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Church of globull warming and drought fully spiraling down the toilet


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2022 Jan 3, 4:49pm   117,919 views  909 comments

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Remember when this winter started with good rains in.the west all these articles by climate "scientists" and globahomo agitprop "news" corporations about how this will be a dry winter for the drought stricken west despite initial rains. Fuck you moron sell-outs, this will go down as one of the wettest winters in recent history in the west. Reservoirs should be full to the brim but I'm sure politicians made sure there is enough drainage and poor planning so they can keep promoting state of emergencies and fuck over their constituents.

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427   Patrick   2023 Aug 10, 10:50am  

Patrick says

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/08/09/what-heatwave-latest-data-show-july-temperature-in-u-s-was-normal/



What Heatwave? Latest Data Show July Temperature in U.S. was Normal



But:

https://notthebee.com/article/scientists-confirm-july-was-the-hottest-year-ever-recorded-in-the-earths-173-year-long-history

How can these be reconciled? Maybe since the second report is for the world, and the first is just for the US?
428   Patrick   2023 Aug 10, 11:08am  

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/08/10/coral-at-the-great-barrier-reef-holds-on-to-recent-record-gains-defying-all-doomsday-predictions/


Coral at the Great Barrier Reef Holds on to Recent Record Gains, Defying All Doomsday Predictions
429   Patrick   2023 Aug 10, 11:19am  

https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/climate-scientist-admits-the-overwhelming-consensus-is-manufactured/


We are told climate change is a crisis, and that there is an “overwhelming scientific consensus.”

“It’s a manufactured consensus,” climate scientist Judith Curry tells me.

She says scientists have an incentive to exaggerate risk to pursue “fame and fortune.”

She knows about that because she once spread alarm about climate change.

The media loved her when she published a study that seemed to show a dramatic increase in hurricane intensity. ...

“I was adopted by the environmental advocacy groups and the alarmists and I was treated like a rock star,” Curry recounts.

“Flown all over the place to meet with politicians.” ...

But then some researchers pointed out gaps in her research — years with low levels of hurricanes.

“Like a good scientist, I investigated,” says Curry.

She realized that the critics were right.

“Part of it was bad data. Part of it is natural climate variability.”

Curry was the unusual researcher who looked at criticism of her work and actually concluded: “They had a point.”

Then the Climategate scandal taught her that other climate researchers weren’t so open-minded.

Alarmist scientists’ aggressive attempts to hide data suggesting climate change is not a crisis were revealed in leaked emails.

“Ugly things,” says Curry.

“Avoiding Freedom of Information Act requests. Trying to get journal editors fired.”

It made Curry realize that there is a “climate-change industry” set up to reward alarmism.

“The origins go back to the . . . UN environmental program,” says Curry.

Some United Nations officials were motivated by “anti-capitalism. They hated the oil companies and seized on the climate change issue to move their policies along.”
430   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 10, 1:11pm  

"We are told climate change is a crisis, and that there is an "overwhelming scientific consensus."
"It’s a manufactured consensus," climate scientist Judith Curry tells me."

That is exactly what it is!

They censor all opposing data and studies and call the Global Warming fraud " an overwhelming scientific consensus."
431   richwicks   2023 Aug 10, 5:17pm  

The_Deplorable says

"We are told climate change is a crisis, and that there is an "overwhelming scientific consensus."
"It’s a manufactured consensus," climate scientist Judith Curry tells me."

That is exactly what it is!

They censor all opposing data and studies and call the Global Warming fraud " an overwhelming scientific consensus."


Yep, and I used to be a believer, up until 2005 or so.

None of their predictions have been correct, this indicates either the model is extremely flawed (if this is a science), or there is no model. I spent 15 years trying to find a model for climate prediction. We all have computers today that can EASILY simulate a computer from 20 years ago, no such model exists. You cannot test it.

