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They’re not giving them any unemployment benefits.

Good point that it’s going to hurt the economy overall. Any of those workers will end up leaving New York for work.

A state with inadequate healthcare is a shithole state. But hey the cult will be proud to die from lack of care since it gives them an opportunity to blame the unvaxxed healthcare workers.

It’s all theater. They want to create the hugest crisis possible to take the most “emergency powers” possible. The crisis as is it was was not big enough for them. Kathy got a taste of power and she liked it.

The cruelty is the point, as they said about Trump.

WookieMan says

Misc says

It's gonna be a real mess in about 2 weeks.

It will be a mess overnight if 95k are canned and don't show for work. This is actual murder and should be considered a crime. I don't really think there's another description for it.

You've also now got 95k people that will have no income and maybe UE payouts, but you cannot cut 95k in one fell swoop and not have it hurt other businesses outside of healthcare. And yes, I know NY is huge population wise, but when we lose 95k jobs nationally, it is just that, national news. This is a single state.

All this shit over a vaccine that doesn't work and has side effects and absolutely no clue the long term effects 5+ years down the road. How in the flying fuck did we get here? Thank god I'm self employed.

HumanDartboard says

They’re not giving them any unemployment benefits.

I'm hoping you're wrong to be honest. I haven't looked into it. We've got inflation and you dump 95k people in a ditch and won't pay UE benefits? Not all of them can move. Your average nurse with 10 years in could be making $60-70k or more. That's a shit ton of money out of the economy. And it's health care workers in general it sounds like, so that could include docs and other specialist making $200-400k/yr.

I'd venture to guess getting fired from the medical field is probably one the worst jobs to be fired from and find gainful employment on the back end. Someone will hire them, but a termination regardless of reason in medicine seems like a tough recovery.

Ultimately this falls in the lap of Biden for allowing this and pushing it because he wanted cover for Afghanistan. I didn't vote for him, but as with any human I'll give you a chance. This has been the ultimate failure in my mind. The alternative is Harris, so I'd say we're stuck with Biden as I don't trust that bitch.

WookieMan says

I'd venture to guess getting fired from the medical field is probably one the worst jobs to be fired from and find gainful employment on the back end.

If they can travel they will make a shitload of money. Like literally 4x their old salary. Travel nurses are making a killing now.

In what imaginary world are there 95K trained unjabbed nurses in the NY National Guard that are otherwise sitting around at home doing nothing? If there are nurses in the NY National Guard, they already have a day job.

WookieMan says

I'm hoping you're wrong to be honest.

saw that on news - at least they threatened then with no unemployment benefits.

Nurses are in high demand everywhere. They can move to TX or FL and will be hired instantly...

There's only about 5500 NY guardsmen in total.

It's not just nurses but all the support staff as well. I'm sure there's doctors tossed in there as well.

Already from what I read about 1 in 5 people going to the ER don't get seen, and that's before the 95000 that got canned.

Remember they were fired for their own good as well as that of the patients' ----- liberal politicians really think that way

I'll make a tour of some Manhattan hospitals today to see if any of healthcare workers are protesting outside, and I'll lend them my support.

Misc says

It's gonna be a real mess in about 2 weeks.

Coinciding with the inevitable seasonal kick-off of respiratory virus season, during which the Vaxxxed majority might just find out what ADE means.

Blue says

It can't be hard to hide or manage the numbers that can includes killing “unvaccinated”

I have heard convincing arguments that the Vaxxx is directly and quickly killing 1 in 3000 that get it.
They are easily sweeping those deaths under the Delta Variant Rug. The Cult doesn't acknowledge you as one of their own if you die within 2 weeks of receiving the Hot Shot.

Robert Sproul says

I have heard convincing arguments that the Vaxxx is directly and quickly killing 1 in 3000 that get it.
They are easily sweeping those deaths under the Delta Variant Rug. The Cult doesn't acknowledge you as one of their own if you die within 2 weeks of receiving the Hot Shot.

And this guy might have found the precise reason for that.
https://patrick.net/post/1341563/2021-09-28-the-reason-so-many-are-dying-of-the-vax

DhammaStep says

I'll make a tour of some Manhattan hospitals today to see if any of healthcare workers are protesting outside, and I'll lend them my support.

Please let us know what you see.

Misc says

Remember they were fired for their own good as well as that of the patients' ----- liberal politicians really think that way

I don't understand it. My county here in IL is chill with restrictions, but 0.12% deaths out of total population that gets Covid. 1 in 1,000 basically. I'll take those odds as a mostly healthy person for a disease that kills really old or really unhealthy people. Let the other 999 of us live our lives.

Oh wait, more people are killed per capita in certain Chicago neighborhoods than Covid deaths per capita. Black lives matter though....

This could decimate upstate. Once you get outside of the NY metro area it gets rural and red real quick.

And its not just nurses.... what about doctors and / or hospital administrators? Support staff? Janitors? Etc.

Even if 80% are vaccinated that's a 20% reduction in staff overnight. National guard can only do so much to fill that gap.

