patrick.net

That's because it's the government doing the laundering. CIA runs drugs, and deep state has been laundering since they invented a little front called NASA.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/02/11/how-to-stop-cbdcs.aspx

In The Corbett Report video above, you can hear Agustín Carstens, executive director of the Bank for International Settlements, describe the chilling truth about CBDCs. Corbett describes the Bank for International Settlements, by the way, as the "central bank of central banks — the apex of the financial monetary pyramid, identified by Carroll Quigley in 'Tragedy and Hope' — and others as the capstone of the Pyramid of Power."4 Carstens says:5

"We don't know, for example, who is using a $100 bill today. We don't know who is using the 1,000-peso bill today. A key difference … with the CBDC is central bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of central bank liability. And also we will have the technology to enforce that." ...

"They want to replace fiat paper money with digital money as a competitor to Bitcoin and crypto money, right?

But instead of being decentralized currency, it will be controlled by a government … So instead of having a bank account with … HSBC or Bank of America, you'll have a bank account directly with — in the American context, with the Fed — in the UK, directly with the Bank of England. You have a personal bank account, and you're given digital money in that bank account.

… This money that you will earn from work, instead of having paper money, you have this digital money. It's programmable so that you can't buy certain foods, or if you do something that your employer doesn't like … you won't be able to spend your money. In other words, it's not money, they're vouchers.

They're like food vouchers. And they can be programmed. So that, like the Chinese social credit system, if you try and use them on a certain thing, it won't work. Say you want to buy a burger, and they want you to buy a box … if you start to try and buy unhealthy meat, it just won't work … you tap your card, you can't buy the thing, because you've met your quota that month, for burgers." ...

"Do you remember that parking ticket you forgot to pay last month? Well, your central bank issued CBDC, it remembers, and it will just subtract those funds plus a late payment fee from your account when you're not looking.

Got caught supporting the wrong fundraiser or the wrong political cause, like the freedom convoy in Canada? Don't worry. In a world of CBDC transactions, you wouldn't have even been allowed to donate to that cause in the first place because your wallet wouldn't let you."

And yet the TBTF financial institutions just don't foresee that they will be nationalized.

--- It may just happen

That could be quite amusing, especially if all their shareholders get wiped out.

Patrick says

"Do you remember that parking ticket you forgot to pay last month? Well, your central bank issued CBDC, it remembers, and it will just subtract those funds plus a late payment fee from your account when you're not looking.

Got caught supporting the wrong fundraiser or the wrong political cause, like the freedom convoy in Canada? Don't worry. In a world of CBDC transactions, you wouldn't have even been allowed to donate to that cause in the first place because your wallet wouldn't let you."

This is all a psy-op. It's clearly just a slavery system meant to waste people's time worrying about it. I would be driven to kill if this was imposed upon me, and I don't think I'm in the minority.

I don't believe in the what is said, I believe most of what we are told is total bullshit and is designed to waste our energy fighting it.

Patrick says

At least our GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER is making a stand against all that WEF digital currency bullshit: https://tinyurl.com/2d4w2xht

Eric Holder says

https://tinyurl.com/2d4w2xht

Which is https://www.cbr.ru/eng/analytics/d_ok/dig_ruble/

Russians should stick to cash as well, preferably real silver coins, but paper is at least better than digital money for freedom and anonymity.

Patrick says

Eric Holder says

https://tinyurl.com/2d4w2xht

Which is https://www.cbr.ru/eng/analytics/d_ok/dig_ruble/

Russians should stick to cash as well, preferably real silver coins, but paper is at least better than digital money for freedom and anonymity.

LOL. You're talking about the country where they literally use face recognition software to pay for their subway rides. The weird picture of Soviets as government-defying, fiercely independent brave people you have in your had has nothing to do with reality. They are mostly little scared government's bitches, living in fear of their meager "privileges" taken away. The government share of the economy before the war was already over 70%. Now it's probably over 80%. And they have so-called "electronic voting" which is even worse than it sounds: it's not a Dominion-type machine at some voting place - it's a fucking website you vote on. Paper trail? What paper trail?

Most of the independent types have left either long ago or during the most recent pre-mobilisation wave of emigration.

