patrick.net

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/how-are-australias-covid-authorities-going-to-explain-away-a-63-drop-in-births/

The key to the medical tyranny that has been imposed on Australians over the last three years is the claim by “authorities,” whether government bureaucrats, politicians, or professional bodies, that they knew the truth about the virus and the so-called “vaccines.” Anyone who questioned that authority was demonized as ignorant, censored, and in some cases attacked or had their career ended. It was a bullying strategy based on the asymmetrical use of doubt: “You are not allowed to doubt us, but we can raise doubts about everything you might think or say – because who are you to ask questions?”

How, then, are Australia’s all-knowing “authorities” going to explain away the scarcely believable drop in Australia’s birth rate that has just been revealed by the Australian Bureau of Statistics? From October to November in 2021, there was a 21 per cent decrease in births (when compared with the average over a 10-year period), and from November to December there was a 63 per cent decrease. December was about nine months after the roll-out of the COVID vaccines.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-8f3

Healthy teen dies in her sleep after getting COVID-19 booster shot
November 9, 2022

A healthy 18-year-old girl from Texas went to sleep on the day she took her Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine. The next day her mother went to wake her up and discovered she had already passed away. According to the teen’s mother Renee, Kayla Rose Lumpkins, who has just started college at the University of Texas, went to bed happy on September 8. “I found her dead in her bed the next morning. She had been sleeping in the same position she always did,” the grieving mother wrote in a social media group. “I am in complete shock. She was not sick. She acted like her normal self.” Renee’s mother just died in December 2021 and she’s still trying to heal from that. “But an 18-year-old? I feel like my life is over,” she lamented and pointed out that her daughter was physically healthy until she received her booster shot. “She had two [vaccines]. Then she had a third one for good measure. I’m telling you all, she was healthy. With her crazy schedule – choir, theater, drill team, morning practices, rehearsals, football game halftime performances, plays, concerts, excelling in her honor dual credit classes and everything else she did, there was no way she was sick. If she was, she wouldn’t have been able to do that,” she said. An autopsy was done and it would take up to 90 days for the results to come out. “We are waiting to find out something. We’re halfway there,” the mother added. Gateway Pundit reported that the mother said in a now-deleted post that she believed her daughter passed away because of the experimental mRNA vaccine. “I posted yesterday about how my absolutely healthy and athletic daughter went to sleep on September 8th and never woke up,” she wrote.

Found her obit:

https://www.williamsfuneral.com/obituary/kayla-lumpkins

Now she's dead.

Looks like Bourla and Pfauci murdered her for money.

Another murder most likely by Bourla and Pfauci:

Callie Ann Marie Nicole Crowell, 18

Miss Callie Ann Marie Nicole Crowell, age 18 of Stuart, VA, passed away Tuesday, November 8, 2022, at UVA Medical Center in Charlottesville. She was a cheerleader and Flag Corps Captain. She was active in the Girl Scouts earning her Bronze, Silver, and Gold Award which earned her the Triumph Award. She studied at the Patrick County Dancing Arts Center and was attending the University of Virginia on a full academic scholarship.

No cause of death reported.

https://tinyurl.com/4z2yr9jn

UVA students are "strongly encouraged" to get "vaccinated":
While not required, all students, full-time and part-time UVA faculty and staff, including those working remotely, are strongly encouraged to receive their primary series of COVID-19 vaccine and booster doses when eligible per CDC recommendation.

https://coronavirus.virginia.edu/faqs/students

https://www.moodyfuneralservices.com/obituaries/callie-crowell

Patrick says

Found her obit:

Friendly (and probably needless) reminder to everybody - don't bother the family, don't contact them.

Anecdotal evidence should remain that way.

richwicks says

Anecdotal evidence should remain that way.

Just doing a little due diligence, proving that such a person used to be alive and now is not.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/myocarditispericarditis-anaphylaxis

“We reported two rare cases of possible mRNA-1273 vaccine-induced acute encephalitis, including clinical manifestations, laboratory characteristics, and management; inaccurate diagnosis or other diagnostic delays in cases of vaccine-induced acute encephalitis may have devastating and potentially life-threatening consequences for patients.”

SOURCE:

COVID-19-booster vaccine-induced encephalitis

“We present a case of encephalitis after a booster shot with the Moderna COVID-19 (mRNA-1273) vaccine in a 48-year-old man. The patient was admitted to the emergency department because of behavioral changes.”

