patrick.net

Does this look like a collapse?

NORTH TOWER EXPLODING

@patrick

Sorry for opening this can of worms again. I think these two videos are pretty good evidence that it was more than two jet planes crashing into the two towers that obliterated the world trade center.

More evidence of the ongoing evil of the powers that are trying to enslave us.

Arabs live in tents. They don't know anything about detonating buildings into their own footprints.

Jack Ruby = Building 3

Onvacation says

Sorry for opening this can of worms again.

No problem. Given that I strongly suspect the "plandemic" to be a deliberate tool to oust Trump, impoverish the middle class, and vastly increase the wealth of billionaires, I am also more inclined to now believe that 9/11 was also planned by the same elites.

In the second video, I could see the ejections of materials from windows beneath collapsing floors above as a result of extreme air pressure. I wonder what the things that look like fireworks are in the dust clouds.

But that top video of WTC7 totally looks like every other deliberate building demolition I've even seen video of. Looks way too clean to not have been planned.

It takes hundreds of man hours and miles of cable to rig a building for implosion. Let alone massive skyscrapers like the WTC buildings. Let alone trying to do it in secret and hiding everything behind walls and leave no evidence.

Are we to really believe no one saw people setting up all these explosives over the course of weeks and months?

Are we to believe that none of the thousands of people needed to pull off this scandal haven’t leaked to the press in 20 years? Democrats and the Media hated Bush nearly as much as Trump - they would be jumping all over this conspiracy if they thought it was remotely plausible.

I am totally open to believing in government conspiracies and corruption, but come on! This shit beggars belief. Don’t make excuses for Islamists!

I went down this rabbit hole years ago and firmly believe this was, no doubt, done by demolition based on engineering and science alone. Now, take into consideration that this then thrust us into war right afterward? This was a massive False Flag.

porkchopexpress says

I went down this rabbit hole years ago and firmly believe this was, no doubt, done by demolition based on engineering and science alone. Now, take into consideration that this then thrust us into war right afterward? This was a massive False Flag.

Which would take an enormous amount of resources, money and people to pull off. I know....all those people involved were shortly killed to eliminate the whistleblower risk.

socal2 says

I am totally open to believing in government conspiracies and corruption, but come on! This shit beggars belief. Don’t make excuses for Islamists!

I bet they will have a simple solution for this one.....all involved people were just killed shortly after this was pulled off, except 1-2 people at the top. Probably Gates and Hillary.

socal2 says

It takes hundreds of man hours and miles of cable to rig a building for implosion. Let alone massive skyscrapers like the WTC buildings. Let alone trying to do it in secret and hiding everything behind walls and leave no evidence.

Are we to really believe no one saw people setting up all these explosives over the course of weeks and months?

Are we to believe that none of the thousands of people needed to pull off this scandal haven’t leaked to the press in 20 years?

Yes. Your statement is the way I am naturally inclined to think. It makes the most sense. Occam's razor and all that. I still can't quite get past that WTC Building 7 stuff yet. As far as I can tell the building, due to some kind of damage, just wound up having a great big fire in it for a short while.

Maybe we need to build better buildings.

And, maybe we can reevaluate what it takes to implode a building.

I copy here what I posted in another thread.

"One important thing we learned from the 9/11 attacks is what happened to WTC Building 7 (a 47 story building that was NOT hit by an airplane and collapsed completely).

Before that building's collapse we did not know that every company that does building implosions was colossally gouging and ripping people off.

All that time and material spent setting up hundreds or thousands of explosive charges and wiring them to explode in just the correct synchronization. Going around the structure weakening structural support in appropriate places to control the collapse. All a scam. All a racket.

The next time some 47 story building needs to be taken down all that needs to be done is gather up some carpet or whatever else is around in the building that will burn. Throw a little gas or something around if you are in a hurry. Set fire to it. It does not need to be in any specific location. Wait less than a day. And, the building will collapse perfectly into its own footprint."

socal2 says

Media hated Bush

Yet the NY Times totally supported his fraudulent war in Iraq.

When I saw Bush supporting Hillary, I knew they were actually on the same team.

Patrick says

socal2 says

Media hated Bush

Yet the NY Times totally supported his fraudulent war in Iraq.

When I saw Bush supporting Hillary, I knew they were actually on the same team.

The NYTimes supported the Iraq War for all of five minutes when emotions were still raw the year after 9/11.

They quickly turned on the war and started pimping Islamist propaganda when they ran Abu Ghraib stories on their front pages for over 40 consecutive days.

Bitcoin says

porkchopexpress says

I went down this rabbit hole years ago and firmly believe this was, no doubt, done by demolition based on engineering and science alone. Now, take into consideration that this then thrust us into war right afterward? This was a massive False Flag.

Which would take an enormous amount of resources, money and people to pull off. I know....all those people involved were shortly killed to eliminate the whistleblower risk.

You don't understand how a conspiracy works. Not all people have to be aware of what they are doing.

When Kennedy was murdered there were MULTIPLE people who had death bed confessions. Do you know why? Because they were working independently, didn't know the other people involved, and were told to shoot at a particular time. They thought they did kill Kennedy. Who actually did the fatal shot? Who knows?

These people involved are not aware of what other people involved are doing. The reason to label it a "conspiracy theory" is so if they ever DO blow they whistle, they won't be believed. That's why you have people like Judy Woods making outrageous claims like "directed energy weapons" were responsible. She may actually believe this, but I doubt it, she is a PhD in engineering, and has no explanation of how such a weapon would work. She's either a dupe or a propagandist. People like her are used to discredit anybody that DOES step forward.

When you later find out that what you were ordered to do turned out to be a horrific crime, and only cutouts gave you orders, and there's a ton of ridiculous bullshit stories about what happened - and you don't fully understand how the crime was pulled off yourself - only your small part in something you didn't realize was going to be a crime (you were just following orders), it's difficult to be a whistleblower.

People who helped overthrow democratic governments for the benefit of US corporations often think they are doing the right thing. They believe the propaganda, they are victims as well. What "whistleblowers" were there for Operation Ajax or PBSuccess - silence is common. Where are the whistleblowers for the Reichstag fire?

I was part of helping create an in information gulag in the United States. I had no idea that corporations would engage in censorship and deplatforming, it was unthinkable to me. My expectation was that the work I did would allow you to communicate to anybody in the world - the precise opposite of what I actually ended up doing. I always pointed out that end-to-end secure communication should be part of the protocol, but strangely my recommendations were ignored. Why isn't email encrypted end to end - it's been around since 1995 but no emailer incorporates it by default. I'm a dupe as well. I'm telling you now though, that all communication you have on a phone or a email is recorded. Does it help to tell you this? Absolutely not. I don't know this for an "absolute fact", I'm saying that it's EASY to record all communications, and not expensive at all - as a result, I guarantee it is done. I'm a cog in the wheel myself and any suggestion I ever gave for privacy was summarily rejected by higher ups.

It's your absolute incredulity that allow the criminals to get away with this.

Facebook just had another "data leak"

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/facebook-data-500m-accounts-found-online-76858417

These aren't real leaks, Facebook itself is most likely responsible for an intentional "leak". It's an excuse to be able to explain how the government has information on you that they otherwise shouldn't have - but they won't ever say they are from the government and the people that blackmail you or whatever, may not even know they work for the government, they may think they work for the mafia or Facebook.

Knowledge is on a need to know basis by the puppet masters. You just don't see any strings. I do.