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just_passing_through says

Rin's recipe with a horse paste twist:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n15.shtml

I'm still positing that sars cov2 is mainly a respiratory virus where it usually does not leave lasting damage (most of the lung damage was from developed pneumonia as confection). However whenever viruses "escape" their infection habitat they can have serious effects, such as high inflammation/clotting in other organs. This is common to many viruses or bacteria and not a unique feature of sars cov2. For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape into the GI tract or other parts of the body (e.g. after Trauma/surgery) they can cause serious symptoms. The goal should be to let the infection play out in the resp. tract while reducing viral load actively.

https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19




It is nothing short of criminal to prohibit doctors from using a life-saving drug.

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

just_passing_through says

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

Right. And there are several streptococcus and other species that live in the mouth and cause great havoc if they escape and cause opportunistic infections in other areas of the body (heart, gi tract etc.). I believe sars cov2 is not much different and should be contained to the upper respiratory tract if possible with medications and general good health.

mell says

I'm still positing that sars cov2 is mainly a respiratory virus

It is... Some people, I think I've heard Malone above say it, think that perhaps the spike protein was engineered to cause clotting etc., I really don't know. Out of my domain.

Naturally I've understood it infects any cells with an ACE-2 receptor. mRNA vaccines on the other hand can potentially go everywhere.

just_passing_through says

Rin's recipe with a horse paste twist:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v17n15.shtml

The only thing I'd change on that web site is the fact that both HCQ and Ivermectin are Rx pharmaceuticals, re-purposed for Covid-19, whereas the Rin Pill, Quercetin (or better yet, Quercetin Phytosome) is an all natural dietary supplement.

There is absolutely nothing that the FDA can do to it but slander it or its vendors from saying that it has any effect against Covid, which is fine because some customers can say, "Not only have my allergies subsided but my PCRs for Covid have been negative for the entire past year". The FDA can't throw that customer in jail, only say that he's naive or stupid and remind the vendor that it can't put testimonials on its shipping label but on its website site as an opinion piece/testimonial.

just_passing_through says

mell says

For example, there are bacteria which are normally found in the mouth region causing no symptoms but when they escape

Those are called opportunistic infections.

See Rin's Allisure Allicin, it's got a synergy, on the antiviral side as an immunomodulatory agent and on the antibacterial side, containing [ though not 100% eliminating ] the growth of bacterial pathogens w/o the side effects of an antibiotic.

Rin says

Not only have my allergies subsided

I wish I could say that; maybe I will, it's only been about 6 weeks for me so far.

Rin says

Allicin

That was something that was commonly yacked about in the molecular genetics lab I worked in during the late 90s.

mell says

Right. And there are several streptococcus and other species

Yup, 'commonly opportunistic pathogens'.

I used to play with those in my 'micro'biology lab class in school. Fun stuff! Get to play with Bunsen burners, douse the bench with EtOH and light it ON FIRE! to sterilize the work area (mol-bio does this as well but by then that's not the cool stuff)

That class smelled like shit some days though. Depending on what we were growing.

just_passing_through says

I wish I could say that; maybe I will, it's only been about 6 weeks for me so far.

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

The former is not very bioavailable and needs all kinds of adjuvants like Bromelain and Olive oil to get any absorption. So for most Dihydrate users, they need to use massive doses like some 2000 to 3000 mg per day to get the same effects as 750-1000 mg of the Phytosome one.

just_passing_through says

Get to play with Bunsen burners, douse the bench with EtOH and light it ON FIRE! to sterilize the work area

I know of one guy in my lab section, who got kicked out of the group, due to such a stunt in front of the TA.

Rin says

I know of one guy in my lab section, who got kicked out of the group, due to such a stunt in front of the TA.

Odd, that is sterilization protocol.

Rin says

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

I have Phytosome.