I don't think there is a model.
434   Patrick   2023 Aug 11, 3:05pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/new-utopia-friday-august-11-2023


🌋 And there it was! In black and white, not a mirage. It must be that the global is actually warming so fast now, corporate media had to shatter its news embargo, now forced against its will to gently break the latest limited hangout to all the folks who depend on corporate media to know what to think. The truth, long dormant, erupted on the Associated Press yesterday in an article headlined, “Scientists look beyond climate change and El Niño for other factors that heat up Earth.”

Wait. There are other factors that heat up Earth? This is mind-blowing. Who knew?

Now don’t get me wrong. They’re not giving up on manmade warming, not at all. AP referred to the baffling, unidentified third cause as “an accomplice,” and reiterated several times that the “consensus” of lab-coated grant-chasers all agree that oil and natural gas are the “main” culprits. A hundred precent. And the international news agency even allowed that El Niño probably accounts for some part of the world’s increasing temperatures this summer.

But that’s when things got interesting:

But some researchers say another factor must be present. “What we are seeing is more than just El Nino on top of climate change,” Copernicus Director Carlo Buontempo said.

European climate agency Copernicus reported that July was one-third of a degree Celsius (six-tenths of a degree Fahrenheit) hotter than the old record. That’s a bump in heat in one month that is so recent and so big, especially in the oceans and even more so in the North Atlantic, that scientists are split on whether something else could be at work.

My gosh! I was biting my fingernails down into stumps. They were SO close to getting it. And in fact, right at that point in the story, before they even got to actually naming the volcano, they included a dramatic picture of it, a hint or preview if you will, of things bubbling just below the story’s surface.




... But then, the AP finally vented the theory that actually does make the most sense and has the most data supporting it, such as recently-increased water vapor measurements worldwide. You already know this one, because C&C covered it in my “Overheated” post. It’s Hunga Tonga. In the AP’s words:

In January 2022, the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai undersea volcano in the South Pacific blew, sending more than 165 million tons of water, which is a heat-trapping greenhouse gas as vapor … The volcano also blasted 550,000 tons (500,000 metric tons) of sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere. That amount of water "is so absolutely crazy, absolutely ginormous,” said Holger Vomel, a stratospheric water vapor scientist.

The AP finished up quoting some cherry-picked labcoats who disagree and think Hunga Tonga’s historic, record-shattering eruption has nothing whatever to do with anything. Purely coincidental. They suggested maybe the real cause is sunspots or decreased African sandstorms or something. Don’t you worry your pretty little heads about that big, mean volcano.

But the article proves the word is getting out about the volcano, and corporate media now must do damage control. CNN’s article is a kind of limited hangout, recognizing that the eruption happened while burying the story in a pile of multisyllabic gobbledygook. But the significant thing is the heating of the oceans is inconveniently accelerating so fast that they are struggling to blame it on decreasing human carbon emissions.

To all of you loyal readers who reposted, linked, and forwarded the Overheated post — it’s working!
437   Patrick   2023 Aug 14, 11:46am  

https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/nobel-prize-winner-john-clauser-climate


Dr. John Clauser, Nobel laureate in Physics 2022, recently made a remarkable statement: the climate narrative is a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people. My chest opened and filled with fresh relief as I read these words.
439   Patrick   2023 Aug 15, 10:48am  

Ah, this is how you deal with them:

440   richwicks   2023 Aug 15, 11:16am  

Patrick says

Ah, this is how you deal with them:




Don't you kind of feel sorry for these kids though? They have no clue. They really think the world is about to end unless something is done, and NOW!!!!
441   HeadSet   2023 Aug 15, 11:45am  

richwicks says

They really think the world is about to end unless something is done, and NOW!!!!

Or:
They are collecting a check. Notice how all Antifa stopped after Biden was installed.
442   richwicks   2023 Aug 15, 11:57am  

HeadSet says

They are collecting a check. Notice how all Antifa stopped after Biden was installed.


Oh, I know that Antifa was intelligence. They are still around, but now if they fuck around, they actually get prosecuted, and our news media ignores them.

