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Are you overweight, obese, at a healthy weight, or underweight?


               
2022 Jan 8, 8:15am   40,446 views  312 comments

by Al_Sharpton_for_President   follow (6)  

Overweight and obesity are defined as abnormal or excessive fat accumulation that presents a risk to health. In adults, a body mass index (BMI) over 25 is considered overweight, and over 30 is obese.

https://www.who.int/westernpacific/health-topics/obesity?source=patrick.net

BMI calculator:

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm?source=patrick.net

https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/english_bmi_calculator/bmi_calculator.html?source=patrick.net



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242   WookieMan   2025 Apr 7, 1:10pm  

Patrick says





This a fake meme? I assume so. That sounds so gross. You'd have to be buying that for an orphanage or prison. One of, if not the only Patnet posts that kind of wants to make me puke. And I like mac and cheese.
243   HeadSet   2025 Apr 7, 2:40pm  

WookieMan says

This a fake meme?

No, it is real. It is just a bucket with 180 packets of pasta and 180 packets of the cheese sauce. 20-year shelf life, so put it in the survival shelter.
246   HeadSet   2025 May 1, 6:39pm  

Patrick says





Nothing new. Women have been paying for many things throughout history by doing their squats over the right men.
249   WookieMan   2025 May 12, 3:35am  

Patrick says






Those are solely used by fat people for no reason that don't want to walk. 14-16 years old I worked at a grocery store. 95% didn't have a handicap thing in the windshield and I was in charge of picking them up when they'd just dump them in the parking lot. We're talking blocking parking spots in a busy store. Fat people are lazy, selfish and want attention because they sure as shit won't get it walking around. Worst of the worst when I had that first "real" job.
252   Patrick   2025 Jul 16, 9:34am  

https://ground.news/article/new-study-links-obesity-to-diet-not-lack-of-exercise


On July 16, 2025, a study was released in a prestigious scientific journal examining the factors contributing to obesity across 34 populations worldwide.

The study arose from rising obesity rates, especially in industrialized countries where total energy expenditure explains only about 10% of obesity's increase.

Examining 4,213 adults aged 18 to 60, researchers found that calorie intake, especially from ultra-processed foods, drives obesity more than physical activity levels.

Herman Pontzer, the study’s lead author, emphasized that consuming too many calories plays a central role in driving obesity in developed countries, particularly due to processed foods interfering with feelings of fullness and encouraging excess eating.

The study implies that reducing calories from ultra-processed foods may be the most effective strategy to combat the global obesity epidemic.
254   HeadSet   2025 Jul 16, 2:04pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says





Is this some method that Coke is using to keep Coke allowed for EBT purchase?
255   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Jul 16, 2:46pm  

HeadSet says

Is this some method that Coke is using to keep Coke allowed for EBT purchase?

Interesting angle!
256   WookieMan   2025 Jul 16, 3:07pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

HeadSet says


Is this some method that Coke is using to keep Coke allowed for EBT purchase?

Interesting angle!

Probably. I drink it 2-5 times a year and it's the cane sugar type. Kids don't have a ton, but when they do we get the stuff from Mexico in the bottles. Or so I have to believe. It does taste different/better. I just don't like caffeine. Turns me into Michael J Fox.
257   stereotomy   2025 Jul 16, 3:09pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says






In the PRNY, just before Passover, they put out "Passover Coke" made with real sugar. They'll bend the knee for the hebes, but not for anyone else.

Apologies to @Patrick. But this shit is evil. Real sugar for the Jews, and HFC's for the Goys.
258   Patrick   2025 Jul 17, 12:53pm  

stereotomy says

Real sugar for the Jews, and HFC's for the Goys.


@stereotomy Companies will do what makes money, and you're free to buy Passover Coke as well. If it's just Passover, then Jews are also drinking HFC most of the time. Anyway, all sugary drinks are poison.

If you want a bigger "conspiracy", note that most factory food is marked with a U in a circle, meaning the company has paid the Union of Orthodox Rabbis to certify that the food is kosher. And there are smaller competing kosher certification groups with other symbols.

There's not much benefit to being a Jew in America, except for good business networking opportunities at synagogues.

On the other hand, Jews in Israel benefit a lot at the expense of US taxpayers from the influence of AIPAC. I think that lobbying Congress on behalf of any foreign country should not be allowed, and dual passports should be banned. You're either American or you're not. China does not allow dual passports to avoid that conflict of loyalties.
259   WookieMan   2025 Jul 17, 1:19pm  

Patrick says

You're either American or you're not. China does not allow dual passports to avoid that conflict of loyalties.