SOURCE:

A case of encephalitis following COVID-19 vaccine

“The first case of encephalitis following coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccination. Our patient was a 46-year-old Japanese woman who presented with acute onset diplopia. Subsequent magnetic resonance imaging revealed brain stem encephalitis that was rapidly responsive to high dosage steroid therapy and completely improved.”

SOURCE:

Post-Vaccinal Encephalitis with Early Relapse after BNT162b2 (COMIRNATY) COVID-19 Vaccine: A Case Report

“The case of a 72-year-old man who received the first dose of the BNT162b2 (COMIRNATY) vaccine against COVID-19 on 18 May 2021, and the second dose on 9 September 2021. One day after receiving the first dose, he cursed with malaise, headache, fever, confusion, aggressiveness, and gait alterations.”

SOURCE:

ACUTE ENCEPHALOPATHY AFTER BNT162B2 COVID-19 VACCINATION: A CASE REPORT AND LITERATURE REVIEW

“We report here the case of a 14-year-old girl who developed acute encephalopathy-like symptoms nine days after receiving the first dose of the BNT162b2 (mRNA) vaccine. She initially experienced high fever, headaches, and drowsiness and then developed generalized tonic-clonic seizures that progressed to status epilepticus.”

SOURCE:

A Possible Case of Autoimmune Encephalitis After mRNA COVID-19 Booster Vaccine: A Case Report

“a case report of a 75-year-old male patient who presented on the second day after receiving the Moderna Bivalent mRNA COVID-19 booster vaccine with abrupt onset behavioral changes and global aphasia with no focal deficits.”

Myocarditis after vaccination, firm data
Dr. John Campbell

Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021 (25 January)

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...

JAMA. 2022;327(4):331-340. doi:10.1001/jama.2021.24110

Importance

Vaccination against COVID-19 provides clear public health benefits,

but vaccination also carries potential risks.

The risks and outcomes of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are unclear.

To describe reports of myocarditis and the reporting rates after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination in the US.

Descriptive study

Reports of myocarditis to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ens...

After mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine administration

Between December 2020 and August 2021 in

n = 192,405,448 older than 12 years of age in the US

During the analytic period

BNT162b2 vaccine, 12 years and older

mRNA-1273 vaccine, 18 years and over

Exposures

Vaccination with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) or mRNA-1273 (Moderna)

Main Outcomes and Measures

Expected rates of myocarditis by age and sex were calculated using 2017-2019 claims data.

For persons younger than 30 years of age, medical record reviews and clinician interviews were conducted to describe clinical presentation, diagnostic test results, treatment, and early outcomes.

Results

Among 192,405,448 persons

Receiving a total of 354,100, 845 mRNA vaccines

1,991 reports of myocarditis to VAERS

1,626 met the case definition of myocarditis

Of those with myocarditis

Median age, 21 years (IQR, 16-31 years)

Median time to symptom onset, 2 days (IQR, 1-3 days)

Males

Comprised 82% of myocarditis cases

Reporting rates for cases of myocarditis

Within 7 days after COVID-19 vaccination,

exceeded the expected rates of myocarditis across multiple age and sex strata

Rates of myocarditis were highest after the second vaccination dose

Adolescent males aged 12 to 15 years

70.7 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine

(One case per 14,144 vaccinations)

Males aged 16 to 17 years

105.9 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine

(One case per 9,442 vaccinations)

Males aged 18 to 24 years

52.4 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine

(One case per 19,083 vaccinations)

56.3 per million doses of the mRNA-1273 vaccine

(One case per 17,761 vaccinations)

Myocarditis in the under 30s

826 cases of myocarditis, who had detailed clinical information available

Of these 826 cases of myocarditis

792 of 809 (98%) had elevated troponin levels

569 of 794 (72%) had abnormal electrocardiogram results

223 of 312 (72%) had abnormal cardiac magnetic resonance imaging results

Hospital data

784 of 813 (96%) were hospitalized

577 of 661 (87%) had resolution of presenting symptoms by hospital discharge

Most common treatment

Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs 589 of 676 (87%).

7.26 + 105.86 = 113.12

Expected, 1.34

113.12
= 84.4
1.34

Supplement

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/conte...