You live in a country where a pedophile with deep ties to foreign, communist governments cheated his to way the presidency. Where it's been revealed multiple times over the past 50 years that pedophilia is practiced by government and Hollywood, and protected by law enforcement. Where they routinely execute our kids in state propaganda institutions to push an agenda to disarm us. Where a LOT of people lined up to take experimental drugs, and berated and beat people up for not wearing masks that actually make you sicker. Where it's ok to physically assault someone if they don't share your politics. Where we need shit maps in certain cities. Where they lock people up and torture them for touring the capital buildings. Where they read all our texts, emails, and record all our phone conversations, or just record whatever our phone mic picks up. They watch us from cameras, everywhere, force us to obtain ID's to travel freely, create random checkpoints in violation of the 4th Amendment, celebrate women's "right" to murder their child in the womb, or even after birth. Coerce kids into permanently mutilating their bodies. Allow perverts into women's dressing rooms. Have sex shows with minors in attendance, homework about anal sex, and promote racism and discrimination over competence. And when that doesn't work they ship us off to die in foreign countries for the MIC, or poison us by derailing trains, feeding us GMO's, spraying chemicals on our food, prescribing us pills that attack our immune system, and enslave us through central banks.

But yeah, keep up your moral superiority bullshit. Obviously we should focus all our attention on other countries, cuz we've got everything handled here at home...

https://slaynews.com/news/wef-pushes-end-cash-banking-crisis/

The World Economic Forum (WEF) is hailing the opportunity presented by the global banking crisis to advance toward its goal of a “cashless society.”

Klaus Schwab’s WEF believes that the recent collapse of several large banks has created an ideal argument for “the end of cash.”

The WEF has teamed up with key banking elites to present plans for eradicating the traditional monetary system and replacing it with centralized digital cash. ...

As we’ve recently seen with governments censoring citizens on Big Tech platforms, CBDCs would give authorities a disturbing level of control of individuals’ lives.

The public’s spending habits could be tracked by the government and those who dissent could be easily penalized or even cut off. ...

In the meantime, cash, physical assets, and decentralized crypto remain the only way for people to preserve their privacy and have full control over their finances.

CDBC's are fucked, Nigeria's already proven they won't work or be accepted. These guys better be working on plan B - assume fake identities and pray we don't find them.

They will be found whether they pray or not.

To be rich means a torrent of money is flowing your way, and that is impossible to hide.

Patrick says

They will be found whether they pray or not.

To be rich means a torrent of money is flowing your way, and that is impossible to hide.

Funny in 2008 there was a study that about $200 billion per year in drug money was being funneled through the US financial system. That hasn't changes and in fact has probably gone up. The amount is large enough that there is no way it could be hidden from law enforcement. Hence, law enforcement is complicit in the endeavors.

Yep, that's why they killed Gary Webb.

from https://karenbracken.substack.com/p/prayers-neededron-desantis15-minute

I’ll say it again. Cash is traceable. They will get rid of cash registers at some point. They’ll scan the cash and change comes out. Grocery stores already do this. There’s a unique number on all bills. Very few people go to a teller or inside. They use the ATM. Which again scans your cash.

You're already in a cashless society. Cash will always be there but you’re not untracked like you think you are.

WookieMan says

Cash will always be there but you’re not untracked like you think you are.

There is a project to track the physical location of $1 bills:

https://www.wheresgeorge.com/

But that's just someone's fun project.

CDBCs would give a central computer a real-time tracker of everything you spent every penny on, and the ability to block it if you're politically incorrect.

WookieMan says

I’ll say it again. Cash is traceable. They will get rid of cash registers at some point. They’ll scan the cash and change comes out. Grocery stores already do this. There’s a unique number on all bills. Very few people go to a teller or inside. They use the ATM. Which again scans your cash.

You're already in a cashless society. Cash will always be there but you’re not untracked like you think you are.

What's being talked about here is serial numbers on the bills. The only time I've ever heard of that being used is to track down culprits involved in large bank heists. Grocery stores don't scan the serial numbers, so that correlation is completely false. And I got to a teller for every withdrawal I make, and I always see people in the bank doing the same. In fact in the last few years I've noticed an increase in the number of people, and the amount of money withdrawn.

And to the point being made here, you seem to be completely unaware of the purpose or plan behind CDBC's, official or unofficial, you don't seem to know either.

