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The Destruction of Trust In The CDC and Public Health Establishment Is Now Complete

By Patrick follow Patrick   2021 Aug 12, 12:36am 2,825 views  136 comments           share      

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The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

As soon as politicians, media members and incompetent and terrified “experts” became ideologically committed to ineffective interventions, they could never end.

The CDC has been the most reliable and consistent contributor to destructive and functionally useless mask recommendations. They’ve used unconscionably bad, dangerously incompetent and misleading “studies,” along with hilariously useless “hairdresser” examples to “prove” mask efficacy. Finally though, after throwing out their own pre-pandemic planning documents to promote a policy with no demonstrable benefits, the CDC displayed confidence in the “safe and effective” vaccines and removed their useless mask guidelines just two and a half months ago.

And yet. It’s all happening. The CDC flip flopped again. Masks are back.

Many of us arguing against lockdowns and masks and other related and equally ineffective “mitigations” have been pointing out for months now that the CDC has been unbelievably bad at their literal one job. We’ve been pointing out that the CDC’s credibility has been irreparably damaged based on their demonstrable incompetence and ever changing messaging with unchanging certainty. But no one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen that the death blow to the CDC’s credibility would come from the CDC itself.

I guess it shouldn’t be as surprising as it is that they put the final nail in their own coffin, but somehow their devotion to pseudoscience never ceases to amaze.

Bringing back masks is the end. It has to be. They were unequivocal in their assertions that the available vaccines were remarkably effective at preventing infections and transmission, symptomatic illness, severe cases and ultimately deaths.

Yesterday’s announcement is completely incompatible with their previous statements and should be an inescapable disaster for the country’s trust in “public health” and what the CDC, Fauci and others laughably refer to as “science.”

So let’s go over this unfolding debacle!

April 1
INTELLIGENCER HEADLINE: “CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus”
Got that? No hemming and hawing, no uncertainty, no “don’t spread the virus as much,” it literally says that the vaccinated CAN NOT SPREAD THE VIRUS. CAN NOT. It’s not possible for them to spread it, that’s what the “data” says.

Here’s a direct quote from the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

They do not carry the virus and do not get sick. Focus on the “they do not carry the virus” part for a second. If vaccinated people can’t carry it, how can they spread it?

They can’t! That’s what the CDC says:

Walensky was referring to a new CDC study that suggests those fully inoculated with the vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer don’t transmit the virus.

So naturally,

“The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

They are the key tool. Masks used to be, of course, but now vaccines will end the pandemic. Let’s keep that in mind. ...

July 27
CNBC Headline: “CDC reverses indoor mask policy, saying fully vaccinated people and kids should wear them indoors”
There it is. The destruction of any remaining shreds of credibility the CDC and Fauci had left.

So what was the justification for this dramatic shift? The delta variant! The same variant that Fauci said the vaccines did “very well” against. ...




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1   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2021 Aug 12, 4:00am  

The clinical studies of the gene therapies never reported on viral transmission.

Recall that the CDC bungled the rollout of its PCR test kit.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/05/905484/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/

Walensky in 5 years:



2   WookieMan   2021 Aug 12, 4:19am  

Patrick says
The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

I can't remember if I posted it or not, but Sister Bay, Wisconsin (Door County) was alarmingly masked. I felt awkward. It's mostly Chicago yuppies this time of year, which I won't visit Chicago anymore, but I was taken aback. The signs on the entry door about vaccinated and not vaccinated wearing masks. Get the fuck out of here. You have no right to know what I put in my body and then decide if I put a face diaper on.

I don't see masks often where I live, so it was weird. I just stare at the people that are wearing masks like they have a mental issue. I think they do in all honesty. Not poking fun at retarded or disabled people, but let's be honest, we all give them a different look when we see them. That's kind of how I feel about maskers. They have a mental illness. And who knows if they got vaccinated as well. What was the point if you still have to wear a mask? That's an illness in my world.
3   richwicks   2021 Aug 12, 4:59am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
I just stare at the people that are wearing masks like they have a mental issue. I think they do in all honesty. Not poking fun at retarded or disabled people, but let's be honest, we all give them a different look when we see them. That's kind of how I feel about maskers. They have a mental illness.


This mental illness is real and it's imposed upon the population through leaders who do not believe in it, and celebrities who do not believe in it.

I think the mental illness is faith in what is perceived as authority. In Silicon Valley where people are "smart" I was aghast as how easily people are manipulated and controlled. It's truly shocking. I have to see here, just to see the fall out. I've seen the rise of this place, now I expect to see the fall.
4   Patrick   2021 Aug 12, 7:17pm  

richwicks says
I think the mental illness is faith in what is perceived as authority.


Exactly.

That's why the "professional class" and academics cannot stand Trump.

Thatcher and Trump refused to give the automatic respect many academics feel is their due. They gave the impression that they could see right through us, an uncomfortable feeling.


He exposed them as the charlatans they really are.
5   SumatraBosch   2021 Aug 12, 10:26pm  

ONLY BLEACH CAN CURE HOAXES!