CDC’s case definition of probable myocarditis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1Xm1uaedU

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHWEjo5r6A4Oy8ZD8eABQ_cqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowvIaCCzDnxf4CMN2F8gU?uo=CAUiANIBAA&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
Blood clots, should be booster shot.

My Mother inlaw is here. She just took her 5th shot on Election day. She is showing no signs of diminished health.

The serious effects are about 1 in 800, which is still about a thousand times too high to be considered safe.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/hugh_mankind/status/1590733326553600003

New World Odor™
@hugh_mankind
Nov 10
BMJ's editor Dr. Peter Doshi raises alarming questions About Safety Concerns

“Pfizer and Moderna trial data are both showing a clear signal of increased risk of serious adverse events among the vaccinated”

https://sukwan.substack.com/p/so-what-happened-to-the-pfizer-vaccine

What does it take to really stop the shots and prosecute those responsible? I think we have to go back to the trial data. If the rate of serious adverse events was 1 in 800 in the Pfizer trial, then they would know that their product would cause material harm to millions of people once it was rolled out to so much of the world’s population. Pfizer almost certainly intentionally kept sample sizes very low, threw people out of the analysis, and of course unblinded the study two years before it was over, eliminating the placebo group.

A single death or serious adverse reaction in a clinical trial would need to be reported and extrapolated out to the entire target population this intervention is meant for. That is done to look for rare signals, but the damages can be calculated out. In the Pfizer children’s arm, for example, one 12 year old girl, Maddie de Garay, suffered disability and became wheelchair bound. Pfizer classified her injury as abdominal pain, because otherwise the rate of the jab causing permanent disability would have to be set to 1 in 1200 (the size of the study arm), which is insane for an illness posing statistically no risk to the age group. Pfizer would do anything to hide the bodies of those who might have died or been severely long term injured from the jabs. I speculated on that myself regarding a missing VAERS report many months ago...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35699955/

Conclusions and relevance: In this self-controlled case series, there was an increased rate of hospital contacts because of coagulation disorders and cerebrovascular disease, especially for thrombocytopenia and cerebral venous thrombosis, following vaccination with AZD1222. Although increased rates of several thromboembolic and thrombocytopenic outcomes following BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccination were observed, these increases were less than the rates observed after AZD1222, and sensitivity analyses were not consistent. Confirmatory analysis on the 2 mRNA vaccines by other methods are warranted.

https://journalnow.com/michael-gerson-vaccine-resisters-are-not-heroes/article_82177992-2ddf-11ec-a0d9-cb09b4b8cee8.html

How it started:

https://journalnow.com/michael-gerson-vaccine-resisters-are-not-heroes/article_82177992-2ddf-11ec-a0d9-cb09b4b8cee8.html

Michael Gerson: Vaccine resisters are not heroes

How it's going:

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/michael-gerson-post-columnist-and-bush-speechwriter-on-9-11-dies-at-58-154034757561

Medicine and hospitals as gaols and execution chambers continues, now with the participation of psychiatry to medicate the truth tellers out of their minds.
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/42048

Patrick says

The serious effects are about 1 in 800, which is still about a thousand times too high to be considered safe.

Beyond that, it doesn't even work. Witnessing it right now with the wife. Only went the two shot route. She's maybe been awake 8-10 hours since yesterday morning.

Mind you I'm an insomniac, but usually when I'm sick I lay in bed all day basically. It's rough having covid, but being unvaccinated I'm doing better than my wife. To me it's not a 1 in 800 chance that's worth it to get vaccinated. And that's assuming reporting is even accurate. I've won scratch lotto tickets with those odds. Odds of me dying from it currently for my age is probably 1 in 1,000 and maybe 1 in 10,000.

We still don't know long term side effects after all these booster shots either. Vaccines are long term trials and we're still in the infancy of it.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/tv-presenter-jonnie-irwin-has-6-months

A British Olympic swimmer-turned-actress says she was nearly killed by a work-mandated Covid-19 vaccine, and that her debilitating side effects were ignored by the National Health Service (NHS). In a testimonial appearing in an Epoch Times documentary titled, “Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion,” Genevieve Florence, 24, details how her life took a turn for the worse after she landed her first big acting gig, which required her to be double-jabbed. “The industry required me to be double-vaccinated to work on films,” Florence described, adding, “I immediately regretted it soon as she put it in my arm. I just thought, ‘Well, what have I done?'” In the weeks that followed, Florence who previously competed in the European Olympics representing TeamGB began suffering debilitating headaches that prevented her from being able function normally.