There were staffing shortages before this. I don't see how this is legal, forcing people to get it or loose their livelihood? And to deny them unemployment as well?

Sad state of affairs.


https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/vaccination-rates-zip-code

Misc says

The governor will have to resign or go double down on crazy.

Haha, you know damned well she'll just double down on crazy.

It's clown world after all!

Misc says

Hopefully Biden's handlers will see the folly of vax mandates and stop the madness before he rolls it out nationwide.

NO.

Don't you people realize we've have a shitty, criminal, government for decades? They've been harassing, cajoling, lying, threatening the citizenry for YEARS. The cattle has gone along with it, over and over and over again. I'm fucking sick of it.

We can't VOTE to reform this government, we can't protest it, we cannot do anything at all - other than replace it.

We've been lied into murdering people in Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and probably Afghanistan. There's 500 people in prison for walking into the "People's" Building on January 6th. For 9 months we put up with Antifa and BLM burning, looting and murdering people, NOBODY is in jail. The police's motto is to "serve and protect" - serve and protect who?

Every soldier swears "I, ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

When are they going to uphold that oath? They won't. They simply won't. They never will.

So turn up the heat government, keep making it more and more uncomfortable. Burn people.

Because it's not mass murder that will get the population to put their government in check, it's not allowing them to use taxpayer money to fund criminals on wall street that will get the population off their ass. It's not consistent and OBVIOUS propaganda bullshit that will get them off their butts. A stolen election stirred them a tiny bit. They didn't do anything about the FBI and intelligence agencies trying to oust a president for 4 years. Promotion of transgendered children didn't get the population even miffed.

In the last 20 years, all I've learned is that ONLY thing that will get the land of the "free and brave" off their FUCKING assholes, is to hurt them.

So, I wish you all pain. That's the ONLY thing that will have any hope, at all, in fixing this country. If you don't fix this country, this is the next Nazi Germany, and this flag:



will be just as highly regarded as this flag is:



Within 50 years. I'm tired of people sitting on their assholes and just accepting anything. Your government is just as criminal, just as dishonest, just as ruthless as anybody in Germany's government was in 1940. Stop being the good Germans. Fucking tired of it.

And the ONLY way to get you to stop, is to have this criminal, sociopathic, government to cause MORE pain. So bring it on.

Misc says

There's only about 5500 NY guardsmen in total.

It's very obvious the Governor's entire team failed to even pretend like they had run some numbers before making this threat. Or worse, they knew it was a hollow bluff and assumed the hospital staff would cave.

mell says

S. Texas Latinas if elected will have an enormous entertainment value due to their fiery personalities.

Side comment without derailing the thread. I (white guy) have spent half a century living among and even dating Latinas. Everyone I hear invoking the "spicy Latina" trope appears to have gained all their knowledge and experience of Latinas mainly by watching Sofia Vergara's annoying character on TV.

richwicks says

In the last 20 years, all I've learned is that ONLY thing that will get the land of the "free and brave" off their FUCKING assholes, is to hurt them.

The last time we had real pain was during the depths of the depression in the 1930's. It was parents watching their children slowly starve that stoked the fires of revolution. The new deal was enacted to stave off the revolution. That's how FDR sold it to his fellow plutocrats.

I wait, I sharpen the tines of my pitchfork, I tar the torch . . . soon , , ,

Misc says

They are not going to come back.

Probably busy packing bags and planning their move to other states.

WookieMan says

HumanDartboard says

They’re not giving them any unemployment benefits.

I'm hoping you're wrong to be honest.

It's true. No unemployment if you have been discriminated against due to unvaxxed status.

The corporate-government-wokeness complex is now deliberately altering rules specifically to harm people smart enough to stay away from the vaxx.

OSHA is also making an exception whereby employers are specifically not required to report harms caused by the jab mandates. But they are still required to report other occupational injuries as usual. Not making this up.

T could Blue says

WookieMan says

This is actual murder and should be considered a crime.

So far they're planning number game which is working out. It can't be hard to hide or manage the numbers that can includes killing “unvaccinated” to show their moral superiority. No rational person can trust the system anymore. We are living in dangerous times. Stay healthy and safe.

Don’t forget, Iran is provoking a war with Israel that could break out any minute. This is the type of conflict that could easily escalate or entice a rouge element to do something really stupid/unexpected.

So add that that e list of challenges for this fall, shortages, lies, possible wars and all for most part avoidable if the powers that be would pull he right heads out of their rectums. But that is the point isn’t it, they thrive on crisis because it is the easiest way to achieve compliance by the sheep.

zzyzzx says

Misc says

They are not going to come back.

Probably busy packing bags and planning their move to other states.

True. This healthcare worker shortage is now permanent. In three or four months Hochul is going to be on TV begging the fired workers to return and won’t get many takers. She will offer back pay if they come back, and still get a Fuck You from the workers. New York is irreversibly fucked thanks to Demoncrat “leadership.”

