly into DC and hit the headquarters of the defense department.

I don't posit hypotheses - I'm just pointing out that the official story is very difficult to believe.


Fair enough. I was just saying that I feel the pentagon path / angle looked pretty doable.

I agree there's plenty of inconsistencies when you look at the greater 9/11 event.
140   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Apr 9, 1:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
that's the beauty of living in the US, the best country on earth. We can have a difference in opinion and you can be highly critical of your government and your fellow citizens. And you wont get punished for it. Free speech.


Well, not anymore.

Now you won't get hired, for example. That's definitely a kind of punishment.

And if you try to use your free speech on one of the oligopoly platforms, it will be deleted unless you agree with The Narrative.

Our rights are steadily becoming only theoretical rights, denied in actual practice.
141   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 1:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
richwicks says
And you've taken me out of context. I was pointing out that people involved in a conspiracy are often unaware they are part of it.


yep, and I am saying that I dont believe that group of highly skilled people that prepped the WTC for an implosion didnt know what they were doing


Listen, the only statement I can make with regard to 9/11 is the public has been lied to about what happened. Going into speculation of what precisely was done and how it was done, is pointless speculation. Who cares?

If you think a conspiracy on a large magnitude can't be pulled off, it is only because you're not aware of previous known conspiracies. The Tuskegee Trials for one, Operation Ajax overthrew a nation, as did Operation PBSuccess. Project MKUltra was a "conspiracy theory" for a long time - but that happened - that came out in the Church Committee. Wikipedia STILL claims that Operation Mockingbird is a "conspiracy theory" despite the fact that ALSO came out in the Church Committee.

Here, you want a huge conspiracy? The Catholic religion. A smaller one is the Knights Templars, for CENTURIES, were loaning out credit based on supposed deposits of gold which they just lied about. Eventually most were hunted down and killed, after 2 centuries of fraud. They did the same thing the Federal Reserve has done. The Fed was caught in 1933, but instead of killing them all, the US government just turned a blind eye to it. They were caught again in 1971.

I don't make any effort, at all, to try to get people to see the reality of the situation. I'm interested in actual conspiracies, and propaganda which is an integral part of it.

It's quite obvious, blatantly obvious, that 9/11 was either allowed to happen, or was engineered to happen - and not just by a few terrorists.

I'm a much happier, and saner person, without trying to reconcile my thinking with "the official explanation". I'm just fucking tired of attempting to do that. When I did still try to do that then "journalists are mistaken about X" - no, they are lying about X, they are propagandists or "Politician X just was blocked from doing Y" - no, Politician X had no intention to do Y, he's a fraud.

It's much easier to be cynical and it's dangerous to have the thinking "I'm smarter than a journalist whose job is to know what is going on or an intelligence agency that has inside information". I knew that the Bush administration was lying about the "weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq" in 2001 but if I voiced that, tried to explain it, I was called crazy.

I no longer can be cowered into silence and being free of cognitive dissonance, it's so much better. My mind is no longer constantly trying to work out crazy paths of reasoning to reconcile what I know to be a fact with the bullshit propaganda which is supposedly "fact" and is in reality, just a lie - sometimes an obvious lie.

You think based off from a bunch of false assumptions and when I did that, I was miserable. Most people I think just deal with the inconsistencies by simply never thinking about them. I mean, fuck, the "news" contradicts themselves all the time, and I used to question my memory when they did that. Thank god for the Internet, because there's other people like me, that archived "news" to prove they contradicted themselves.

I remember, for example, when Saddam Hussein was a trusted friend and ally in the 1980s. I was a kid then, but by 1990, he was an evil killer and there was NO MENTION at all about him being an ally. I remember when the Mujahideen of Afghanistan were allies, but somehow they just magically disappeared and the Taliban took over Afghanistan without a fight and they were EVIL - well the Taliban is the Mujahideen. In Rambo III, Rambo fought on BEHALF of the Mujahideen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambo_III

No fucking kidding.