“Symptoms after my first Pfizer jab: inability to control my body temperature and heart rate, agonising pain in my head that made the room spin, exhaustion, debilitating brain fog, chest pain, shaking, burning sensations. I couldn’t walk in a straight line, couldn’t walk properly,” Florence documented on Twitter last month. “I couldn’t do anything,” she admitted in the documentary. “It was like someone was actually inside my skull, like pushing out. I can’t explain how awful it was. And it was I was dizzy. I was literally crawling.” Recalling fears the symptoms could be permanent, Florence broke down in tears describing how she required assistance to perform normal everyday activities. “I really thought my life was over,” she sobbed. “I couldn’t even cook food. I couldn’t even get up. I couldn’t take care of myself. My mother came by twice a week to change my bedsheets, do a food shop for me, and clean my house. I couldn’t do anything at all.” To add insult to vaccine injury, Florence explained the NHS did not take her seriously. “It was the most terrifying experience to be told that what’s going on with you is psychological and that it’s not physical when you’re in physical pain,” Florence said.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/olympic-swimmer-24-injured-by-pfizer-covid-jab-i-couldnt-function-i-wanted-to-end-my-life/

Jackie “O” Henderson has announced that she’s taking a break from radio for health reasons. The shock announcement comes just days after she and KIIS FM co-host Kyle Sandilands defeated Ben Fordham to top Sydney’s latest round of breakfast radio ratings. Jackie, 47, shared the news on Monday that she had been struggling to recover since contracting Covid-19 earlier this year and had been advised by her doctor to take extended leave allow her body some time to rest.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6cx2tu

Jackie “O” was "vaccinated":
Jackie O overcomes hesitation and gets AstraZeneca vaccine on air
August 4, 2021

Jackie ‘O’ Henderson is the latest high-profile media personality to get a COVID-19 vaccination and encourage others to do the same. Henderson’s co-host Kyle Sandilands is already fully vaccinated with the Pfizer jab. “I’m fully vaccinated on Pfizer, because of white privilege,” he said on air. Henderson, meanwhile, indicated she was sick of waiting for that vaccine to become available to her “I am on a waiting list for Pfizer, but I just figured that AstraZeneca why not take it?,” she said “I would rather get the vaccination now because I’m worried that COVID’s out there and this strain is a bad one,” she added.

https://radiotoday.com.au/jackie-o-astrazeneca-vaccine-covid/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-03/research-unexplained-cardiac-arrest-young-australians/101423248

Researchers investigate 'frightening' numbers and causes of cardiac arrest in younger Australians

What on earth could it be?

I doubt it could be true globally, though it is true in Alberta.

Patrick says

What on earth could it be?

Climate Change and Toxic Masculinity. I mean, what else was pushed in large doses in the past 2 years that it could be?

Shouldn't we change the nomenclature to 'fully poisoned'?

Woke up early. Still have some shitty symptoms. Was hoping for improvement. It's really making me weak and we still have 3 kids, laundry, making dinners, etc. so can't just lay in bed all day. I think I may have fucked my back up kind of falling down the stairs and catching the railing to stop me. That's how weak and fatigued I am, but I still cannot sleep, but couldn't do that before covid. I think 6 hours since Saturday.

I still don't regret not taking the vaccine though. Of the 8 or so flus I've had over the years this is middle of the pack so far. Slightly worried whatever strain I have might linger and bigger concern is my BP. It's been pretty high where I get flush in the face for like 30 minutes but then it calms down. I also haven't eaten since Saturday morning. I bit a slice of pizza and spit it out last night. Might have been bad pizza or nausea.

It would be totally anecdotal but our symptoms literally kicked in within minutes of each other. Was weird. So interested to see if she recovers faster due to the vaccine. I think her symptoms are worse than mine but there's no way to know that. Given it's Thanksgiving (cancelled..) week, I could handle another week of symptoms. Would just be annoying.

WookieMan says

I still cannot sleep, but couldn't do that before covid. I think 6 hours since Saturday.