I'm telling you, it's not difficult to find a "true believer" in the "climate emergency", especially among kids. You'll have a difficult time finding a kid that DOESN'T believe it. I think the narrative is falling apart though, they have been crying wolf for 35 years after all. It worked on me for about 20 years but all the predictions were wrong. I think it will be faster for these kids - they might be suckered for 10 years, maybe only 5. We have faster communication now, and we have the ability to record and pass around past predictions.
444   HeadSet   2023 Aug 15, 1:45pm  

richwicks says

I think it will be faster for these kids - they might be suckered for 10 years, maybe only 5.

They will be snookered as long as being a climate disciple gives them meaning.
445   richwicks   2023 Aug 15, 1:52pm  

HeadSet says

richwicks says


I think it will be faster for these kids - they might be suckered for 10 years, maybe only 5.

They will be snookered as long as being a climate disciple gives them meaning.


I don't think so. Being a government dupe isn't the fashionable thing to be today, and it never was actually.

When I was a kid, it was PERCEIVED that the government was ignoring "the coming emergency" in favor of corporate greed. Today, it's quite clear that the government is pushing this agenda and it's false. We simply didn't have the communication then as we do today. Even in the 1990's, all you got were the "random whacko" saying that climate change was a plot by the NWO. Well, they're right. All we heard of the NWO was George H. Bush mentioned it one time, and in such a way you couldn't tell if it was a one off, or some sort of nefarious group. Now that I've heard so many fucking politicians talk about it, it's obviously a group.
449   RWSGFY   2023 Aug 19, 11:57am  

Patrick says






They are not wrong - trees and lawns do lower summer temps locally.
450   Patrick   2023 Aug 19, 5:25pm  

But trees and lawns cost money in watering and maintenance, which is why they are often eliminated.
456   Patrick   2023 Aug 24, 12:51pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-climate-change-hoax/


Republican 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy declared during the first GOP primary debate that “climate change” is a “hoax.”

Ramaswamy triggered a furious response from the Fox News audience and his fellow candidates while making the bold declaration.

During the Fox News debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Ramaswamy came out swinging.

The successful American entrepreneur jumped in on a question about “climate change.”

Before others spoke, Ramaswamy said he was the only person on the debate stage that was “not bought and paid for.”

“Let us be honest as Republicans,” Ramaswamy said over the top of the other candidates as he took control of the conversation.

“I’m the only person on the stage who isn’t bought and paid for, so I can say this,” Ramaswamy said, provoking outrage from his rivals and boos from the audience.

“The climate change agenda is a hoax,” Ramaswamy declared.

“We have to declare independence from it,” he added as the crowd erupted.

“The reality is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy.”
458   AD   2023 Aug 28, 1:11pm  

Patrick says


“I’m the only person on the stage who isn’t bought and paid for, so I can say this,” Ramaswamy said, provoking outrage from his rivals and boos from the audience.


Yeah, Ramaswamy is worth about $1 billion. I think Trump is worth at least $5 billion going by all the estimates on his net worth ranging from Bloomberg to Forbes.

But one thing is that Ramaswamy is gaining popularity and exposure, which is going to help him later even if he loses. I don't see him going away into obscurity.

And he is right about energy and oil policies. Just look at North American and world rig counts on Ycharts.

Chevron's CEO said because of Birdbrain Biden's energy policies, there was less incentive for oil and gas companies to increase exploration and production.

Let alone look at electricity prices such as for Florida Power and Light, which is investing a lot in solar..

.
459   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 28, 3:05pm  

CO2 Does not control Temperature. It is Temperature that controls CO2...



See https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1695916387208777878
460   Patrick   2023 Aug 28, 8:01pm  

I hadn't hear that before, but I bet it's true.

https://netl.doe.gov/coal/carbon-storage/faqs/carbon-dioxide-101


Natural CO2 sources account for the majority of CO2 released into the atmosphere. Oceans provide the greatest annual amount of CO2 of any natural or anthropogenic source. Other sources of natural CO2 include animal and plant respiration, decomposition of organic matter, forest fires, and emissions from volcanic eruptions. There are also naturally occurring CO2 deposits found in formation layers within the Earth’s crust that could serve as CO2 sources.


