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We are not going to restore Russia to the border of the Empire of 1913. Moscow supports the sovereignty of the former republics of the Union, but Ukraine is an exception "because of external control" - V.V. Putin at a meeting with Aliyev
If Ukraine survives another few days, Russians are done.
Why do I think that - Chinese are starting to hedge - their foreign ministry had press release today about territorial integrity of countries incl Ukraine, and started sanctioning Russian banks. Second, Turkey shipped craploads of arms to Ukraine via Poland.
Okay, I'll bite on this sidebar for a second:
Yep, South Syrians who never had a state of their own, nor even a province under the Byzantines or Ottomans
gabbar saysWe are not going to restore Russia to the border of the Empire of 1913. Moscow supports the sovereignty of the former republics of the Union, but Ukraine is an exception "because of external control" - V.V. Putin at a meeting with Aliyev
Putler lies constantly, no reason to believe him on this
He was also not invading ukraine a week ago, was not invading crimea etc
Although the media is pumping the narrative of Russia invading the Ukraine, it seems to me that the fight is between the Ukrainian Russian Separists (supported by Russia) and the Ukrainian nationals (supported by NATO). Its appears to be a PROXY "dust-up" between Russia and Nato that just happens to be on Ukraine soil.
Although the media is pumping the narrative of Russia invading the Ukraine, it seems to me that the fight is between the Ukrainian Russian Separists (supported by Russia) and the Ukrainian nationals (supported by NATO). Its appears to be a PROXY "dust-up" between Russia and Nato that just happens to be on Ukraine soil.
There are plenty of dead Dagestanis and Chechens who are not inhabitants of Ukraine
Why were they there?
So the civil war is quite imaginary but invasion is real.
what end? What does russia gain from invading?
komputodo sayswhat end? What does russia gain from invading?
I think nothing, but then again I am not Putler. He has probably botoxed out his brains.
However, presence of Russian troops in Ukraine does seem to verify invasion.
komputodo saysUhh.yes.seriously...please educate me
But are YOU serious?
What I mean is that this can't be taught on a PatNet post. You are going to have to invest time and effort. Worth it, tho.
This guy totally predicted this, so I would recommend reading his book
No.
That is also not why Russia invaded. Germany would never have agreed to let Ukraine join NATO anyway.
That you believe otherwise is just indicative that you don't know what is going on. Sorry to be an asshole, but it is true.
Would NATO troops in the Ukraine also verify invasion by Nato?
Russia wouldn't have had an excuse to go to war, if that was just cover to begin the war.
The idiots in West dont understand East European psychology. They have village patriotism. If Russians attack Donbas, Zhytomyr does not give a shit. Now they attacked whole Ukraine and we will have a Ukrainian nation finally - before it was Soviet invention and ephemeral.
First, Russians are met with gunfire from every damned house.
Rich russians think that Putin has gone mad.
What does he have to lose - if he loses war in Ukraine or even if there is an unfavorable stalemate, his associates will kill him as is common in those parts of the world. This scares me a lot and you should be afraid as well. We may have the end of civilization as we know it.
Putin has promoted explicitly conservative policies in social, cultural, and political matters, both at home and abroad. Putin has attacked globalism and neo-liberalism and is identified by scholars with Russian conservatism.[328] Putin has promoted new think tanks that bring together like-minded intellectuals and writers. For example, the Izborsky Club, founded in 2012 by the conservative right-wing journalist Alexander Prokhanov, stresses (i) Russian nationalism, (ii) the restoration of Russia's historical greatness, and (iii) systematic opposition to liberal ideas and policies.[329] Vladislav Surkov, a senior government official, has been one of the key economics consultants during Putin's presidency.[330]
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Yes
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My take: Yes
see https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14?source=patrick.net
Evacuation of civilians from Doneck, Gleiwitz-style explosions in Doneck, and a lot of shelling along border.
Less probable is that they just want to increase tensions to get something out of the West (higher oil/gas prices, promises about non-expansion of NATO, etc).
If they do invade, ZH and a lot of skeptics owe Bidet & Co an apology of sorts. Everything goes to crap if invasion happens, as in economy of the world, residual civil liberties, etc, and one can blame Russians for inflation, loss of life quality, etc, instead of real culprit Bidet.
If I'd be conspiratorial, I'd say that Bidet agents in Russia will push for Russian invasion, but on other hand current CIA and military here can only shout pronouns at enemies as seen from Afghanistan debacle.