Try some melatonin. It's NOT addictive, but allows you to sleep. It doesn't work for everybody, but it worked for me. Once I got back into a regular sleep pattern, I didn't need it.

Took about a month before I didn't need it anymore. First couple weeks I experienced deep dreams.

richwicks says

WookieMan says

I still cannot sleep, but couldn't do that before covid. I think 6 hours since Saturday.

Try some melatonin. It's NOT addictive, but allows you to sleep. It doesn't work for everybody, but it worked for me. Once I got back into a regular sleep pattern, I didn't need it.

Took about a month before I didn't need it anymore. First couple weeks I experienced deep dreams.

I say Indica and forget it!

@wookieman
Your symptoms sound very close to mine when I had it in January for the first time. Sickest I’ve been in forever. But four days and I kicked it, you can feel it when you turn the corner and suddenly feel more normal. I also had no appetite for about three days.
It’s just first Covid, dude. And it sounds like you’re almost done. I haven’t been reinfected since then, although my kids did. Wife and I got it good and since then have been immune!

Shaman says

I say Indica and forget it!

You mean cannabis? I have NEVER been able to sleep when stoned. It doesn't slow my brain down, it forces me to be creative while simultaneously not being able to do detailed thinking. I generally end up reading a book or doing some sort of research when I get stoned.

A friend of mine thinks I must be filled with Neanderthal DNA as a result. Apparently Ozzy Osborne has a similar reaction as this. Cannabis and sleeping don't mix. I ONCE did mushrooms, and I was a mental mess for 8 hours. All I could obsess about is how I was totally incapacitated and I couldn't trust any of my sensory input.

richwicks says

Try some melatonin.

Melatonin does make me sleep, but often gives me nightmares, so usually not worth it.

Melatonin is amazing in that just a nibble from a 3mg pill is enough. A bottle of those pills is a lifetime supply for me.

Benadryl also works, but too well. Then I have a really hard time waking up in the morning.

Alcohol works at first, but then I wake up a 3am with a headache.

Simply having less coffee is the most effective sleep aid for me, but then life is less interesting.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/JamesfWells/status/1587382117260038145#m

James Freeman
@JamesfWells
Nov 1
'@ABridgen highlights the correlation between vaccine uptake and excess deaths across the world

If GOV doesn't act, it is COMPLICIT in the death of thousands of young Brits

WookieMan says

Woke up early. Still have some shitty symptoms. Was hoping for improvement. It's really making me weak and we still have 3 kids, laundry, making dinners, etc. so can't just lay in bed all day. I think I may have fucked my back up kind of falling down the stairs and catching the railing to stop me. That's how weak and fatigued I am, but I still cannot sleep, but couldn't do that before covid. I think 6 hours since Saturday.

I still don't regret not taking the vaccine though. Of the 8 or so flus I've had over the years this is middle of the pack so far. Slightly worried whatever strain I have might linger and bigger concern is my BP. It's been pretty high where I get flush in the face for like 30 minutes but then it calms down. I also haven't eaten since Saturday morning. I bit a slice of pizza and spit it out last night. Might have been bad pizza or nausea.

It would be totally anecdotal but our symptoms literally kicked in within minutes of each other. Wa...

I'm not sure this is covid ;) I was sick for 2-3 weeks (delta), waited 4 weeks to do any form of exercise, and I slept 12 hours straight for 10 days in a row. It wasn't particularly gruesome and I kept mostly working, but sleeplessness and covid are mutually exclusive imo, nightsweats lasted 4-6 weeks. Never slept that long and that well in the past 20 years ;)

https://ashmedai.substack.com/p/21-surveys-of-side-effects-following

21 Surveys of Side Effects Following Vaccination Showing Shocking Rates of SEVERE Adverse Events

https://docbrown77.substack.com/p/how-bad-is-the-omicron-vaccine-with

mell says

I'm not sure this is covid ;) I was sick for 2-3 weeks (delta), waited 4 weeks to do any form of exercise, and I slept 12 hours straight for 10 days in a row. It wasn't particularly gruesome and I kept mostly working, but sleeplessness and covid are mutually exclusive imo, nightsweats lasted 4-6 weeks. Never slept that long and that well in the past 20 years ;)

I don't know what to say man, tested positive twice at the resort and so did my wife Saturday morning. It was a group trip for my wife's 40th. 6 people in our group of 15 got it. 2 of the friends were urgent care nurses and they always bring a shitload of medical supplies, at least compared to my zero, lol.