Either you have to ignore what your government says, or you have to accept your government is lying, CONSTANTLY, or you go nuts trying to reconcile what is falsely claimed and what you know was previously claimed, and what you know happened. It's fine you ignore it, which is what I think you do, you don't think about it, which is fine that you do, but don't call me a conspiracy nutcase just because I think and learn about something you really don't look at in any depth at all, if at all.
142   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 1:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says

Fair enough. I was just saying that I feel the pentagon path / angle looked pretty doable.


I've asked somebody who claimed to be a commercial airline pilot about being able to hit the Pentagon, he claimed he could do it but it's only a single data point, which means statistically the margin of error is 100%.
143   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2021 Apr 9, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don't @ users often, but @Richwicks you are wasting your time. No one is arguing about bitcoin anymore so some user is jumping into other threads to troll.

I don't fully agree with you on everything but that doesn't matter. I'll at least attempt to have a valid conversation with you. Question everything. You're not going to get that in this thread at this point though. I think you know this. I've backed off on the other threads. There's logic and there's lunacy. I'm pretty sure you know what you're dealing with... I'd just engage with others.
144   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 2:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I don't @ users often, but @Richwicks you are wasting your time. No one is arguing about bitcoin anymore so some user is jumping into other threads to troll.


Well, this is a thread about 9/11 essentially, not bitcoin.

WookieMan says
I don't fully agree with you on everything but that doesn't matter.


If you believe I'm wrong about something, feel free to point it out. I can't take offense very easily.

WookieMan says
I'll at least attempt to have a valid conversation with you. Question everything. You're not going to get that in this thread at this point though. I think you know this. I've backed off on the other threads. There's logic and there's lunacy. I'm pretty sure you know what you're dealing with...


I don't try to categorize like that, I think it's actually knowledge/ignorance and gullibility/cynicism. I know people that simply distrust the mainstream narrative, that then go on to believe that 5G is going to kill us all, HAARP makes earthquakes happen, and human beings can be cloned so you can get weird mixtures of people who are skeptical, ignorant, gullible, and cynical all at the same time. A lot of people seem to have a need to trust somebody as an authority. Generally that's the government, sometimes it's religious leaders, sometimes it's just crackpots. When it comes down to it, the only person you should trust is yourself, but you have to always remember the infinite well of ignorance we all have.
145   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 9, 2:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Listen, the only statement I can make with regard to 9/11 is the public has been lied to about what happened. Going into speculation of what precisely was done and how it was done, is pointless speculation. Who cares?

Exactly!

Anybody that doesn't admit the official story is even possible is willfully ignorant or hyping propaganda.
146   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 9, 4:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Anybody that doesn't admit the official story is even possible is willfully ignorant or hyping propaganda.


Exactly.

If the government doesn't need to lie, they wouldn't lie. They would only lie if there was something to hide.

It appears that Mossad was involved with 9/11 because our government is hiding information about their involvement, Saudi Arabia certainly was involved with this, the government lied about that for years, they lied about how WTC7 collapsed because their finite element simulation doesn't match observation, and it seems the government had involvement with the attack on the Pentagon, because it's difficult to believe our military is so fucking stupid, that they would allow their headquarters be hit 1/2 hour after a terrorist attack was underway and they allowed a known (must have been known) hijacked plane to hit their HQ.

People demand you explain to them exactly what happened and come up with a hypothesis - fuck, I don't know, and since I don't know how an intelligence agency betrayal was done exactly which they had 1000's of man hours to plan, I'm crazy not to trust them.

I just know the government is lying and hiding information. They're not trustworthy. It's not up to me to prove exactly how it was done when they are acting extremely suspicious, it's up to the government to prove to me they are telling how it was done, and they are telling the truth and I don't believe they are.

