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Eric Holder says

Only Poland did build one.

Lithuania in Butinge build another

Minus a few Russian armored vehicles

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/zloy_odessit/status/1496809577546981382?source=patrick.net#m

minus Russian Ka-52

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/24-february-russian-ka52-helicopter-shot-near-hostomel?source=patrick.net

I don't want to sound way too pessimistic, but if Ukrainians beat Russian ass and Putin is afraid for his own life, we are in danger of thermonuclear war. He has thrown 80% of Russian army against Ukraine, and if something goes wrong, he will behave like a cornered rat. I don't think Russian army is motivated to fight in Ukraine (against "brotherly" Slavic nation), there are already reports of desertions (but we need to verify if these are real or Ukrainian propaganda). There are also plenty of ethnic Ukrainians in Russian army.

Might be.

Patrick says

Might be.

Putin is Bidet's puppet?

Putin is done. He is a dinosaur from another age. Time for all aged boomer world leaders to pack up their archaic world views and trot off into the sunset.

Tenpoundbass says

Must be one of them there Nazi's that Putin was referring to.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Tenpoundbass says

Must be one of them there Nazi's that Putin was referring to.

THE HEAD NAZI. LITERALLY HITLER'S GRANDSON!

Supposedly, Hostomel airport was taken by Russian paratroopers, but now they have been killed and captured after a many hour battle. https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14/status/1496920430703173634?source=patrick.net#m

An optimistic piece of information from our favorite Al-Nusra channel says that Ukrainians burned about 200 pieces of Russian armor near Kharkov. They might be somewhat blinded in their hatred for Russians though.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14/status/1496920201417396225?source=patrick.net#m

They also say that just before yesterday's attack, two Turkish military transports landed in Ukraine.

Bd6r says

Supposedly, Hostomel airport was taken by Russian paratroopers, but now they have been killed and captured after a many hour battle. https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14/status/1496920430703173634?source=patrick.net#m

This location, I believe: https://t.me/spravdi/534?source=patrick.net

https://t.me/Absolute1776/6901?source=patrick.net

Long memories and short fuses:

Putin Begins Slavic Revenge Against Nazis With “Constructive Destruction” Doctrine

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=193861&source=patrick.net
"Leading NATO countries pursue their own goal by fully supporting Ukraine's extreme Nazis and neo-Nazis, who, in turn, will never forgive the people of Crimea and Sevastopol for their free choice to reunify with Russia.

They will, of course, go to Crimea, like to Donbass, the way they do it, to kill, like executioners from the bands of Ukrainian Nazi supporters of Hitler were killing innocent people during World War II

Now, they also want to possess nuclear weapons. We will not let them do that."

That Mitt! What a gamester!

I don't think this is a real invasion. It is just exploding a lot of weapons inventories so that the greenhouse gases can't threaten other parts of the world. Putin is saving the environment.

Here’s a different take on the situation:
1)The Nordstream 1 pipeline provides Europe with 40% of its energy needs currently. This has resulted in wealth and prosperity for Russia and reasonably priced gas for EU.
2)Russians have been building Nordstream 2 pipeline. It just finished a few months ago and has been in the testing/inspection phase before launching. It would bring the EU to 80% energy provided by Russia.
3)The Russians have invested enormous capital into the second pipeline which goes under the Baltic Sea.
4)Biden approved the second pipeline with a caveat that if the Russians invaded Ukraine even a little, approval would be cancelled. Germany signed this treaty.
5) Putin declared two new independent states which haven’t been governed by Ukraine in eight years, and in response, Biden invoked the treaty to cancel the Nordstream 2.
6) This development is catastrophic for Russian interests, and can’t be tolerated. They felt they had nothing to lose and might as well invade for real, and use whatever gains were made for pressuring the EU into more favorable terms including opening that Nordstream 2 pipeline.

So here we are. As usual, the conflict is over energy and oil. And also influence over the EU. Clearly the USA wants to paint Russia as an antagonist and future foil for military adventurism, refusing all previous overtures of friendship from the Russians. And as such, the USA can’t afford to have the EU shackled by energy obligations in the 80% range to a world power we wish to combat. The EU wouldn’t help us with our next little conflict to “mitigate Russian influence” or whatever, because Russia would have them over a barrel with respect to energy.

So it’s all about oil and money and power games. As usual.

Hitler reacts to Russia invading Ukraine - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRYlA5-ARTY&source=patrick.net

This has shit to do with US, with the problems in the US, with anything that affects anyone on patnet. The only thing I care about, is US stays the fuck out.

Bd6r says

Result for us will be a lot of inflation, oil above only 100 if we are lucky, expansion of State powers in an orgasmic union of neocons and lefties, stock market crash, and drop in life quality. You did it, Joe!