Shaman says

Hochul is going to be on TV begging the fired workers to return and won’t get many takers. She will offer back pay if they come back,

Offering incentives does not seem to be her style. She prefers threats and other manifestation of raw power. More likely she will threaten to confiscate any accumulated retirement credits for those who do not return. And what the hell happened to old time Unions? Old time Unions would never tolerate Hochul bringing in Filipino nurses, as that is tantamount to scab labor practices.

DhammaStep says

I'll make a tour of some Manhattan hospitals today to see if any of healthcare workers are protesting outside, and I'll lend them my support.

Update: limited schedule so I was only able to scope out two locations. Zero protesting, could be from the rain. Could be those that were removed have already moved on.

One observation though, much of the medical staff I saw looked young. Almost not even out of college yet young.

I'll keep updating as I gain more observations.

Shaman says

In three or four months Hochul is going to be on TV begging the fired workers to return and won’t get many takers.

Won't get any takers. Nobody regrets leaving NY.

Patrick says

OSHA is also making an exception whereby employers are specifically not required to report harms caused by the jab mandates.

Holy crap, I just checked and it's TRUE.

DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Source, scroll down to "Vaccine related" https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs

Bd6r says

Nurses are in high demand everywhere. They can move to TX or FL and will be hired instantly...

This should be something that could be determined in real time by policy makers or interested media, by poling travel/transient nursing personnel agencies. Whatever the hell services that exist to service these needs must have up to the minute data.

PeopleUnited says

Don’t forget, Iran is provoking a war with Israel that could break out any minute.

Oh bullshit.

We all know goddamned well that if Israel gets into a war, the US will fight it - and that includes the Iranians.

Robert Sproul says

This should be something that could be determined in real time by policy makers or interested media, by poling travel/transient nursing personnel agencies. Whatever the hell services that exist to service these needs must have up to the minute data.

I was thinking that the traveling nurses were scoping out places to consider permanently relocating to....

HeadSet says

And what the hell happened to old time Unions?

Unions have nearly universally sold out their membership to the vax nazis. We’ve known that union leaders were lefties, but we didn’t realize how utterly derelict they were capable of being when their true loyalties to Democrats conflicted with the duties to their members.

Shaman says

HeadSet says

And what the hell happened to old time Unions?

Unions have nearly universally sold out their membership to the vax nazis. We’ve known that union leaders were lefties, but we didn’t realize how utterly derelict they were capable of being when their true loyalties to Democrats conflicted with the duties to their members.

There ain't no Jimmy Hoffa's anymore

Thatmell says

There ain't no Jimmy Hoffa's anymore

Not only that, but there's plenty of room beside his corpse in the endzone of Giant's Field.

Lee Zelden is just a candidate - no probe will happen.

The moral turpitude of modern day leftoids is unrivaled

mell says

The moral turpitude of modern day leftoids is unrivaled

Hardly. In the USSR kids would denounce their parents which would lead to their execution.

Pavlik Morozov is a famous example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov

He was a martyr according to the government. He was murdered by his father's family. Most of the story was likely falsified, but there were believers. The story was used for decades

So, we're not there yet.

richwicks says

mell says

The moral turpitude of modern day leftoids is unrivaled

Hardly. In the USSR kids would denounce their parents which would lead to their execution.

Pavlik Morozov is a famous example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov

He was a martyr according to the government. He was murdered by his father's family. Most of the story was likely falsified, but there were believers. The story was used for decades

So, we're not there yet.

That was 100 years ago, we should enlighten with time, similar to the fact that we're not in the middle ages anymore. For today it comes very close, Russian roulette with a good chance of premature death or lose your livelihood.

mell says

That was 100 years ago, we should enlighten with time, similar to the fact that we're not in the middle ages anymore. For today it comes very close, Russian roulette with a good chance of premature death or lose your livelihood.

We have enlightened, but don't you realize they are trying pull us back?

I used to view televangelists and religion as being the threat, and that threat was diminished, but the new tact is communism. The problem as I see it is we have a deeply uninformed public. Our government was promoting religious insanity in the 1980's now they are promoting communism. We defeated the first, now we have to defeat the second.

The worry though is that defeating the 2nd, that can lead to a demand for an absolute rule, a sort of fascism. I expect the next push (and we can already see it) will be for a new feudalism.

We are improving however, I see education being decimated, youtube is filled with nonsense "science" now, propaganda is constantly promoted as "truth". The establishment is getting more desperate and more dangerous, but they aren't worldwide. Even if the United States fails, we have to make certain other nations don't.

The Internet is a cornucopia of information but it has more bullshit today than it did 20 years ago. I think that can be corrected.

There really is a war between good and evil. Never thought I'd say that 20 years ago, but it's obvious to me now. There's a real force to keep people ignorant and helpless versus a force that wants to free everybody. Everybody is better off in an enlightened society, except the scammers, the liars, the parasites - that's who runs our society.

https://slaynews.com/news/gov-hochul-refuses-rehire-fired-unvaxxed-healthcare-workers-mandate-overturned-shortage/

Gov Hochul Refuses to Re-Hire Fired Unvaxxed Healthcare Workers after Mandate Overturned, Despite Shortage