There were suspicious stock market trades shorting airlines - which were never cashed in, they were abandoned, the SEC didn't follow up on it, there were some Israelis photographing themselves when the buildings were burning (and some reports before they were burning) and they have only released a handful of pictures, redacted, with DRASTICALLY reduced quality, they won't release the finite element simulation of WTC7 from NIST, there's no explanation why there was molten metal at ground 0, there's no reasonable explanation on how passports from the supposed hijackers were found, in pristine condition, near ground zero, there's no explanation as to why the Silverman family just happened to not have their daily breakfast at the towers, it's a hell of a coincidence that Silverman increased insurance on the buildings something like 6 months before, there's been no investigation into anything.

If what happened IS what happened, there would be no questions - there would be explanations for everything. If they just said Silverman was dealing with explosive diarrhea for the last week due to food poisoning and hadn't gone to the towers for the last 3 days, it would be something to grasp onto.

They don't even bother. They don't care - as long as enough people accept the lie, they don't give a shit. It's quite probable they want part of the population to know. I don't know, I can't really get into their head, I can attempt to think like a grouptank of sociopaths, but I'm not a grouptank or a sociopath.
147   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 9:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
For some, the cognitive dissonance of 9/11 is too hard to fathom and they put their fingers in their ears and say things like, "you are def too far down the rabbit hole and everything becomes a conspiracy. I wish you all the best." instead of trying to rebut, or even look at the evidence you are showing them.


@WookieMan,
see onvacation reads my comments :) He's "officially" having me on ignore which means he reads my comments when he's not logged in and then comments on them indirectly. Hilarious!

In terms off the 9/11 conspiracy, we have heard pretty crazy, unrealistic stories....What makes the most sense is usually what the majority of smart people believe as well. Radical muslims want us dead, just look at them burning our beautiful flag. Luckily, we have strong US forces who keep us safe!

Isnt it great to have navy seals and drones??!




148   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 9, 9:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

If you believe the US government would kill its own people you should join the jihadists.
The US leaves no man behind, no matter how badly injured. If you mess with us, you have to deal with the consequences of our navy seals. We are superior. Strongest military, best training and next level tech! Jihadists dont stand a chance against our super power.
God bless our troops! I mean, just by looking at jihadists versus our bad ass troops you know who the good guys are, dont you?


149   REpro   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 9, 9:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
If you believe the US government would kill its own people you should join the jihadists.
The US leaves no man behind, no matter how badly injured.

Yes, government do.
How many US solders lost live in Vietnam, Iraq, Afagnistan... For What???????????????? Our Freedom??????? Naive, naive.
150   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 11, 9:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
If you believe the US government would kill its own people you should join the jihadists.


You're naive.

The US did MKUltra. LIke I said, I can't take you seriously. There's plenty of history of the US government violently abusing their citizens, using them as test subjects. Look at how veterans are treated.

I consider you a troll or abysmally ignorant about the history of what the US government has done to its citizens and its servicemen. I don't believe you are as ignorant as you claim to be.

The entire United States is being subjected to a "vaccine" that is mRNA or DNA based, which has never been tested in human beings, and neither are approved by the FDA. The US federal government absolutely doesn't care about the welfare of its citizens.
152   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Apr 11, 10:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Bitcoin says
If you believe the US government would kill its own people you should join the jihadists.


You're naive.


We should remember that the US government is not a single unified thing. There are of course good and bad people in it.

Bad people like Fauci would definitely kill large numbers of people for profit imho, and I think he is actually doing this with his lockdowns and "vaccines".
153   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 12, 3:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_passing_through says
richwicks says
a troll


Possibly, but don't be so certain.

There are a lot of people who just mindlessly chant "USA! USA!" and never address criminal behavior of the state. I expected them to be the browshirts 15 years ago, not these useful idiot communist dupes. They still may be yet.
154   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2021 Apr 12, 4:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Bad people like Fauci would definitely kill large numbers of people for profit imho, and I think he is actually doing this with his lockdowns and "vaccines".

Yup. I don't think we'll ever know the true numbers. People basically not being allowed to work. Then they start substances of some sort. Divorce. Child abuse. Lack of children's education. Foreclosure. Delayed retirement. Business closures.