Rin says

who got kicked out

I probably would have been disciplined at least if it was ever found out I was the guy putting dry ice into micro centrifuge tubes and depositing into the trash can of a co-worker I liked to eff with. When they exploded they'd often hit the ceiling.

Rin says

If you're using Quercetin Dihydrate, drop it, and buy the Quercetin Phytosome.

Dang it I just reordered. Q is getting scarce on the online vitamin sites BTW. If it doesn't specify on the bottle it is Dihydrate do you reckon?

Robert Sproul says

If it doesn't specify on the bottle it is Dihydrate do you reckon?

It should say Quercetin Dihydrate in the ingredient list, not on the label.

just_passing_through says

I have Phytosome.

The ppl I know, who got rid of their allergies, used some 2000 mg of Turmeric w/ bioperine along with 1000 mg of Quercetin.

I eat a little tumeric with eggs (plus pepper and bacon fat) each morning but that much, nor have I tried that high of a Quercetin dose. I'll try it out.

Mmmm, bacon fat. I used to throw it out, but that was insane!

It's tastier than butter, and a "free" byproduct of cooking bacon. And I honestly think it's not that bad for you.

I really like turmeric too. My sister sent me a big container of it and it makes a nice addition to lots of things for the flavor. And if there really is a health benefit, then that's a bonus.

Patrick says

And I honestly think it's not that bad for you.

It isn't. Fat doesn't make you fat, low fat food items do. Shit the store that says fat free or low fat I stay away from.

You need saturated fat for your brain among other things.

Just stay away from polyunsaturated fats - what they've been pushing on us the past 50 years. "vegetable oil" is really "seed oil", full of omega-6 which is highly inflammatory and will fuck up your arteries.

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

Patrick says

I really like turmeric too.

I have a big bin of it but to make it work pharmaceutically it needs to be fresh and mine isn't. Buy the root and grind it yourself and eat it within 2-3 weeks. The sooner the better.

Otherwise it's just adding color and flavor.

just_passing_through says

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

I am a convert to your religion!

They all sound good to me.

I like fresh turmeric too, it's kind of like ginger.

I lost a lot of weight switching to real animal fats and lowering my carbs, my cooking got better and I eat less because I'm satiated quicker and longer. I can actually fast for long periods quite easily now that my body learned to burn fat.

Carb addicts may have a hard time at first until their body is retrained. It takes a while. Fortunately I've always sort of eaten that way so it wasn't hard for me.

Lately I've been eating broccoli sprouts daily. #1 super food. I grow it in mason jars. Check out some of Dr. Rhonda Patrick's videos. She's pretty awesome.

I'm trying to eat nothing with any cane sugar in it for all of September.

It's rather difficult. I think I'm making it up in alcohol.

Oh, and fish oil. I just supplement with that or eat fish. Lately lots of shrimp too to counteract any iodine issues from the broccoli sprouts. I should really start eating smoked oysters for zinc or something.

I still tend to eat fish on Friday, just because it was a thing when I was growing up. And because I like fish.

just_passing_through says

Eat butter too. And olive oil, coconut oil, avacado oil and beef tallow.

Coconut oil is on the good list? I thought is was as bad as vegetable oil. Coconut oil has cooking advantages, so I want it to be healthy.

My dietician wife says coconut oil is fine.
We use it for cooking a fair bit.

It makes good popcorn.

Ghee and clarified butter have a relatively high smoke point.

Find a doctor who will prescribe Ivermectin, HCQ, etc

https://myfreedoctor.com/
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/treatments/how-do-i-get-covid-19-medication/
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/

COVID-ethical pharmacies
https://covid19criticalcare.com/pharmacies/

There's accusations that hospitals in Australia are now treating vaxxed covid patients with Ivermectin, but not unvaxxed.

https://gab.com/Arturo1960/posts/106921705547994992

Evil, murderous swine if this is true.

https://trialsitenews.com/grotesque-conflicts-of-interest-on-nih-ivermectin-non-recommendation/

just_passing_through says

Buy the root and grind it yourself and eat it within 2-3 weeks.