NuttBoxer says

Grocery stores don't scan the serial numbers, so that correlation is completely false.

Yes they do. So does the teller. All dollars are tracked. They're sequenced as they come in and out at most banks and credits unions and a piece of paper is linked to your withdrawal. Your checks are tracked. Your license plate is tracked. Your face is tracked. At minimum most databases have that dollar at the grocery store linked to you or at least that you were there.

It's called loss prevention. How do you think a company like Garda is entrusted picking up cash and not pocketing it? Or making sure it's not forfeit? Go try a fake dollar somewhere and let me know how that works and a vending machine or self checkout works. The bill is scanned and data collected. Your cash is still linked to a receipt. Cash is good for drug deals. Why do you think they launder it?? So it can't be traced back to them.

You have a passport I assume? You believe you have privacy. You don't. I told you before if you have a drivers license and a registered vehicle you are being tracked. I didn't even have to pull out my passport this morning after a cruise. I don't think anyone here truly realizes the tracking going on, yet the topic always comes up and everyone just says I'm wrong. Doesn't move me because I know the sources personally of my information and my own experiences in life. Cash ain't gonna save you or privacy if shit hits the fan or we go communist. Water, guns and food will.

I think you have trust issues and not privacy. Did speaker of the house Denny Hastert get away with diddling kids as a coach? No. His bank ratted him out. Cash didn't work for the 3rd highest ranking government official (after being in office). It was tracked. Denny was still giving him the cash and the victim wasn't complaining or reporting to the Feds. How did the Feds find out with cash transactions? He was my House rep for a while when I was younger. I know the story. My dad knew him. CDBC's already exist, you just don't know it. Every dollar printed is data.

I just don't think you understand that the Titanic is already at the bottom of the Ocean and you're looking for a life vest 1000' below. Cash will never go away. We still have pennies for fucks sake, the most useless coin. My point is cash is trackable. If you're worried about your cash being traced, you're almost certainly doing illegal things. You should push coins. Pay in quarters, half dollars, etc.

I don't care about digital currency. Central bank or Bitcoin produced whatever. Look how that's worked out with FTX and many other crypto shit. Government doesn't want digital currency. Other people want to make you scared it's going to happen for clicks or they're people doing illegal activities. I'll continue to buy products for the same price you do and make 3-6% on my money. Ahhhhh. That guy had 10 beers on a cruise ship. Arrest him. Not happening.

We have these things called guns. And if enough people get pissed off there's nothing they can do. I'd buy as much ammo as you can on a CC, get the points and enjoy life. Plus if you don't pay it who cares? We did 100+ short sales during the bust. Nothing needs to be paid back...

If you can provide a single link that proves grocery stores scan serial numbers, I'll donate the rest of my patnet coin to you.

Personally I stopped using self-checkouts a year ago. I want to interact with real people, and I don't want to give jobs to machines. Not even going to read the rest since you started with something so blatantly opinionated, and never provide evidence despite the fact that I've proven you wrong many times on privacy, not because it's what I think, but because it's how I live.

I live this stuff in real life, I don't just philosophize about it from behind a screen. And I read books about it, I don't just make shit up in my head.

WookieMan says

I’ll say it again. Cash is traceable. They will get rid of cash registers at some point. They’ll scan the cash and change comes out. Grocery stores already do this. There’s a unique number on all bills.

This isn't quite true. When I go to the store, I go to a teller quite often. The teller takes my money, and give me change, the serial numbers are not tracked.

It would be possible to this, but it's far more complicated than just tracking your credit card.

We need to start patrick.net-stan!

I might dedicate .22 acres towards patrick.net-stan in Texas near I-35 :).

1337irr says

We need to start patrick.net-stan!

I might dedicate .22 acres towards patrick.net-stan in Texas near I-35 :).

Does it have to be contiguous, or we are open to the idea of anclaves? If we are, I can chip in with some land in Scotland (it came with a bottle of scotch I've got for Xmas). It's not much, but then Kenigsberg is even more tiny compared to the rest of the CCCP.