Majority? How about 97%, is that possible?

Also interesting:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091230184221.htm


Is the airborne fraction of anthropogenic carbon dioxide increasing?
Date:
December 31, 2009
Source:
American Geophysical Union
Summary:
Most of the carbon dioxide emitted by human activity does not remain in the atmosphere, but is instead absorbed by the oceans and terrestrial ecosystems. However, some studies have suggested that the ability of oceans and plants to absorb carbon dioxide recently may have begun to decline and that the airborne fraction of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions is therefore beginning to increase. In contradiction to those studies, new research finds that the airborne fraction of carbon dioxide has not increased either during the past 150 years or during the most recent five decades.
461   HeadSet   2023 Aug 29, 7:17am  

Patrick says

Other sources of natural CO2 include animal and plant respiration

Plant respiration?
462   AmericanKulak   2023 Aug 29, 8:07am  

Plants diffuse CO2 out their leaves.


He said the carbon dioxide released by plants every year was now estimated to be about 10 to 11 times the emissions from human activities, rather than the previous estimate of five to eight times.

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/plants-release-more-carbon-dioxide-into-atmosphere-than-expected

Hmmm, maybe this explains why during the highest CO2 levels in history, was also the time we had massive plant life and forests stretching up into Svalbard
463   HeadSet   2023 Aug 29, 8:24am  

AmericanKulak says


Hmmm, maybe this explains why during the highest CO2 levels in history, was also the time we had massive plant life and forests stretching up into Svalbard

I dunno. Plants still use more CO2 during photosynthesis than they create during cellular respiration. I would say the high CO2 levels allowed that massive plant life to occur.
464   Patrick   2023 Aug 29, 10:30am  

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/environment/more-1600-scientists-including-nobel-laureates-declare-climate-crisis


More than 1,600 scientists, including two Nobel laureates, declare climate 'emergency' a myth

The global coalition of scientists say that politics and a journalistic frenzy has propelled a doomsday climate change hysteria. The signatories also ask other scientists to "address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming."
465   Patrick   2023 Aug 29, 5:48pm  

https://reason.com/2023/08/09/this-scientist-used-to-spread-climate-change-alarmism-now-shes-trying-to-debunk-it/


"I was adopted by the environmental advocacy groups and the alarmists and I was treated like a rock star," Curry recounts. "Flown all over the place to meet with politicians."

But then some researchers pointed out gaps in her research—years with low levels of hurricanes.

"Like a good scientist, I investigated," says Curry. She realized that the critics were right. "Part of it was bad data. Part of it is natural climate variability."

Curry was the unusual researcher who looked at criticism of her work and actually concluded "they had a point."

Then the Climategate scandal taught her that other climate researchers weren't so open-minded. Alarmist scientists' aggressive attempts to hide data suggesting climate change is not a crisis were revealed in leaked emails.

"Ugly things," says Curry. "Avoiding Freedom of Information Act requests. Trying to get journal editors fired."

It made Curry realize that there is a "climate change industry" set up to reward alarmism.

"The origins go back to the…U.N. environmental program," says Curry. Some U.N. officials were motivated by "anti-capitalism. They hated the oil companies and seized on the climate change issue to move their policies along."

The U.N. created the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

"The IPCC wasn't supposed to focus on any benefits of warming. The IPCC's mandate was to look for dangerous human-caused climate change." ...

This is how "manufactured consensus" happens. Even if a skeptic did get funding, it's harder to publish because journal editors are alarmists.

"The editor of the journal Science wrote this political rant," says Curry. She even said, "The time for debate has ended."

"What kind of message does that give?" adds Curry. Then she answers her own question: "Promote the alarming papers! Don't even send the other ones out for review. If you wanted to advance in your career, like be at a prestigious university and get a big salary, have big laboratory space, get lots of grant funding, be director of an institute, there was clearly one path to go."

That's what we've got now: a massive government-funded climate alarmism complex.

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