The Destruction of Trust In The CDC and Public Health Establishment Is Now Complete

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2021 Aug 12, 12:36am   52,017 views  328 comments

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The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

As soon as politicians, media members and incompetent and terrified “experts” became ideologically committed to ineffective interventions, they could never end.

The CDC has been the most reliable and consistent contributor to destructive and functionally useless mask recommendations. They’ve used unconscionably bad, dangerously incompetent and misleading “studies,” along with hilariously useless “hairdresser” examples to “prove” mask efficacy. Finally though, after throwing out their own pre-pandemic planning documents to promote a policy with no demonstrable benefits, the CDC displayed confidence in the “safe and effective” vaccines and removed their useless mask guidelines just two and a half months ago.

And yet. It’s all happening. The CDC flip flopped again. Masks are back.

Many of us arguing against lockdowns and masks and other related and equally ineffective “mitigations” have been pointing out for months now that the CDC has been unbelievably bad at their literal one job. We’ve been pointing out that the CDC’s credibility has been irreparably damaged based on their demonstrable incompetence and ever changing messaging with unchanging certainty. But no one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen that the death blow to the CDC’s credibility would come from the CDC itself.

I guess it shouldn’t be as surprising as it is that they put the final nail in their own coffin, but somehow their devotion to pseudoscience never ceases to amaze.

Bringing back masks is the end. It has to be. They were unequivocal in their assertions that the available vaccines were remarkably effective at preventing infections and transmission, symptomatic illness, severe cases and ultimately deaths.

Yesterday’s announcement is completely incompatible with their previous statements and should be an inescapable disaster for the country’s trust in “public health” and what the CDC, Fauci and others laughably refer to as “science.”

So let’s go over this unfolding debacle!

April 1
INTELLIGENCER HEADLINE: “CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus”
Got that? No hemming and hawing, no uncertainty, no “don’t spread the virus as much,” it literally says that the vaccinated CAN NOT SPREAD THE VIRUS. CAN NOT. It’s not possible for them to spread it, that’s what the “data” says.

Here’s a direct quote from the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

They do not carry the virus and do not get sick. Focus on the “they do not carry the virus” part for a second. If vaccinated people can’t carry it, how can they spread it?

They can’t! That’s what the CDC says:

Walensky was referring to a new CDC study that suggests those fully inoculated with the vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer don’t transmit the virus.

So naturally,

“The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

They are the key tool. Masks used to be, of course, but now vaccines will end the pandemic. Let’s keep that in mind. ...

July 27
CNBC Headline: “CDC reverses indoor mask policy, saying fully vaccinated people and kids should wear them indoors”
There it is. The destruction of any remaining shreds of credibility the CDC and Fauci had left.

So what was the justification for this dramatic shift? The delta variant! The same variant that Fauci said the vaccines did “very well” against. ...

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19   Patrick   2021 Aug 25, 11:29pm  

I think it was all just corruption, greed, and incompetence.

The FDA, CDC, and NIH are all utterly captured and run by the pharma mafia. They don't even try to hide it much.

I think this guy explains it well and has plausible predictions about what's next:

20   Patrick   2021 Aug 26, 2:22pm  

Replying to @RWMaloneMD
They're losing more credibility everyday but still won't let go while ignoring consequences of their choices.

They'll have to face reality at some point. Then they may realize but it will be too late for them.

21   Shaman   2021 Aug 26, 3:13pm  

richwicks says
This obvious outcome makes me think that it's impossible the vaccines are designed to kill, that's just accidental. I wonder what the true purpose of them are?

Not necessarily. The true power players are using and using up their pawns to push the jab. We don’t even know who these hidden power players are! They’ll never come out in the open and admit to what they’re doing. They don’t care if we take out their pawns after the fact. They’ll just get new pawns later or promote ones which haven’t been burned. The goal is human population reduction. This was always going to cost. But they figure this way they won’t harm the planet with war or nuclear fallout or whatever. So the survivors will live in a time of many resources and little competition.
22   Shaman   2021 Aug 26, 3:16pm  

Patrick says
I think it was all just corruption, greed, and incompetence.

Nope. This is an orchestrated plot. The powers that be are putting in play the least destructive method of massive human population reduction. They don’t care if their media, federal agencies, and the government puppets lose all credibility. When the jab kicks in, it won’t matter. They can say “mission accomplished” and fuck off to their private islands to wait out the chaos.
23   Patrick   2021 Aug 26, 3:24pm  

Either way, we absolutely need to put on a full-court press against all mandates right now.

Have to do everything we can.
24   Patrick   2021 Aug 27, 11:03pm  


Robert W Malone, MD
When we finally get past all of this, the legitimacy of both the federal public health infrastructure and the legacy media will have been destroyed. And what happens then? Force your mind to think 9-12 months ahead. What do things look like then, based on current trends?

Remember~ there will be a midterm election at that point.

Then start preparing for that future.
25   HeadSet   2021 Aug 28, 9:26am  

Patrick says
Remember~ there will be a midterm election at that point.