1337irr says

We need to start patrick.net-stan!

https://www.moviequotedb.com/movies/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail/quote_15692.html

Dennis: What I object to is you automatically treatin' me like an inferior.
Arthur: Well, I am king.
Dennis: Oh, king, eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, then? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress--
Dennis: We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as sort-of-executive officer for the week--
Arthur: Yes.
Dennis: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting--
Arthur: Yes, I see.
Dennis: By a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs--
Arthur: [getting bored] Be quiet.
Dennis: But by a two thirds majority, in the case of more major--
Arthur: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
Dennis' Mother: Order, eh? Who does he think he is?
Arthur: I am your king!
Dennis' Mother: Well I didn't vote for you.
Arthur: You don't vote for kings!
Dennis' Mother: How'd you become king, then?
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, [Angel chorus begins singing in background] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [Angel chorus ends] That is why I am your king!
Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis: You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Arthur: Shut up!
Dennis: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Arthur: Shut up! Will you shut up?! [Grabs Dennis and shakes him]
Dennis: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Arthur: Shut up!
Dennis: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Patrick says

1337irr says

We need to start patrick.net-stan!

https://www.moviequotedb.com/movies/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail/quote_15692.html

Dennis: What I object to is you automatically treatin' me like an inferior.
Arthur: Well, I am king.
Dennis: Oh, king, eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, then? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress--
Dennis: We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as sort-of-executive officer for the week--
Arthur: Yes.
Dennis: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting--
Arthur: Yes, I see...

So King Patrick of patric.net-stan? Got a nice ring to it!

Now I just need some moist bint to hand me a sword to legitimate my rule.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bint

RWSGFY says

1337irr says

We need to start patrick.net-stan!

I might dedicate .22 acres towards patrick.net-stan in Texas near I-35 :).

Does it have to be contiguous, or we are open to the idea of anclaves? If we are, I can chip in with some land in Scotland (it came with a bottle of scotch I've got for Xmas). It's not much, but then Kenigsberg is even more tiny compared to the rest of the CCCP.

Let's do it!

Patrick says

What I object to is you automatically treatin' me like an inferior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pQkiKkY8U

If you want to watch the scene.

I live this stuff in real life, I don't just philosophize about it from behind a screen. And I read books about it, I don't just make shit up in my head.

I have no intention of doxing myself. One of my sources died last year that was a long time family friend. $600M market cap bank he bought half the shares plus during the housing bust. He was the majority share holder in a decent sized bank. Another is a former high school classmate that got busted slowly stealing $150k cash from the bank she worked at. That was in 2005. It wasn't cameras. They tracked the cash. I'm also not searching about tracking/hiding cash to prove a point on the internet for Christ sake.

Listen I get you guys don't like anecdotal evidence, but I'm not searching out links on it besides the ones below to prove my point that cash isn't your friend necessarily. These are people I personally know that got caught stealing cash and or handled hundreds of millions of it annually. They're not selling a BS book with clickbait titles to scare people. They know cash first hand more than anyone on this forum.

Maybe check out this link: https://www.cashseizurelaw.com/why-the-cops-can-seize-your-cash-and-often-keep-it/
Cops ain't taking my credit card. And if they do I can lock it immediately and it would be a crime for them to use it and I can dispute it if they do. I don't gamble but the example of a good night at a casino could easily get confiscated for a tail light being out. Any cash really could be confiscated. I don't like those odds. That includes your home.

I don't do anything illegal so I don't give a shit if they know I bought a case of beer to drink at home or a bikini for my wife. This idea that cash hides you is wrong. FDIC knows all your transactions with the bank as well so they know what needs to be insured. It's not just the $10k withdrawal trigger. That's for the FBI and the other 3 letter agencies.

Cash should only be held in a safe at your home, bolted to the floor. Preferably hidden. Use credit and if you need to deposit said cash to pay the bill just do that. You're at a far greater risk using cash if you're not doing anything illegal. So just use OPM and get a 3-6% return on your cash via points and pay off the CC monthly. It's better than a CD, your bank account or in a safe (unless you're uber wealthy)

What is not getting through is that tracking is much more advanced than you even know regardless of a digital currency. No point in putting a serial number on a bill, scan it incoming through a machine and not track it to make sure it's not a forfeit. Banks and merchants would never do that. Just like Casinos don't use facial recognition tech since the early 2000's. But hey, cash is king. Until a townie cop takes it because a K-9 smelled trace drug residue on bills given to you at Walmart.