I have an herbalist in Boston do that for me, every month with fresh peppercorn and olive oil.

Got all my covid emergency meds from India, nice mix of the most effective and safe, will go to the !covid! war-chest and last for years. Just in case of an emergency...
Neigh!

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-ivermectin-deworming-hoax---part-ii-eric-clapton-s-human-rights-warning/article_284902bc-14be-11ec-8d43-43e98275cff8.html

On September 10, 2021, Uttarakhand had just 20 new cases in a population of 11.4 million, or about two cases for every million people. They had ZERO new deaths. Goa had 45 cases and two deaths, while Kerala had 25,010 new cases and 177 new deaths.

Other Indian states also decided to go "all-in" on Ivermectin, and they did exceedingly well. So, on September 10, these are the numbers of the other Ivermectin-using Indian states.

This data was compiled by the Johns Hopkins University Center for Systems Science and Engineering – the JHU CSSE.

https://systems.jhu.edu/

On September 10, 2021, Uttar Pradesh, a population of 240 million, saw nine new cases, or about one for every 24 million people. One death. Delhi saw only 36 new cases and ZERO deaths. Bihar, a population of 127 million, saw 12 new cases, or one per 10 million population. ZERO deaths.

In stark contrast, we see Kerala, a population of 34 million people, with 25,010 new cases on September 10, or nearly one per thousand. Deaths are 177 out of the entire country's total of 308. Thus, more than half of all of India's September 10 COVID deaths occurred in Kerala.

This debacle occurred despite Kerala being among the most vaccinated states in all of India. The Chief Minister proudly reports that 93 percent of Kerala's residents over 45 have one vaccination while 50 percent are fully vaccinated.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/kerala-to-complete-vaccination-of-all-above-18-years-by-september-30-cm-pinarayi-vijayan/articleshow/86100022.cms

Like Kerala, the United Kingdom is "all-in" on vaccines and "all-out" against Ivermectin. Notice the remarkable similarity of the United Kingdom COVID graph when compared with Kerala's.

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/r93g4/

Ivermectin and the odds of hospitalization due to COVID-19: evidence from a quasi-experimental analysis based on a public intervention in Mexico City

José Merinoi (i Digital Agency for Public Innovation, Mexico City)Victor Hugo Borja ii (ii, Mexican Social Security Institute)Oliva López, José Alfredo Ochoa iii (iii, Ministry of Health, Mexico City)Eduardo Clark, Lila Petersen, Saul Caballero iv (iv Digital Agency for Public Innovation, Mexico City)

Code: https://github.com/nasaul/paper_ivermectinaData:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VtXKW1IuCm4qRowlotXnTWZlhLoQYYmEsZp7ERUIeAQSummaryObjectiveTo measure the effect of Mexico City’s population-level intervention –an ivermectin-based Medical Kit––in hospitalizations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Methods

A quasi-experimental research design with a Coarsened Exact Matching method using administrative data from hospitals and phone-call monitoring. We estimated logistic-regression models with matched observations adjusting by age, sex, COVID severity, and comorbidities. For robustness checks separated the effect of the kit from phone medical monitoring; changed the comparison period; and subsetted the sample by hospitalization occupancy,

Results

We found a significant reduction in hospitalizations among patients who received the ivermectin-based medical kit; the range of the effect is 52%-76% depending on model specification.ConclusionsThe study supports ivermectin-based interventions to assuage the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on the health system.

http://www.pagina16.com.ar/ivermectina-brindan-resultados-parciales-de-monitoreo-en-el-uso-ampliado-en-pacientes-positivos/

Effectiveness
In the total population analyzed, a positive evolution of Covid-19 disease was observed, with an improvement in related symptoms of 48% and 77% at day 7 and day 14, respectively, after starting treatment. For most symptoms, improvement is observed within the first 48-72 hours after initiation of the Ivermectin protocol treatment regimen.

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