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Vaccine passports are not about preventing viral transmission

By Al_Sharpton_for_President follow Al_Sharpton_for_President   2021 Aug 3, 6:14am 1,362 views   53 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


Iceland, Gibraltar (entirely vaccinated, 3rd highest infections in Europe) and Israel, let alone high profile if anecdotal evidence.

These vaccines, while reducing severe symptoms, do not appear even to reduce transmission. The sole rationale for vaccine passports has evaporated.

Social distanciation and masks are back in one the most vaccinated nations of the world: Iceland.

Yesterday, 82% of the new cases were fully vaccinated.

https://thetruereporter.com/highly-vaccinated-iceland-gibraltar-destroy-covid-19-vaccine-passport-narrative/

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3   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 7, 7:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@patrick - Just noticed the pinned thing at the top. I'd tread lightly on this CDC card thing. You're promoting activity deemed a felony if caught. It's one thing for one of us to promote doing it, but you're a known commodity. Be careful is all I'll say. We're in weird times.
4   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 7, 7:20am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote          

whats the source for these charts? ive looked and couldnt find it.

how do you know these arent fake stats?
5   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 7, 9:48am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote          

WookieMan says
@patrick - Just noticed the pinned thing at the top. I'd tread lightly on this CDC card thing. You're promoting activity deemed a felony if caught. It's one thing for one of us to promote doing it, but you're a known commodity. Be careful is all I'll say. We're in weird times.

Agreed.

On top of that forging the papers gives implicit consent to the passport. If everyone goes around with real and fake passports the government will be forced to go to more extreme methods of vaccine verification like smart phone apps, microchips, or tattoos.

For your safety.
6   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 7, 9:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

"If we don't hang together we shall certainly hang individually."

The firesmoke sets a nice tone to dystopia, don't you think?
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 7, 10:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Onvacation says
For your safety.



Seems like freedom of speech to me.

But then, Biden has just blatantly disregarded the Supreme Court on the eviction moratorium, so violation of the Constitution seems to be fine with Biden.
8   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 7, 10:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

CBOEtrader says
whats the source for these charts? ive looked and couldnt find it.

how do you know these arent fake stats?


@CBOEtrader

Probably related to this:

https://patrick.net/post/1340488/2021-08-05-95-of-the-severe-patients-in-israel-are

https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1423322271503028228#m

"95% of the severe patients are vaccinated".
"85-90% of the hospitalizations are in Fully vaccinated people."
9   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 7, 10:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says

"95% of the severe patients are vaccinated".
"85-90% of the hospitalizations are in Fully vaccinated people."

If everybody is vaccinated of course only the vaccinated contract the disease!

Oh wait...
10   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 7, 11:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Bernie's Tweets
@BernieSpofforth
19h
Italians burning their proof of vaccination passes.

They refuse to comply with the creation of a two tier society, one that doesn’t protect anyone, it simply discriminates.

#NoVaccinePassports #COVID19


https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1423958763007053824#m
11   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 7, 11:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          


Larry Sanger @lsanger 7h
If the government really put your welfare above corporate interests, they would have made a one-time lump payment for the formula for the production of these all-important vaccines, which would then be made public.
13   noobster   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 8, 6:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Onvacation says
WookieMan says
@patrick - Just noticed the pinned thing at the top. I'd tread lightly on this CDC card thing. You're promoting activity deemed a felony if caught. It's one thing for one of us to promote doing it, but you're a known commodity. Be careful is all I'll say. We're in weird times.

Agreed.

On top of that forging the papers gives implicit consent to the passport. If everyone goes around with real and fake passports the government will be forced to go to more extreme methods of vaccine verification like smart phone apps, microchips, or tattoos.

For your safety.


Yep, it's a trap. Don't fall for it. Tell everyone you know not to fall for it. They would love to have a federal electronic database of your medical records. This would finalize it. They've been working towards it since ACA.