I don't get this topic with you guys. I go to the source. Not written. Not online. PEOPLE that work in these realms that don't need to sell a book. We literally have a digital national currency. Does no one here not remember the 80's-90's?? I'd go to Ace Hardware with my dad and the old slider thingy for getting CC info. That's easily done now digitally at the bank with bills and when the armored truck drops it at the bank in cash. Those trucks go to multiple vendors and document everything. Same with the ATM. Self checkout. Fine it works at a flea market, or buying drugs, or tipping. But to trust the Federal government or bank with anything is insane or any merchant.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-law-enforcement-targets-fraud-facilitators-doubling-last-year-s-enforcement
Just another branch that can take your cash on a suspicion. You are guilty out of the gate with cash. You can't confiscate debt because it's not illegal to not pay it. It just destroys your credit and you can't borrow more. I lived this with short sale clients during the bust. They were all freaked out but most bought again in 3-7 years after dumping the debt. They lost $0 of cash.

Cash is a one and done transaction. Fine, go bitch on Yelp with bad service. The money is gone. I can get my "credit" back with a dispute with 2-3 mouse clicks. There are so many advantages. You WANT data to fuck with them to say it wasn't you if you are a criminal. Otherwise I can promise they can get video footage of everyone at that restaurant that paid cash that day, or gas station and plug it into a database because 98% of people need a photo ID to survive.

Again don't believe me. You guys don't know what you're talking about is all. Sorry I can't link it. There have been a couple psychos on this site that have caused problems in the past. I can give plenty of links of names and you could cross reference them. I prefer my privacy.

WookieMan says

Another is a former high school classmate that got busted slowly stealing $150k cash from the bank she worked at. That was in 2005. It wasn't cameras. They tracked the cash.

This is common. They had the serial numbers and tracked the serial numbers, and then correlated this to a location and used that to find a suspect. They knew the theft was going on, at the banks then correlated the cash coming in, and found the general location, and correlated that to an employee. They couldn't trace it to a specific person, they just used it to find a general location where the money was being spent, and find the likely locations that employee would be spending money.

What you saw was a sting operation, and a good one. It's unusual to see competence in the government for me. Good for them.

Patrick says

Now I just need some moist bint to hand me a sword to legitimate my rule.

I'm no moist bint but I might have a spare sword on the boat that I can give you.

WookieMan says

I have no intention of doxing myself. One of my sources died last year that was a long time family friend. $600M market cap bank he bought half the shares plus during the housing bust. He was the majority share holder in a decent sized bank. Another is a former high school classmate that got busted slowly stealing $150k cash from the bank she worked at. That was in 2005. It wasn't cameras. They tracked the cash. I'm also not searching about tracking/hiding cash to prove a point on the internet for Christ sake.

I have no idea what the correlation is with the first person. Last time I checked, shareholders aren't clocking in at the business they own shares in every day, rolling their sleeves and learning a trade. They're just investors.

On the other example, I already said they track bank thieves, so that's neither new, nor relevant. The other example, drug cartels. Now, not letting you weasle out of your exaggeration. Prove dollars I put into a self-checkout are tracked, or get the fuck off the pot.

I would say one good benefit of a cashless society is a decrease in robbery, at least one could hope. Thoughts?

1337irr says

I would say one good benefit of a cashless society is a decrease in robbery, at least one could hope. Thoughts?

One of the male singers from ABBA has been pushing that point for years. He has been actively lobbying for Sweden to adopt a cashless society in order to make crime "impossible." No more muggings.

1337irr says

I would say one good benefit of a cashless society is a decrease in robbery, at least one could hope. Thoughts?

The biggest criminal is the government.

When people sent money to the Canadian "freedom convoy" with gofundme, gofundme just kept the money. They didn't return the money and they didn't send it to the convoy and this was done with government approval.

NuttBoxer says

I have no idea what the correlation is with the first person. Last time I checked, shareholders aren't clocking in at the business they own shares in every day, rolling their sleeves and learning a trade. They're just investors.

He was on the board as the majority shareholder... He controlled the bank and knew all the inner workings.

NuttBoxer says

On the other example, I already said they track bank thieves, so that's neither new, nor relevant. The other example, drug cartels. Now, not letting you weasle out of your exaggeration. Prove dollars I put into a self-checkout are tracked, or get the fuck off the pot.