I don't know, everyone experiences it different. One of the nurse's husband got it back in January (vaccinated) and didn't even notice anything. He is one of the 6 and he's having similar symptoms that you mention. His are still going. Mine have basically totally subsided at this point. Slight runny nose and dry cough (occasionally) which is common for me this time of year. I also have minor allergies, so it's not a big deal.

My conclusion from all this is the vaccine 100% doesn't work. In this tiny sample those vaccinated are staying sick longer. All other 5. That's a 100% fail rate if my symptoms are the baseline from kicking in to ending.

I've brought this up before. I believe there's an element of embarrassment by a lot of people that have taken the vaccine and still got covid. No one in our party went to the doctor. No one, as in medical field, is tracking any of their symptoms. Length. This is how most people handle covid. And if they do go, I'm not certain if docs are matching cases to whether you were vaccinated or not.

Another thing. We were at an AI resort. Saturday we flew out at 7:05pm, so we had breakfast and lunch, and I was like fuck it I have covid. So I drank a pretty good amount before our transfer arrived. Got home around midnight, I think posted here and had two more beers. Sunday night I had 3 or 4. I did start hitting the zinc Sunday, but I wonder if there's any correlation with having alcohol in your bloodstream? Seems opposite of what you should do, but who knows.

I have insomnia, so 12 hours sleep isn't gonna happen unless I get a very serious disease. I haven't gotten more than 6 in probably 10 years. This is why I wonder how in the world CDC or anyone really knows anything about this virus. They're not getting data on my experience. Is being awake more with a higher heart rate better than a sleeping/resting heart rate? And how does studying this work?

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just intrigued by the differences in all six of reactions of our group. Tin foil hat stuff, but was the vaccine designed to keep you sick longer? Keep you buying OTC fever reducers/pain reliever, Nyquil or prescribed drugs. We have a group text going and we're all talking multiple times a day how were feeling. We all got it at a similar time with symptoms kicking in at the same time. It's kind of decent little micro study of covid to be honest. 3 of the vaccinated had covid once before, so apparently no immunity for them. I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

WookieMan says

mell says

I'm not sure this is covid ;) I was sick for 2-3 weeks (delta), waited 4 weeks to do any form of exercise, and I slept 12 hours straight for 10 days in a row. It wasn't particularly gruesome and I kept mostly working, but sleeplessness and covid are mutually exclusive imo, nightsweats lasted 4-6 weeks. Never slept that long and that well in the past 20 years ;)

I don't know what to say man, tested positive twice at the resort and so did my wife Saturday morning. It was a group trip for my wife's 40th. 6 people in our group of 15 got it. 2 of the friends were urgent care nurses and they always bring a shitload of medical supplies, at least compared to my zero, lol.

I don't know, everyone experiences it different. One of the nurse's husband got it back in January (vaccinated) and didn't even notice anything. He is one of the 6 and he's having similar sympt...

For sure the jab doesn't work, this may be proof test covid has mutated into an even more harmless cold virus with omicron as expected, half of your plight here is probably from boozing amd partying, a cold combined with booze and party can be nasty. That being said, hot brandy/dark rum and tea, and possibly a strong unadulterated weed body rub may work wonders

mell says

this may be proof test covid has mutated into an even more harmless cold virus with omicron as expected, half of your plight here is probably from boozing amd partying, a cold combined with booze and party can be nasty.

Been texting with the vaccinated this morning. They're all still feeling really shitty. I'm good. One variable is vaccine. Another is any meds they're talking. One is a nurse already, they believe they're doctors as all nurses generally do, not that I trust doctors either. I told them zinc is when my symptoms turned the corner and it was relatively quickly. I only felt like shit for 2-1/2 days.

Not sure if any one of them listened. I took so little as well. Whatever. Gave advice for a OTC cough drop with zinc (Cold Ezz). Only took 2 or 3 Sunday. Monday started rough, but by night I was good. This morning I'm 100%. Pulled back to my regular supplements. A little weak after 5 days of partying, getting covid sitting on my ass for 3 more days, but I can do all my normal things.