Ever notice that all doctors notes are electronic? I forget how exactly, but somehow feds forced doctors hands on this. I think it was by withholding some payment of Medicaid/Medicare patients, until the practice went electronic.
14   noobster   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 8, 6:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says

Larry Sanger @lsanger 7h
If the government really put your welfare above corporate interests, they would have made a one-time lump payment for the formula for the production of these all-important vaccines, which would then be made public.


Yep, my thoughts exactly.
15   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 8, 6:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

noobster says
They would love to have a federal electronic database of your medical records


They already have this . It’s far more advanced and complete for Medicare recipients, but it’s there. https://bluebutton.cms.gov/

“ Medicare beneficiaries can allow access to their data, which can improve data accuracy and efficiency over manual data entry. Faster, more accurate data can lead to better service recommendations and health outcomes for beneficiaries.”
16   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 8, 11:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/did-cdc-director-just-accidentally-admit-vaccination-passports-are-futile

There is no evidence that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are asymptomatic because of the vaccine. There are likely just as many asymptomatic non-vaccinated carriers. The data shows an equally distributed infection rate regardless of vaccination rate, which is simultaneously admitted by Direcor Walensky, which, as an outcome, is an admission that undercuts the entire argument for compulsory vaccines.

The reverse is also evident in the data. There are just as many vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick), as there are un-vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick). The percentage of vaxxed and non-vaxxed people hospitalized it identical to the vaxxed/non-vaxxed population around the hospital.

In regional populations with extremely high vaccination rates, the COVID infection rate continues unabated.

The percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized is identical to the percentage of people vaccinated in the community.

In Gibraltar, 99% of the population vaccinated; COVID infection rate climbs. In Iceland over 75% of population vaccinated; infection rate climbs. Singapore and Israel show the same thing [Data Sets Here]. So what value is the vaccination passport?
18   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 13, 7:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/san-francisco-vaccine-mandate-breed-requires-full-covid-vaccination-for-indoor-activities.html
San Francisco requires full Covid vaccination for indoor entertainment, including restaurants, gyms

San Francisco on Thursday became the first major U.S. city requiring patrons and employees to provide proof of full vaccination to enter restaurants, gyms, bars and entertainment venues.

Yet still another edict that will cause people to take their business outside the city limits.
19   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Aug 13, 8:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

That's unconstitutional racist!
But will stop shoplifters dead in their tracks!
21   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 13, 9:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

zzyzzx says
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/san-francisco-vaccine-mandate-breed-requires-full-covid-vaccination-for-indoor-activities.html
San Francisco requires full Covid vaccination for indoor entertainment, including restaurants, gyms

San Francisco on Thursday became the first major U.S. city requiring patrons and employees to provide proof of full vaccination to enter restaurants, gyms, bars and entertainment venues.

Yet still another edict that will cause people to take their business outside the city limits.


Exactly.

This is an old game on the East Coast - you intentionally destroy an area, and once it's destroyed, buy up all the land on the cheap, then stop destroying it.

This is commonly done by withdrawing police protection from an area. You let a neighborhood to become a drug infested shithole, and once all the non criminals give up and move out, you buy up all the land, then enforce the law finally, and drive all the criminals out. Then make a profit.

You have to stop thinking of the government as being incompetent - they are very competent, and they know precisely what they are doing. The reason that there's a black lesbian mayor that looks like she got her head caught in a meat grinder isn't only because any criticism of her can be "well, you're a homophobe / sexist / hate ugly people" - not other reason, she's entirely a figure head.
23   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 13, 11:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

It's a war, not a disease. Vaccines are the bullets, and vaccine passports are the white surrender flags.
24   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 22, 5:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/healthcare-workers-pack-hearing-to-support-bill-to-ban-vaccine-mandates-in-michigan_3958211.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


Healthcare Workers Pack Hearing to Support Bill to Ban Vaccine Mandates in Michigan
BY STEVEN KOVAC August 22, 2021

LANSING, Mich.—A public hearing on a proposed new law to ban employers from requiring workers to be vaccinated against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus drew hundreds of people, many dressed in hospital scrubs, to the state capital on Thursday morning.
26   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 25, 12:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I'm impressed with your knowledge and use of Hebrew there @zzyzzx
27   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 25, 12:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Do you have a link where you got this image from @zzyzzx ?
28   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 26, 7:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
Do you have a link where you got this image from @zzyzzx ?