Watch the video: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition
This was 2005: https://www.forbes.com/2005/10/18/money-counterfeit-digital-cx_dl_1018money.html?sh=71e89f757478
Another quick search: https://www.cranepi.com/en/products/cash-processing/note-processing/money-counters/jetscan-law-enforcement
Patent from 2008: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/af/b4/a7/57d6539570c9f7/US7419088.pdf
Basic Apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.provera.mikicap.dollarverificationassistant&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1
Another Machine: https://www.hyundaimib.com/tech-guide/ocr/
Money is tracked from the word go: http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/number.html

Money is tracked at as many points as possible. This is just fact. Every serial number on a bill is in a database unless someone hoarded it from like the 50's. The first link is EASILY put into a bill scanner right next to the touch screen computer you're using, that's then linked back to a server. OCR tech is super easy to implement. That's what is on those scanners. Again, test your luck, but put in a fake bill. How do you think the machine knows it's fake? It's scanning the damn bill dude.

Technically it costs establishments MORE money to take cash between time, security and either running to the bank or using an armored truck service. Cash makes the costs of good rise. Loss of time. And is easy to lose. Cashless is coming in more places than you'll like. The cost in loss prevention with cash is insane. Customers AND employees.

Also I've told you I have a source. Cash is scanned every step of the way. I don't have to prove my source as I'd end up giving you and the entire internet my information basically. If you're looking to use stolen money then sure, waste time with a cashier. The bank owner I was talking about, and yes he owned the bank as a 50%+ shareholder. Was on the board. When you have $40M tied up in one entity, you tend to put a little work into it. Let me know if anyone on this forum has even $100k tied up in an individual stock let alone knows someone that owned a bank personally.

Doesn't matter either way. I'll take my 6% on average return on using the credit card, while you guys fiddle around with cash thinking you're hiding from the boogieman. Every swipe I make money and I pay it off. Or I have the option of not paying it off and taking a credit ding. Other little things like tipping. Cool, under tip because you only have a certain bill. Or over tip. Or make the person make change for you while every else then has to wait.

This comment might be personal, but it's apparent at this point that you're involved in illegal stuff. Cash is the worst thing to have and use. Did a dude do a line of blow with the bill in your pocket and you get hit by a drug dog? People have been arrested for drug residue on cash. Even if you don't get convicted good luck with those legal fees.... https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-13-me-62172-story.html Cash is a liability on so many levels.

richwicks says

1337irr says

I would say one good benefit of a cashless society is a decrease in robbery, at least one could hope. Thoughts?

The biggest criminal is the government.

When people sent money to the Canadian "freedom convoy" with gofundme, gofundme just kept the money. They didn't return the money and they didn't send it to the convoy and this was done with government approval.

Fair point, I think it's wise to consider leaving the country when that happens. I hope the US doesn't get there.

1337irr says

I would say one good benefit of a cashless society is a decrease in robbery, at least one could hope. Thoughts?

What about when they chop of your hand to get the chip to make online purchases? Robbery of paper decrease in exchange for robbery of limbs increase...

Maybe a bit facetious, but there's no perfect system, and the largest banks heists have all been online.

WookieMan says

This was 2005: https://www.forbes.com/2005/10/18/money-counterfeit-digital-cx_dl_1018money.html?sh=71e89f757478

This link backs up my point, not yours. Recognizing denomination is not tracking. The rest of them offer no direct correlation between your unfounded opinion that supermarket payments are tracked. A money counter machine used by banks or law enforcement is not hidden inside an auto checkout.

WookieMan says

This comment might be personal, but it's apparent at this point that you're involved in illegal stuff.

I don't think it's personal. I do think it's telling of your world outlook. You accept the curtails on your freedom when it comes to the digital world because you don't have the knowledge, or drive to resist. You subscribe to the dictum "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide." Despite the fact this saying was popularized under fascist regimes that routinely prosecuted regular people who had done nothing immoral.

And finally, you have the defeatist mentality of early conspiracy believers, who see the powers running things as god-like. They are anything but, and their system is falling down around their ears.

The most dangerous belief people like you hold is that law = morality. The worst atrocities in the world have been carried out under this belief.