90% agree with this. But, what if they are allies? My former boss has dual US and Italian citizenship (born here). He plans to send his kids to college in Italy for free outside of lodging and flights. That's a massive savings. He's Italian but he's American first. If you can take advantage of loop holes I'd say do it. 2 kids, 8 years of tuition for free. Most people would try to take advantage of that.

He planned to stay here the last time I talked to him, but he has no loyalty to Italy. Just wants free school for his kids. I hate the guy, but it's kind of smart. I kind of hope his kids stay there permanently because if his offspring are like him I don't want them in this country. Dude was a whacko.
260   HeadSet   2025 Jul 17, 2:24pm  

Patrick says

Anyway, all sugary drinks are poison.

Ironic from the man whole took nature's wholesome organic plums from his backyard and converted them into alcoholic swill via yeast piss. Added sugar to it, to boot. Besides, Sundrop is the exemption to the "all sugary drinks are poison."
261   mell   2025 Jul 17, 2:49pm  

HeadSet says


Patrick says


Anyway, all sugary drinks are poison.

Ironic from the man whole took nature's wholesome organic plums from his backyard and converted them into alcoholic swill via yeast piss. Added sugar to it, to boot. Besides, Sundrop is the exemption to the "all sugary drinks are poison."


Fermented sugar is much healthier though. Pretty much everything fermented is good for you. Also if you run all day and readily deplete your glycogen store you can have quite a lot of sugar.
262   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Jul 17, 3:18pm  

Me likem kombucha. Synergy is my fave.
263   Patrick   2025 Jul 17, 5:13pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


Anyway, all sugary drinks are poison.

Ironic from the man whole took nature's wholesome organic plums from his backyard and converted them into alcoholic swill via yeast piss. Added sugar to it, to boot. Besides, Sundrop is the exemption to the "all sugary drinks are poison."


Pretty soon it will all be alcohol instead of sugar! There are some health benefits to alcohol in moderation, but I don't think there are any to sugar.

Why would Sundrop be any better?

I have a Chinese friend who once told me his investment strategy of owning Coke stock and stock in dialysis centers. That way he makes profits both from causing diabetes and from treating it!
264   HeadSet   2025 Jul 17, 6:58pm  

Patrick says

Why would Sundrop be any better?

Because I like to drink it. Same logic as the claim of the health benefits of alcohol in moderation by folks who like to get a buzz on. Alcohol in moderation is metabolized by the liver, but even that is toxic process. Any amount that gets past the liver can damage every organ in the body. The medical press overwhelmingly pushes that there is no safe level of alcohol consumption, but you may find a puff piece on the Today Show types claiming that alcohol may have something like heart health benefits. Sponsored by Anheuser-Busch Inc.
265   mell   2025 Jul 17, 10:42pm  

HeadSet says


Patrick says


Why would Sundrop be any better?

Because I like to drink it. Same logic as the claim of the health benefits of alcohol in moderation by folks who like to get a buzz on. Alcohol in moderation is metabolized by the liver, but even that is toxic process. Any amount that gets past the liver can damage every organ in the body. The medical press overwhelmingly pushes that there is no safe level of alcohol consumption, but you may find a puff piece on the Today Show types claiming that alcohol may have something like heart health benefits. Sponsored by Anheuser-Busch Inc.


That's not true. All studies showed some improvements for light drinkers consistent with earlier studies, for heart attacks, diabetes, and some substance like red wine have even more protective effects, they just added in deaths from accidents under the influence (e.g. car accidents) and any disease they could think of where alcohol "may" contribute. The medical establishment has been on a crusade against alcohol lately, probably to cover up all the other shit they caused and missed, such as the toxxine fiasco.

