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Not sure I really care what anyone has to say about Covid. What I've personally witnessed is a huge nothing burger. I know other people have seen or experienced it different, even users here, but Covid is mainly nothing. It's not worth the hype.

If we're focused on death and hospitalization, we should maybe focus on heart disease and obesity first. Covid doesn't crack the top 10 for causes of death with true and accurate data. Hell, half of Covid deaths could have been avoided with less fat and unhealthy people.

I think that you can stop at "The CDC......." and just fill in the blanks with any wistful, entirely made up, outrageous lie that serves Pharma. The basketball players are set pieces.

Ceffer says

I think that you can stop at "The CDC......."

This.

Everything they have said has been a lie.

From vaxx numbers, to vaxx safety, to social distancing recommendations, to asymptomatic transmission etc...

They also lied bigly when they said 99% of people going to the ER were unvaxxed, when in reality, they were using data from 2020, before the vaxx was even available to pump numbers.

The only appropriate words that come to my mind are "fuck them."

You want the truth? That's so funny.

False. I got coof only AFTER vaccination, before I was immune and did not get it even after hours in closed car with someone coughing on me

There are some people who are very vulnerable to Covid. My wife’s ex brother in law (58) just died of Covid in hospital last week. I’ve never met the guy but he did father a couple of kids I have met. His brother also died of Covid, so I think there’s some genetics at play here.

On a related note, I’ve come across some very technical info about Covid and the vaxx that explains long Covid and many of the vaxx injuries. The problem is with the antibodies produced to the spike proteins. The binding sites of the spike proteins are too perfect a match to the ACE2 receptors of the cells. So when you generate antibodies to the spike, you make something that binds not only spike, but can work as an antigen itself. So you generate antibodies to the antibodies, and THOSE rampage through your system causing inflammation where they bind to cells, and are then attacked by other antibodies and T-cells. The inflammation is systemic and can cause everything from:
1)vascular damage
2)heart damage
3)nerve damage from inflammation. There’s something here about the nerves that travel through apertures in your skull, like optic nerves and nerves for hearing. They get inflammation and swell, putting pressure on them which causes the nerve impulses to short circuit and misfire. This causes tinnitus or vision issues which have become very common especially in the vax injured.

Shaman says

There are some people who are very vulnerable to Covid. My wife’s ex brother in law (58) just died of Covid in hospital last week. I’ve never met the guy but he did father a couple of kids I have met. His brother also died of Covid, so I think there’s some genetics at play here.

On a related note, I’ve come across some very technical info about Covid and the vaxx that explains long Covid and many of the vaxx injuries. The problem is with the antibodies produced to the spike proteins. The binding sites of the spike proteins are too perfect a match to the ACE2 receptors of the cells. So when you generate antibodies to the spike, you make something that binds not only spike, but can work as an antigen itself. So you generate antibodies to the antibodies, and THOSE rampage through your system causing inflammation where they bind to cells, and are then attacked by other antibodies and T-cells. The inflammation is systemic and can cause everything from:
1)vascular damage<...

About a year ago, I remember having a long conversation with my father in law about Covid. We basically agreed that there is no right or wrong decision. Too many unknowns and lies. Good luck to all.

WineHorror1 says

So you generate antibodies to the antibodies, and THOSE rampage through your system causing inflammation where they bind to cells,

Anti-idiotype antibodies. This was actually pursed as a cancer vaccine strategy.

The guy I know in Florida who works in a hospital said a few months ago that the people who were very sick were mostly unvaccinated, for what it’s worth.
He said that they hadn’t put a vaccinated person on a ventilator yet.
He was answering my questions, he didn’t go around telling people to take the shots.

Shaman says

so I think there’s some genetics at play here.

Wild guess: These guys were quite overweight.

clambo says

He was answering my questions, he didn’t go around telling people to take the shots.

Question is did he take the vax? There's huge vaccine remorse and it will never be reported and he probably wouldn't mention it. A lot in the medical field are justifying it because they didn't put someone vaxxed on a ventilator yet, which isn't even what should be done. Wife has dozens of emails with educated, engineer level people emailing her about vaccine issues they have in private. No one can publicly say anything on most popular platforms because it is censored.

No one is going to admit they feel like shit after taking something that was supposed to help them either unless it's to a close friend. Humans tend to not admit when they're wrong. They change the narrative or blame something else.

With our Thanksgiving outbreak in multiple families everyone had the same symptoms, vaccinate or not. The only thing I could maybe, maybe recommend the vax for is you get healthy faster or older people. But everyone was in different health, smokers, non-smokers, overweight, etc. so it's hard to tell. I don't think the risk of vaccinate for this virus is worth it for those under 50 and mostly healthy. If you're 40 and can run a 10 minute or less mile (yes, slow) you don't need this vaccine.