Disagree only if you want sharia!
6   PeopleUnited   2021 Aug 12, 11:12pm  

richwicks says
I think the mental illness is faith in what is perceived as authority


For some, this may be true. For many though it is not illness it is legitimate fear and indoctrination. Fear of the virus, fear of nonconformity, fear of global warming, fear of being called a racist. People are living in fear, and deeply desire to deliver themselves from their fears. They have been taught that their virtue is dependent on conforming to the ways of the world and their corporate overlords. This training is reinforced with every person who is punished when they contradict or break with the narrative. They seek to absolve their sins by doing the penance of masking, vaxxing, counting carbon emissions and CRT /intersectionality training. It makes them feel good to sacrifice for the greater good. People are even sincerely comparing this to world war 2 with the assertion that people were willing to sacrifice it all to win the war, implying that we are in a war today that can be won if we all do our part.

So they are infected. They are infected with fear and lies. Their fear is real, it is not an illness it is deception.

The virus is real but going to war is ridiculous. The virus cannot be eradicated with lockdowns, masks or vaxx. The virus and variants are here to stay, and the more we try to avoid it rather than learning to live with it, the longer we all will suffer needlessly fighting battles that can’t be won. And more dangerous than the virus is the infection of fear, and that infection is proving even harder to treat. There are some people who will now wear a mask every day until the day they die, so great is their fear and/desire to show their virtue (which is really just a fear of being seen as unrighteous).

Covidianism is a religion based on fear. The true believers don’t even care that Obama had a huge maskless party because they are only concerned about their own fear and proving to themselves and others that they are virtuous.
7   WineHorror1   2021 Aug 13, 6:15am  

SumatraBosch says
ONLY BLEACH CAN CURE HOAXES!

Disagree only if you want sharia!

Haha
8   RC2006   2021 Aug 13, 7:02am  

Some times I think this mismanagement and hype with covid was a setup for something worse. Create distrust and then hit population with real killer virus mostly takes out people who are more likely to question government and media motives.
9   Onvacation   2021 Aug 13, 8:11am  

RC2006 says
real killer virus

It's coming, and Congress can't stop it.
Only Jesus is allowed to play God.
10   mich   2021 Aug 13, 8:20am  

Good one! cheers!
11   WineHorror1   2021 Aug 13, 8:25am  

RC2006 says
Some times I think this mismanagement and hype with covid was a setup for something worse. Create distrust and then hit population with real killer virus mostly takes out people who are more likely to question government and media motives.

Some times? This is without a doubt a set up to some type of agenda. Just look at the last 2 years. Ever seen anything like that in history? I'm not talking about just Covid.
12   Onvacation   2021 Aug 13, 8:28am  

WineHorror1 says
Just look at the last 2 years.

17 months today since, "two weeks to flatten the curve,"
13   WineHorror1   2021 Aug 13, 8:31am  

Onvacation says
WineHorror1 says
Just look at the last 2 years.

17 months today since, "two weeks to flatten the curve,"

I'm talking about all the other insanity that we have been witnessing for a long time. Covid wasn't the start of the US disintegration. I believe it will be the most powerful though. It is possible you will not even get health care if not V'd.
14   Onvacation   2021 Aug 13, 8:33am  

20 years next month since the Patriot act.

58 years ago next November since they killed Jack.
15   Onvacation   2021 Aug 13, 8:34am  

105 years ago they started the fed reserve.
16   Patrick   2021 Aug 24, 9:51am  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-cdc-says-the-first-step-in-preparing-for-a-hurricane-is-to-get-vaxxed-

I can't wait to stand in those gale-force winds and feel the sheer power of invincibility as that mRNA courses through my veins! I bet flying debris will bounce right off me!

To those in the "akshually" crowd, yes, I realize the CDC is not saying a Covid shot will make me impervious to hurricanes.

But you've got to laugh that this is literally the first suggestion on their list.




18   richwicks   2021 Aug 25, 11:04pm  

Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/the-cdc-says-the-first-step-in-preparing-for-a-hurricane-is-to-get-vaxxed-

I can't wait to stand in those gale-force winds and feel the sheer power of invincibility as that mRNA courses through my veins! I bet flying debris will bounce right off me!


I really think this is a test of both intelligence and autonomy.

If the vaccines really are deadly, it will be easy to deal with the perpetrators that did this as the victims will not hold us back being dead and it will be our moral responsibility to remove the people that have killed and maimed humanity.

This obvious outcome makes me think that it's impossible the vaccines are designed to kill, that's just accidental. I wonder what the true purpose of them are?
19   Patrick   2021 Aug 25, 11:29pm  

I think it was all just corruption, greed, and incompetence.

The FDA, CDC, and NIH are all utterly captured and run by the pharma mafia. They don't even try to hide it much.

I think this guy explains it well and has plausible predictions about what's next:

https://patrick.net/post/1340811/2021-08-24-hypothesis-it-was-all-greed-and-incompe
20   Patrick   2021 Aug 26, 2:22pm  


Virgile RICHARD
@VirgileRICHARD3
3h
Replying to @RWMaloneMD
They're losing more credibility everyday but still won't let go while ignoring consequences of their choices.