There's already historic inflation, has been since 2008. But sure, let's blame anyone but central banks.

We have more oil than almost every other country, again, doesn't have shit to do with our oil prices.

Expansion of powers UNLIKE the last two years?

If this is what causes the market crash, how the fuck did I call it two years ago? Again, has shit to do with that.

My quality of life has mostly improved, despite everything my own government does to try and fuck me. You think that's gonna change because of some countries 10,000 mile away?

NuttBoxer says

There's already historic inflation, has been since 2008. But sure, let's blame anyone but central banks.

We have more oil than almost every other country, again, doesn't have shit to do with our oil prices.

Expansion of powers UNLIKE the last two years?

If this is what causes the market crash, how the fuck did I call it two years ago? Again, has shit to do with that.

My quality of life has mostly improved, despite everything my own government does to try and fuck me. You think that's gonna change because of some countries 10,000 mile away?

I am not arguing that it is crappy now, but do you really think that Bidet will now allow expanding of oil production? And what will higher oil prices do to inflation?
Also, I am not arguing that civil liberties already are nearly removed, but now "they" have excuse to remove the rest. Hopefully I am wrong, but we may see "expansion of powers unlike we have seen before".
This mess is convenient for State power advocates (up to a point).

Shaman says

So here we are. As usual, the conflict is over energy and oil. And also influence over the EU. Clearly the USA wants to paint Russia as an antagonist and future foil for military adventurism, refusing all previous overtures of friendship from the Russians. And as such, the USA can’t afford to have the EU shackled by energy obligations in the 80% range to a world power we wish to combat. The EU wouldn’t help us with our next little conflict to “mitigate Russian influence” or whatever, because Russia would have them over a barrel with respect to energy.

My take:

Germany is fundamentally unwilling to develop nuclear power, and they are comfortable with Russian Gas imports. They made that decision a decade or so ago, and they're happy with it.

Germany runs the EU. What Germany wants, it gets.

Poland, Hungary, Romania probably don't like it, but the EU isn't a democracy, it's really run by the Council, which is controlled by a Franco-German center. Remember, the EU Parliament can't make laws or repeal laws, it only votes on bills written by the EU Council up or down. And the Council just keeps reintroducing bills the Parliament votes down until the Council gets a Parliament that votes yes.

So this will all blow over, but it's another slam to the Prestige of the US and the West in general. The smart move would have been to renegotiate some of the 1991-1994 crap with Russia and get some concessions from Russia in return,

Rather than being stubborn about it - but simultaneously be UNWILLING to really DO something about it. In other words, big talk small hat.

Nobody is going to risk New York or Paris for Donetsk or frankly, Riga. Putin knows it and called the bluff.

According to this glorious jorno Russia still hasn't invaded anything: https://twitter.com/i/status/1496821150776807424?source=patrick.net

If this were a real invasion, Putin would be bombing the shit out of them nonstop, he would have 100,000's of troops on the ground.

That's my personal take on it. But then again, if Putin is invading, and just doing it as a slow roll, and is lying out of his ass. I'm not sure what my action item is about that.
As I'm still trying to figure out what to do about the lies our Government has fed us the world going all the way back to the day G.W. Bush took office.

So fucking What? Ukraine should have thrown our CIA and State Department out of Ukraine when they were used as pawns by Biden, and for damn sure when they were used again to take out Trump. Let Ukraine be Ukraine.

Putin offers Ukraine peace if they surrender Hunter's crack stash:
https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/10890?source=patrick.net

KD weighs in: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=245252&source=patrick.net

Bd6r says

Also, I am not arguing that civil liberties already are nearly removed, but now "they" have excuse to remove the rest.

The government can't do anything without consent of the public. Please realize that.

If, for example, they declare a war, and every soldier refused to deploy, there would be no war. I advocate for revolt in many things. What if nobody in your local municipality would accept wearing a mask? You just saw what non compliance does in Canada.

BTW: do you know why Turduh ended the emergency order? Their equivalent of the senate was going to end it regardless - he did it to save face. He's still a despot but doesn't have enough power to be an outward one. Changing minds is a powerful tool. Most people are easily convinced that "the majority thinks this" - DO THEY? Clinton had a 99% chance of winning in 2016 - did that work? Those polls were FALSE - not erroneous - they were lies.

Dholliday126 says

This is the best thing I’ve seen about this war!

Dholliday126 says

They are still ways away from the border.

Youtube has shut down all the livecams on Ukaine:

https://webcam.scs.com.ua/en/europe/ukraine/kiev/?source=patrick.net

This leads me to suspect "our side" isn't winning. We'll know in a few days, week at the most.

Here's one still up:

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ukraine/kyiv-city-council/kyiv/panorama.html

Looks like business as normal. First causality in war is the truth...