Taste and smell are finally coming back for me. My shit now stinks again. If you get the smell symptom it's the strangest of strange things.

Shaman says

This causes tinnitus or vision issues which have become very common especially in the vax injured.

My tinnitus has been awful lately. Keep me awake bad. Hard to tell if Covid, I didn't get the vax. The show I went to in Nashville was the loudest I've been to. I've played a couple hundred shows as a drummer and probably a thousand plus practices with minimal or no ear protection. And also probably 500 live shows I've attended of other bands. God damn, my ears are going to be fucked thinking about the numbers and volume.

I've been having issues with reading/seeing too. Might be age though. Have been to the eye doctor, he was a touch concerned given my age, but he said it can change quickly near 40-50. I might be an early bloomer for the readers.

just_passing_through says

Shaman says

so I think there’s some genetics at play here.

Wild guess: These guys were quite overweight.

Right, my first thought is not that genetics are at play. My first thought is these guys are fat as all hell.

clambo says

The guy I know in Florida who works in a hospital said a few months ago that the people who were very sick were mostly unvaccinated, for what it’s worth.
He said that they hadn’t put a vaccinated person on a ventilator yet.
He was answering my questions, he didn’t go around telling people to take the shots.

How can he know who is vaxxed or not? There is no database, correct?

ThereBayArea says

just_passing_through says

Shaman says

so I think there’s some genetics at play here.

Wild guess: These guys were quite overweight.

Right, my first thought is not that genetics are at play. My first thought is these guys are fat as all hell.

Possible, but even most fatties do just fine with the Coof. There are other variables, vitamin d deficiency, the dose of virus or amount of exposure and did they initiate any effective treatment early after infection? These are just a few variables that have nothing to do with genetics or obesity.

BayArea says

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The CDC reports that those who are unvaccinated are 9 times more likely to be admitted to the hospital and 14 times more likely to die from COVID than those vaccinated.

Woah, that's far far beyond even Pfizer's claim, which is that the vaxx reduces the risk of death from Wuhan Virus by about 50%, iirc.

And Pfizer's conveniently omitting the increase in risk of other kinds of death, like myocarditis and blood clots.

WookieMan says

Question is did he take the vax?

Perfect question!! Of course he did and now he's in doubt and looking for justification.

WookieMan says

No one is going to admit they feel like shit after taking something that was supposed to help them either unless it's to a close friend. Humans tend to not admit when they're wrong. They change the narrative or blame something else.

You nailed it

Pretty much everyone in my network except for a few "lucky" admitted they felt like shit from the jab/booster. They even take days of work off. But they often claim it's better than the alternative which in their propaganda filled mindset is !demise!by!covid! Esp. With the mildness of the current strains one should clearly see the jab is far worse.

mell says

Pretty much everyone in my network except for a few "lucky" admitted they felt like shit from the jab/booster

I felt like I had the flu for about a half-day after the second vaccination.

My otherwise healthy friend died in his sleep a few days after his second vaccination.

So, I am done with the mRNA vaccinations, boosters, etc.

WookieMan says

My tinnitus has been awful lately. Keep me awake bad. Hard to tell if Covid, I didn't get the vax.

Try some anti-inflammatory medications. You’ll have to get a prescription probably, but just say your back is fucked up and any doctor will give you those. Also you could try steroids. These could either help or make it worse, so take tentatively. The anti-inflammatory meds are a must tho. If the nerves that are inflamed are allowed to remained inflamed and scar, the damage will be permanent. You could also try some stem cell therapy. That’s been working for quite a number of vax injured, and since we’ve tied long Covid to that group, it’s worth a try.

just_passing_through says

Wild guess: These guys were quite overweight.

I’m not sure it’s that simple. This guy was a little overweight but not truly obese. I have no idea on his brother’s weight status. I know he did receive ivermectin at some point, so it wasn’t like there was no treatment.

Shaman says

just_passing_through says

Wild guess: These guys were quite overweight.

I’m not sure it’s that simple. This guy was a little overweight but not truly obese. I have no idea on his brother’s weight status. I know he did receive ivermectin at some point, so it wasn’t like there was no treatment.

Ivernectin needs to be given by within the first 5 days, like most antivirals with diminishing returns as the virus is mostly done replicating by then. The sooner the better, at symptom onset or even better prophylactic if exposure is certain.

Shaman says

I’m not sure it’s that simple.

Interesting... Well, it was just a wild guess.