WookieMan says

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just intrigued by the differences in all six of reactions of our group. Tin foil hat stuff, but was the vaccine designed to keep you sick longer? Keep you buying OTC fever reducers/pain reliever, Nyquil or prescribed drugs. We have a group text going and we're all talking multiple times a day how were feeling. We all got it at a similar time with symptoms kicking in at the same time. It's kind of decent little micro study of covid to be honest. 3 of the vaccinated had covid once before, so apparently no immunity for them. I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

What you're observing (jabbed people being sick longer) is what the immunologists call "original antigenic sin." The body produces antibodies from T-cells. These T-cells are continually created by the body, and lots of them are different in random ways. When you get an infection, the T-cells producing the effective antibodies multiply, and your body now has adequate immune response to the pathogen du jour. Other T-cells which are not producing effective antibodies stay relatively inactive and eventually die to make space for the effective T-cells.

The problem with the jab is that it stimulates a massive T-cell response to produce antibodies to a particular spike protein. There are virtually no other T-cells available if another different pathogen infects you. Your reserves of T-cells have been temporarily depleted; in the meantime, the new pathogen runs rampant until a new population of T-cells, created randomly, grows large enough to produce antibodies for the new pathogen.

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

Satan smiles.. Truth can only be used as a last resort.

stereotomy says

WookieMan says

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just intrigued by the differences in all six of reactions of our group. Tin foil hat stuff, but was the vaccine designed to keep you sick longer? Keep you buying OTC fever reducers/pain reliever, Nyquil or prescribed drugs. We have a group text going and we're all talking multiple times a day how were feeling. We all got it at a similar time with symptoms kicking in at the same time. It's kind of decent little micro study of covid to be honest. 3 of the vaccinated had covid once before, so apparently no immunity for them. I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

What you're observing (jabbed people being sick longer) is what the immunologists call "original antigenic sin." The body produces antibodies from T-cells. These T-cells are continually created by the body, and lots of them are different in random ways. When you get an infection,...

That and ADE is also a real possibility, given how quickly the virus mutates. Antibodies meant to neutralize the virus dock on and wait for macrophage to eat them but instead the virus will infect the unsuspecting cleanup crew because it shifted its protein surface slightly enough to still fit the antibody but not to become incapacitated by it. Double whammy

stereotomy says

The problem with the jab is that it stimulates a massive T-cell response to produce antibodies to a particular spike protein. There are virtually no other T-cells available if another different pathogen infects you. Your reserves of T-cells have been temporarily depleted; in the meantime, the new pathogen runs rampant until a new population of T-cells, created randomly, grows large enough to produce antibodies for the new pathogen.

Ah, I never got this part before.

B-cells produce antibody, or, more correctly, they mature into plasma cells which produce antibodies. Helper T cells (CD4 T cells) interact with B cells to stimulate them to develop into antibody producing cells. Immune repertoire is quite an amazing thing. Due to centuries of evolution and genetic recombinations via mating, you have B cells and T cells that can recognize somewhere on the order 10∧10 to 10∧11 unique antigenic determinants.

"The surface immunoglobulin that serves as the B-cell antigen receptor (BCR) has two roles in B-cell activation. First, like the antigen receptor on T cells, it transmits signals directly to the cell's interior when it binds antigen (see Section 6-1). Second, the B-cell antigen receptor delivers the antigen to intracellular sites where it is degraded and returned to the B-cell surface as peptides bound to MHC class II molecules (see Chapter 5). The peptide:MHC class II complex can be recognized by antigen-specific armed helper T cells, stimulating them to make proteins that, in turn, cause the B cell to proliferate and its progeny to differentiate into antibody-secreting cells."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK27142/

stereotomy says

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

Given it's Turkey day coming up. We were likely infected last Friday at absolute latest, may have been Thursday night at the discoteca, lol. Meaning Thursday by CDC guidelines was day 0, my wife "should" be in the clear to not infect others by this Thursday, right? And I know you can't say definitively but her symptoms are rough, but has had no urge to visit a doc. So I'd peg it as a mild case. Symptoms do no necessarily mean it's transmissible after 5-7 days of knowing you were infected is my question.

We're just trying to figure out if we should cancel. Our kids were all sick as well while we were in Mexico. So there's a chance we had it when we went, just took longer for us and we passed it to our friends. Ultimately I don't think anyone is avoiding it this holiday season. Glad I got it out of the way and mine was super mild. Gonna test tonight and see my status. I feel fine though.

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