It's an image I downloaded from someplace, probably patriots.win or coronaviruscirclejerk
29   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 26, 8:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Ceffer says
It's a war, not a disease. Vaccines are the bullets, and vaccine passports are the white surrender flags.


Yes exactly. +1,000,000
30   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 31, 10:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccine-passports-prolong-lockdowns-11617726629


Vaccine Passports Prolong Lockdowns
What looks like an easing of restrictions is actually a coercive scheme.

By Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya
April 6, 2021 12:30 pm ET

As tens of millions are inoculated against Covid-19, officials in places as diverse as New York state, Israel and China have introduced “vaccine passports,” and there’s talk of making them universal. The idea is simple: Once you’ve received your shots, you get a document or phone app, which you flash to gain entry to previously locked-down venues—restaurants, theaters, sports arenas, offices, schools.

It sounds like a way of easing coercive lockdown restrictions, but it’s the opposite. To see why, consider dining. Restaurants in most parts of the U.S. have already reopened, at limited capacity in some places. A vaccine passport would prohibit entry by potential customers who haven’t received their shots. It would restrict the freedom even of those who have: If you’re vaccinated but your spouse isn’t, forget about dining out as a couple.

Planes and trains, which have continued to operate throughout the pandemic, would suddenly be off-limits to the unvaccinated. The only places where restrictions would be relatively eased would be those still fully locked down, such as many live-event venues and schools. Yet even there, the passport idea depends on keeping the underlying restrictions in place—giving officials an incentive to do so for much longer as leverage to overcome vaccine resistance.

The vaccine passport should therefore be understood not as an easing of restrictions but as a coercive scheme to encourage vaccination. Such measures can be legitimate: Many schools require immunization against common childhood illnesses, and visitors to some African countries must be vaccinated against yellow fever. But Covid vaccine passports would harm, not benefit, public health.

The idea that everybody needs to be vaccinated is as scientifically baseless as the idea that nobody does. Covid vaccines are essential for older, high-risk people and their caretakers and advisable for many others. But those who’ve been infected are already immune. The young are at low risk, and children—for whom no vaccine has been approved anyway—are at far less risk of death than from the flu. If authorities mandate vaccination of those who don’t need it, the public will start questioning vaccines in general.
31   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 31, 10:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-epidemiologist-says-the-case-for-covid-vaccine-passports-was-just-demolished/


Harvard Epidemiologist Says the Case for COVID Vaccine Passports Was Just Demolished
New research found that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than COVID-19 vaccines.
Monday, August 30, 2021
32   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 31, 10:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://dossier.substack.com/p/zero-covid-a-once-wildly-popular?token=patrick.net

Zero COVID, a once wildly popular ideology, quietly faces extinction
Once sporting a millions-strong adherent roster, Zero COVID is fizzling out

Jordan Schachtel
33 min ago
8
The Zero COVID ideology began with a Chinese government lie. Zero COVID once recruited almost unanimous advocates in world governments, “global health” organizations, and “public health experts” far and wide. Yet today, just 18 months after its first implementation, the Zero COVID ideology is so rare and so unpopular that you have to travel to remote parts of Oceania or within the confines of an elite American liberal arts university in order to find it.
33   Al_Sharpton_for_President   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 31, 10:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Hike in the USA. Screw vaccine passports.

34   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Sep 18, 10:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

For the greater good!
35   Patrick   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 20, 5:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://reclaimthenet.org/victoria-dan-andrews-australia-booster-passports/


Issue: September 20, 2021
Victoria Premier Dan Andrews is already talking about “booster passports”
Andrews suggests the eradication civil liberties will extend into at least the first half of 2022.
40   Rin   ignore (9)   2021 Oct 7, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

WookieMan says
It's one thing for one of us to promote doing it, but you're a known commodity.


If you're not using a VPN, then you're a party to Patrick the Renegade.

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