Case in point, alcohol consumption has been steadily declining for most Western countries over the years, zoomers hardly drink at all, yet most diseases linked to alcohol have increased in occurrence and longevity in the US has actually declined during the same time frame. If there is a link wrt social/casual drinking it's too weak to be of any significance.
266   HeadSet   2025 Jul 18, 6:32am  

mell says

some substance like red wine have even more protective effects

Grape juice has those same protective effects. If you want to deink, go ahead. Just do not claim it improves health.
267   HeadSet   2025 Jul 18, 6:44am  

mell says

All studies showed some improvements for light drinkers

Not the Mayo Clinic
Research on alcohol suggests a sobering conclusion: Drinking alcohol in any amount carries a health risk. While the risk is low for moderate intake, the risk goes up as the amount you drink goes up.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/alcohol/art-20044551

Be careful about those studies that use a group that "drinks moderately" but includes a crowd that typically also keeps their weight down and exercise regularly (i.e. Mediterranean). Also studies that are predominately wine drinkers, as the benefits from the wine are from other ingredients besides alcohol.
268   mell   2025 Jul 18, 4:47pm  

HeadSet says


mell says


some substance like red wine have even more protective effects

Grape juice has those same protective effects. If you want to deink, go ahead. Just do not claim it improves health.


The fermentation process increases the various antioxidants, esp. the polyphenols (resveratrol etc.). Plus the amount of sugar is higher in grape juice. Certain benefits you cannot have without the alcohol. I do claim it improves health given all the data at hand, of course it is hard to stay within the limits if you don't specifically do it for health reasons.
271   Patrick   2025 Jul 29, 8:44pm  




Factory food, canola oil, tons of sugar.
272   HeadSet   2025 Jul 30, 8:49am  

Patrick says




Factory food, canola oil, tons of sugar.

Not sugar. Sodas were popular and everyone put lumps of sugar into coffee and tea. Even as late as the mid 1960s, "shot with sugar" was a brag for breakfast cereals. Moms also put lots of sugar inro home baked cakes, pies, and cookies. Frosting was sugar blended into lard, butter, or veggie grease like Crisco. Sugar cubes were everywhere even at the doctor's office to serve drops of medicine to kids. Sugar is 15 calories per teaspoon; it is not the culprit. Look more toward portion size and lack of activity. The 1950s types drank a single glass bottle of Coke after playing a baseball game or riding bikes, today's youngsters suck down a Big Gulp while sitting playing hours of Fortnite.
273   RC2006   2025 Jul 30, 9:09am  

When i was a kid there was a ton of surgar in everything, we were drinking kool-aid and sodas all the time along with all the other goodies. But we were all extreamly active. I think that childhood activity conditions our metabolism at least into the late 20s. Kids now are not even 1/10th as active especially in the cities. I'm sure some of it is just lower quality food but the activity difference has to be more of an issue.
274   stereotomy   2025 Jul 30, 1:39pm  

Best never to get on the sugar treadmill; at the very least, take sugar in the form of whole foods and fruits (although fructose is metabolized by the liver, not the salivary glands/stomach as occurs for sucrose).

It's taken me the better part of 10 years to finally kick the sugar habit. No more spikes in blood sugar with attendant insulin nuking. Intermittent fasting is now possible for me - one carb-free snack and then dinner in the evening. Nutrient dense foods - lots of 100% grass fed meat, fattier cuts or ground is preferred because it's rich in omega-3 as opposed to omaga-6 inflammatory seed oil fats.
275   WookieMan   2025 Jul 30, 1:45pm  

HeadSet says

Look more toward portion size and lack of activity.

This. I don't finish most meals when going out to eat. Breakfast I do 2 scrambled eggs, cottage cheese and wheat toast. I'll finish that. Lunch or dinner though going out, shit.... I'm not finishing that 9 out of 10 times. People justify the cost and try to finish everything.

When I'm done, I'm done. Entree could be $70. I don't care, I'm not going to stuff myself. If the food was good I got my value, I don't need below average food with quantity.

Cruise ship dinners are perfect portion wise. I wish American restaurants were more like that. Obviously they're trying to save money, but the portions are perfect. Not bulimic but have puked at least twice after eating huge portions of average food.
277   mell   2025 Jul 30, 2:18pm  

RC2006 says

When i was a kid there was a ton of surgar in everything, we were drinking kool-aid and sodas all the time along with all the other goodies. But we were all extreamly active. I think that childhood activity conditions our metabolism at least into the late 20s. Kids now are not even 1/10th as active especially in the cities. I'm sure some of it is just lower quality food but the activity difference has to be more of an issue.

100% agreed. I had 2 soda cans (and plenty of food to replenish) a day in the summer plus Popsicles galore, but played soccer and tennis, training, leisure and games easily amounting to 3-4 hours of running per day. Went everywhere by bike or foot as well. Matchstick body until adulthood. Move move move

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