It will never be admitted even if there's ironclad data, but the reaction has caused more harm than if we just let this fucking virus do its thing. It's not that contagious or dangerous. I'm living proof since giving zero fucks starting in May of 2020. The fear mongering is staggering. When I mention to people what we've done since May they look at me like I should be dead or I'm an enemy to them. Fuck off and grow up.

We're gonna see one last spike and it goes away by June and we should generally have a normal summer with masks in big cities and airports. They'll change the testing protocol at some point and the media won't ever report it. Facebook and Youtube will censor anyone that has valid knowledge of the situation. You'll be crazy if you question anything. But there's nothing stopping government from making covid go away and go away quickly. The "vaccine" or "testing" can change any time the CDC or WHO decides.
155   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 12, 6:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
They'll change the testing protocol at some point

They already have.

If the coup had not put the POTATUS in office the virus would be raging and the cities would be on fire. Look how George Floyd is still being held up as a freedom fighter against racism instead of the felonious thug he is.
156   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 12, 6:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Facebook and Youtube will censor anyone that has valid knowledge of the situation.

They already have.

The MSM is still pushing masking and vaccination as if it is the only way to stop millions of deaths.

Asshoes!
157   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 12, 8:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

On the nights of September 9 and 10, 2001, the comedian George Carlin performed shows at the MGM Grand casino, in Las Vegas, working through material that he planned to use at the taping of his next HBO special, in November. It was going to be called “I Kinda Like It When a Lotta People Die.”

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/george-carlins-shocking-prescience-on-the-nights-before-911
158   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Apr 12, 8:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
WookieMan says
They'll change the testing protocol at some point

They already have.


Yes, the WHO changed PCR amplification test guidance to make it much less likely to return a positive result exactly on POTATUS's inauguration day.

Lo and behold, that was the peak of the scamdemic.
159   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 12, 10:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Everything becomes a conspiracy. 9/11, the vaccines, etc.
What I do believe is that it wont get any easier to obtain guns and ammo in the future....so I am loading up.
In terms of being accused of trolling and being naive.....I dont buy into the fantasy stories that the US government prepped the WTC with explosive charges and that the people who prepped the WTC didnt know anything about it. "Just drop a bag here". Talk to any professional demolition worker....they will tell you this is a huge effort that takes lots of resources, time and effort. When you ask a conspiracy theorists, they can give you an explanation for everything and it gets crazier and crazier the more you ask. The final answer is that you are a troll or naive for asking questions.

Whats far more likely is that some people want to capitalize on their writing skills. Problem is that you wont make much money by writing and selling Hansel & Gretel 2, so you come up with fantasy stories tied to recent events (conspiracy theories).

You should be thankful to live in todays world. I can tell my phone (siri) to turn my yard lights off and I can work 100% from home. Meanwhile our high tech drones and highly skilled snipers keep us safe by eliminating middle easterners (muslim terrorists). This is the best country on earth. We are #1. Be thankful to live here! Its a privilege!

This group of navy seals can take out 100's of jihadists:

160   Kepi   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 12, 11:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
they will tell you this is a huge effort that takes lots of resources, time and effort.


What happened with Building 7 proved this all wrong. It does not take lots of resources, time and effort to bring down a 47 story building. The demolition companies have been ripping people off forever. It does not take miles of cable and thousands of explosive charges and many man hours to accomplish imploding a building.

All it takes is a pretty good sized fire going on one of the lower floors of the building then just wait less than a day. And, presto, the building will collapse into its footprint.

I can't believe someone did not catch on to the demo companies' scam before. All that time and money wasted over the years. So unnecessary.

At least now we know. I am thinking of putting an ad on Las Vegas Craigslist for implosion services just in case someone wants to take down an old casino. I learned everything I need to know from Building 7. I get a little gasoline and light on fire whatever is flammable on a lower floor of the building. Then I wait for perfect collapse.