Yes, midterms with push style mail in ballots. For a good barometer, watch what happens with the Newsome recall. The MSM is already pushing polls the "57% of the voters approve of Newsome" to pre-propagandize for when Newsome wins only after the polls are closed and the mail-in ballots are counted.
26   Ceffer   2021 Aug 28, 9:35am  

It's time for Republicans to step up and show that they have printing presses and drop boxes, too.
27   Ceffer   2021 Aug 28, 9:53am  

The question on their minds is: "If I can't sell a plandemic, can I really go back to selling real estate?"
28   Onvacation   2021 Aug 28, 10:32am  

Ceffer says
It's time for Republicans to step up and show that they have printing presses and drop boxes, too.

It doesn't matter who has more votes. It matters who counts the votes.
29   HeadSet   2021 Aug 28, 12:41pm  

Onvacation says
It doesn't matter who has more votes. It matters who counts the votes.

30   Patrick   2021 Sep 3, 11:48pm  

Eric Topol
How to lose public confidence?
1. Announce a booster program on Sept 20 for all at 8 months post-vaccine
2. Change it to 6 months, then 5 months, then back to 8
3. Lack of agreement among leadership group
4. Have no US national data
5. Announce the program will be "scaled back"
9:39 PM · Sep 3, 2021

31   Patrick   2021 Sep 24, 2:02pm  


CDC Allows COVID-19 Vaccine Booster for Group That Advisory Panel Did Not
BY ZACHARY STIEBER September 24, 2021

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) overrode its vaccine advisory panel early Friday and said people as young as 18 who have certain jobs or living situations may get a COVID-19 vaccine booster.
33   Ceffer   2021 Sep 30, 1:22pm  

Non specific test for kitchen sink illnesses (or non-illnesses testing positive). Only way Covid could still be around is if the psychopaths are purposely re-injecting variants into the population. This would be combined with vaccine induced immune deficiency.

Did you really think they only had one weaponized virus in their quiver to keep the fake plandemic alive? Covid 19 is just the brand name rubric for their 'enterprise offensive' against government and society.
35   Patrick   2021 Oct 1, 11:55am  


CDC and FDA vaccine committee members should resign for failing to spot safety signals

I don't think the CDC and FDA are ignorant of the extreme danger of mass injections with an unknown technology. They are simply corrupt, paid off or coerced into compliance.
36   Patrick   2021 Oct 1, 1:23pm  


The CDC wants you to trust the science, which is why they said "pregnant people" instead of "women" in their new advisory 🤡

Joel Abbott

Sep 30th, 2021 12:03 pm
Only women can get pregnant.

I guess I know more about science than the CDC!
43   Patrick   2021 Oct 12, 12:03pm  


Oregon Senators Call for Investigation Into Alleged COVID-19 Statistical Manipulation
BY TAMMY HUNG October 12, 2021

Oregon state Sens. Kim Thatcher and Dennis Linthicum, both Republicans, have petitioned Acting U.S. Attorney Scott E. Asphaug to launch a grand jury investigation into the measurement of COVID-19 statistics by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Thatcher and Linthicum submitted the petition in a letter (pdf) on Aug. 16 after gathering signatures from 1,718 Oregonians and 53,032 Americans.

In the petition, the senators expressed concerns over the measurement and reporting of COVID-19 vaccine adverse reactions including fatalities and injuries.

The lawmakers stated that a whistleblower, under sworn testimony, said the data reported under the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System may have been underreported by a factor of five.

Regarding the diagnosis of COVID-19 through widely-used PCR tests, the senators said that the CDC and the FDA’s setting of one particular test parameter—the cycle threshold—generated “false positives resulting in inflated numbers of COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.”
44   Patrick   2021 Oct 19, 1:23pm  


The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has again refused to release emails between the Director of the Immunization Safety Office, Dr. Frank DeStefano, and some of the largest vaccine manufacturers in the world, claiming that these communications are privileged because they reflect “the decision-making process of government agencies.”

Because federal law protects vaccine companies from being sued for vaccine injuries, the CDC’s Immunization Safety Office is supposed to play a central role in ensuring the safety of these liability-free products - not engage in agency decision-making with these companies!
45   Patrick   2021 Oct 28, 10:32am  


FDA Committee Members Reviewing Pfizer Vaccine For Children Have Worked For Pfizer, Have Big Pfizer Connections
This Is A Staggering Conflict of Interest
Patrick Howley by PATRICK HOWLEY October 26, 2021
46   richwicks   2021 Oct 28, 10:56am  

Patrick says

Hey - does anybody else get the weird feeling that we all heard these "conspiracy theories" before like, "The CDC is actually a private corporation!" or "The Federal Reserve isn't part of the government - it's a PRIVATE bank!!" - etc, to realize we all dismissed these crazy claims, and repeatedly have heard authorities dismiss them as crazy claims, only to find out they are, actually, true?