They'll have to face reality at some point. Then they may realize but it will be too late for them.


https://twitter.com/VirgileRICHARD3/status/1430949198980071428#m
21   Shaman   2021 Aug 26, 3:13pm  

richwicks says
This obvious outcome makes me think that it's impossible the vaccines are designed to kill, that's just accidental. I wonder what the true purpose of them are?


Not necessarily. The true power players are using and using up their pawns to push the jab. We don’t even know who these hidden power players are! They’ll never come out in the open and admit to what they’re doing. They don’t care if we take out their pawns after the fact. They’ll just get new pawns later or promote ones which haven’t been burned. The goal is human population reduction. This was always going to cost. But they figure this way they won’t harm the planet with war or nuclear fallout or whatever. So the survivors will live in a time of many resources and little competition.
22   Shaman   2021 Aug 26, 3:16pm  

Patrick says
I think it was all just corruption, greed, and incompetence.


Nope. This is an orchestrated plot. The powers that be are putting in play the least destructive method of massive human population reduction. They don’t care if their media, federal agencies, and the government puppets lose all credibility. When the jab kicks in, it won’t matter. They can say “mission accomplished” and fuck off to their private islands to wait out the chaos.
23   Patrick   2021 Aug 26, 3:24pm  

Either way, we absolutely need to put on a full-court press against all mandates right now.

Have to do everything we can.
24   Patrick   2021 Aug 27, 11:03pm  

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1431353662287355918#m


Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
9h
When we finally get past all of this, the legitimacy of both the federal public health infrastructure and the legacy media will have been destroyed. And what happens then? Force your mind to think 9-12 months ahead. What do things look like then, based on current trends?

Remember~ there will be a midterm election at that point.

Then start preparing for that future.
25   HeadSet   2021 Aug 28, 9:26am  

Patrick says
Remember~ there will be a midterm election at that point.

Yes, midterms with push style mail in ballots. For a good barometer, watch what happens with the Newsome recall. The MSM is already pushing polls the "57% of the voters approve of Newsome" to pre-propagandize for when Newsome wins only after the polls are closed and the mail-in ballots are counted.
26   Ceffer   2021 Aug 28, 9:35am  

It's time for Republicans to step up and show that they have printing presses and drop boxes, too.
27   Ceffer   2021 Aug 28, 9:53am  

The question on their minds is: "If I can't sell a plandemic, can I really go back to selling real estate?"
28   Onvacation   2021 Aug 28, 10:32am  

Ceffer says
It's time for Republicans to step up and show that they have printing presses and drop boxes, too.

It doesn't matter who has more votes. It matters who counts the votes.
29   HeadSet   2021 Aug 28, 12:41pm  

Onvacation says
It doesn't matter who has more votes. It matters who counts the votes.

Correct.
30   Patrick   2021 Sep 3, 11:48pm  


Eric Topol
@EricTopol
9h
How to lose public confidence?
1. Announce a booster program on Sept 20 for all at 8 months post-vaccine
2. Change it to 6 months, then 5 months, then back to 8
3. Lack of agreement among leadership group
4. Have no US national data
5. Announce the program will be "scaled back"
9:39 PM · Sep 3, 2021


https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1433907516245569542#m
31   Patrick   2021 Sep 24, 2:02pm  

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/cdc-recommends-covid-19-booster-vaccine-for-group-that-advisory-panel-did-not_4014397.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


CDC Allows COVID-19 Vaccine Booster for Group That Advisory Panel Did Not
BY ZACHARY STIEBER September 24, 2021

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) overrode its vaccine advisory panel early Friday and said people as young as 18 who have certain jobs or living situations may get a COVID-19 vaccine booster.
33   Ceffer   2021 Sep 30, 1:22pm  

Non specific test for kitchen sink illnesses (or non-illnesses testing positive). Only way Covid could still be around is if the psychopaths are purposely re-injecting variants into the population. This would be combined with vaccine induced immune deficiency.

Did you really think they only had one weaponized virus in their quiver to keep the fake plandemic alive? Covid 19 is just the brand name rubric for their 'enterprise offensive' against government and society.
35   Patrick   2021 Oct 1, 11:55am  

https://rumble.com/vn3y22-tfnt9-cdc-and-fda-vaccine-committee-members-should-resign-for-failing-to-sp.html

CDC and FDA vaccine committee members should resign for failing to spot safety signals


I don't think the CDC and FDA are ignorant of the extreme danger of mass injections with an unknown technology. They are simply corrupt, paid off or coerced into compliance.
36   Patrick   2021 Oct 1, 1:23pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-cdc-wants-you-to-trust-their-intelligence-which-is-why-they-use-the-term-pregnant-people-instead-of-women-for-psas-


The CDC wants you to trust the science, which is why they said "pregnant people" instead of "women" in their new advisory 🤡

Joel Abbott

Sep 30th, 2021 12:03 pm
Only women can get pregnant.

I guess I know more about science than the CDC!

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