One day's work. Easy peasy. I am thinking $10,000 fee.
161   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Apr 12, 11:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
This group of navy seals can take out 100's of jihadists:


I heard a good term today. The "banality of evil". It means that evil doesn't think, it just plods on without thinking. No moral consideration is made. Hannah Arendt coined the term, when writing about Adolph Eichmann who she concluded wasn't actually evil, he was just a cog in the machine trying to do the best job he could do.

I give up on trying to get you to think about what you're supporting. You are either incapable of thinking about it, or you're actively just trolling. It's impossible to tell. Many people have very superficial thought and are incapable of realizing they are repeating propaganda.
162   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 12, 12:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Kepi says
The demolition companies have been ripping people off forever. It does not take miles of cable and thousands of explosive charges and many man hours to accomplish imploding a building


Interesting! Can you share details....lets start a demolition business, do it the right way (much faster, barely any cables), and underbid everyone. Lets grab market share and once the established competitors are close to bankruptcy we take them over.

Just for reference, can you tell us which building you have successfully demolished? Not that I don't believe you, but it would be nice to have some proof before we start our business venture.
163   Kepi   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 12, 1:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
Kepi says
The demolition companies have been ripping people off forever. It does not take miles of cable and thousands of explosive charges and many man hours to accomplish imploding a building


Interesting! Can you share details....lets start a demolition business, do it the right way (much faster, barely any cables), and underbid everyone. Lets grab market share and once the established competitors are close to bankruptcy we take them over.

Just for reference, can you tell us which building you have successfully demolished? Not that I don't believe you, but it would be nice to have some proof before we start our business venture.


We now have confirmation. Troll authenticated.

164   Bitcoin   ignore (15)   2021 Apr 12, 6:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Kepi says
Bitcoin says
Kepi says
The demolition companies have been ripping people off forever. It does not take miles of cable and thousands of explosive charges and many man hours to accomplish imploding a building


Interesting! Can you share details....lets start a demolition business, do it the right way (much faster, barely any cables), and underbid everyone. Lets grab market share and once the established competitors are close to bankruptcy we take them over.

Just for reference, can you tell us which building you have successfully demolished? Not that I don't believe you, but it would be nice to have some proof before we start our business venture.


We now have confirmation. Troll authenticated.


How? You made an unrealistic claim, I just asked for validation. I think your statement was BS.
165   socal2   ignore (1)   2021 Apr 12, 7:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Bitcoin says
How? You made an unrealistic claim, I just asked for validation. I think your statement was BS.


I assume he is trolling the 9/11 truthers when he says this below.

Kepi says
What happened with Building 7 proved this all wrong. It does not take lots of resources, time and effort to bring down a 47 story building. The demolition companies have been ripping people off forever. It does not take miles of cable and thousands of explosive charges and many man hours to accomplish imploding a building.

All it takes is a pretty good sized fire going on one of the lower floors of the building then just wait less than a day. And, presto, the building will collapse into its footprint.


The massive commercial airliners full of fuel created some "pretty good sized fires" on multiple floors.
166   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 12, 8:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

socal2 says

The massive commercial airliners full of fuel created some "pretty good sized fires" on multiple floors.

I heard from reputable sources on the internet that thousands of gallons of fuel poured down the elevator into the basement. It blew up the lobby and then started some office fires over at WTC7.

Other sources say it was only hundreds of gallons.

This is why I don't like to argue minutiae on the Internet.
167   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 Apr 12, 8:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WTC7 was classic implosion. They took out the supporting beams and columns and the structure collapsed into a pile of dust and molten steel.

They just blew up the twin towers. I am sure they had a bomb planting patsy ready if people weren't gullible enough to believe the "fire induced collapse" explanation.

Never underestimate peoples gullibility.
168   REpro   ignore (0)   2021 Apr 12, 8:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

socal2 says
The massive commercial airliners full of fuel created some "pretty good sized fires" on multiple floors.


Yes, they are just before hit, get refiled in flight with nota bene low fire temp. kerosene, but steel beams, asbestos, concrete floor, drywalls, metal cabinets, computers, rise temp. close to melting iron point,... interesting. But they miss building 7, what a shame.

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