Seems like the world is falling apart because the curtain hiding the wizard has been pulled back finally. Of course, the world isn't falling apart, we're just seeing how everything is a scam and how it's ALWAYS been a scam..
50   Ceffer   2021 Nov 5, 12:25am  

Why haven't they updated the 'Definition of Terms' for 'Vaccine' to read: a preparation injected through seduction, lies, coercion and/or mass extralegal threats/intimidation, designed to genetically alter, kill or disable as many people as possible with the greatest profitable return to the company that manufactured them and their government proxies? They obviously don't have any concern at all about keeping up with the science.
51   Patrick   2021 Nov 6, 8:25pm  


The CDC and the FDA have unleashed a set of untested vaccines on the public that have been shown to produce alarmingly high rates of adverse reactions, both disabling and leading to death. The CDC’s VAERS system for reporting all that is so janky that doctors can barely use it and the CDC refuses to fix it; meanwhile doctors are being punished for even attempting to report adverse reactions. The whole of medical officialdom has militated aggressively against early treatments of Covid-19 with cheap and easily available drugs, even firing doctors who attempt to use the protocols.

The entire approval process of the various vaccines has been rife with fraud, gamed statistics, sabotaged trials, bait-and-switch scams, and unaccountable manufacturing screw-ups — all immersed in a stench of moneygrubbing. The drug companies have refused to fully reveal the contents of the vaccines. Now they are ramping up an urgent campaign to vaccinate children following rushed and falsified clinical trials, with the statistical certainty that many more kids will be injured or will die from the vax than they would from Covid-19 itself.

Citizens have a right to object to this, and to the illegal vaccine “mandate” invoked by the pugnaciously stupid “Joe Biden” regime. There is an awful creeping suspicion in the USA and in other countries that people who have received vaccinations are beginning to present fatal cardiovascular and neurological illness in large numbers, and that an attempt is underway to cover all this up. There is likewise a growing body of evidence that the vaccines and “boosters” incrementally disable the human immune system so that later in the winter of 2021-2022 millions of people will be at risk of dying from Covid variants and virtually any other disease that comes along, including cancers. How many of us are prepared for that?
52   Patrick   2021 Nov 6, 8:43pm  


not “8000 deaths and 38,000 hospitalizations.”

1% of that in one year, especially in young people, would have pulled any other vaccine in US history off the market.
this is WHY we trust vaccines to be safe.

because up until now, they were.

there was such trust in vaccines BECAUSE they were so thoroughly tested and held to such extraordinary standards. to give something to 100’s of millions of people, it needs to be.

that trust is being savagely abused though the slippery false equivalence of “past vaccines were safe. this is a vaccine. so this is safe.”

Uh, weren't there more than 16,000 deaths from the toxxine just a little while ago? How did it get edited down to 8,000?
53   Onvacation   2021 Nov 6, 8:51pm  

Patrick says
Uh, weren't there more than 16,000 deaths from the toxxine just a little while ago? How did it get edited down to 8,000?


Broken heart disease is surging among the youth.
54   GNL   2021 Nov 7, 4:44am  

Patrick says

@Patrick, I've seen this a few times now. What is the big difference?
55   richwicks   2021 Nov 7, 4:58am  

WineHorror1 says
@Patrick, I've seen this a few times now. What is the big difference?

Vaccines create immunity to a disease. The new "definition" says it just stimulates the immune system.
56   HeadSet   2021 Nov 7, 7:37am  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
@Patrick, I've seen this a few times now. What is the big difference?

Vaccines create immunity to a disease. The new "definition" says it just stimulates the immune system.

True. Vaccines would have been pointless if they did not stop you from catching, carrying, or spreading the disease.

Polio is a true vaccine that stops the inoculated from getting Polio at all, while even the CDC admits that the Pfizer/Moderna jabs provide no protection against catching or spreading Covid.
57   Patrick   2021 Nov 7, 8:23pm  

Patrick says


Getting no response, there was a follow-up e-mail a week later: “The definition of vaccine we have posted is problematic and people are using it to claim the COVID-19 vaccine is not a vaccine based on our own definition.” ...

The change of the “vaccination” definition was eventually approved on August 31. The next day, on September 1, they approved the change to the “vaccine” definition from discussing immunity to protection (seen below).

There you have it. Affirmative action for the multinational corporations. Why have them improve their vaccines when you can just change the definition of vaccine to fit their ineffective vaccines?

Congrats to all the skeptics out there – you raised enough hell that the the CDC went and tried to change reality.
58   Patrick   2021 Nov 8, 10:44am  


So here is what blows my mind: We are living in a world where the CDC director can say something that is false, made-up and no institution will say otherwise. At the same time, major, venerable fact checking institutions are literally asserting as fact something which is at best unproven.

No matter how you feel about these issues; these are dangerous times. Truth and falsehood is not a matter of science but cultural power— the ability to proclaim and define the truth. If this continues, dark times lie ahead. Someday soon, we may not like who defines the truth.

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