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is this war still on? been quiet on the news lately

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

is this war still on? been quiet on the news lately

That's just a sign that the Ukeys are not winning.

Russia just has to sit tight. The Ukes need to win.

Time is not on the Ukeys side but is for the Russians.

Gossip says an informal agreement reached behind the scenes that Russia will occupy the entire Black Sea extent of Ukraine, but will leave Odessa demilitarized of use to Ukraine, or what's left of it, as an open port. Poland will occupy parts of Western Ukraine under agreement. So, Russia secures the Black Sea, and Poland gets some annexation.

Whether this exists or not is anybody's guess, but skirmishes continue.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/desperation-creeps-in/

Money trouble tends to blot out whatever else is happening to you, so the nation may not even notice that the Ukraine war is a lost cause. Not that we actually lost it, the Ukrainians did, poor buggers. What role did it play in American life besides money laundromat for the Biden family and a convenient stash for any number of bio-weapons labs? Are you still pretending that the war we provoked there was a heroic stand for “democracy?” Will the place matter to us when Russia has to take it on as a charity? The only thing a lot of newly-broke Americans will notice is the more than $100-billion we pounded down that rat-hole, and the thought will not make them feel warm and fuzzy.

Celebrations of liberation continue, now in Novorossiysk:





Interestingly, no warships were attacked in Novorossiysk prior to 02/24/2022.... Hmmm, I wonder what happened...

This is the perfect shit storm, and not by design. Russia thought Ukraine would roll and they could just walk in with their puppet nomination, but Ukraine surprised them by actually being prepared for war. And since Russia refuses to engage their full army, and being that's it Russia, and they're corrupt as fuck(bribes required for ammunition, etc), this just keeps dragging out. Winners are obviously the Biden's, MIC in the US and Europe, US gas after we knocked out Russia's pipeline and raised the prices on Europe, and Russia's corrupt oligarchy. Losers are the Ukrainian and Russian people, and everyone dumb enough to fall for the Ukraine propaganda, or maybe more accurately the anti-Russian people propaganda. And of course European citizens being reamed on their gas bills.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

is this war still on? been quiet on the news lately

This is what our media does when a war they promoted, is not going the way they wanted.

I try to stay informed about what was going on, but in 2013, I remember asking people "Are we still at war in Afghanistan" and NOBODY knew. It was hard for ME to find out. I had to find out from Al Jazeera. I seriously couldn't get ANY information in the last year about that war, from US "news" sites. There was nothing.

They'll do the same with Ukraine. Ukraine is losing, the US media will stop reporting on it, the next time we hear anything about it, is when Russia wins. They won't report on the number of deaths. or the settlement, or the peace agreement.

Ceffer says

Gossip says an informal agreement reached behind the scenes that Russia will occupy the entire Black Sea extent of Ukraine, but will leave Odessa demilitarized of use to Ukraine, or what's left of it, as an open port. Poland will occupy parts of Western Ukraine under agreement. So, Russia secures the Black Sea, and Poland gets some annexation.

Whether this exists or not is anybody's guess, but skirmishes continue.

No. This war will go on for many years. This shit that it will "end soon" is bullshit.

Russia will win, but this is a proxy war. The poor Ukrainians are going to have their entire male population wiped out.

NuttBoxer says

Winners are obviously the Biden's, MIC in the US and Europe,

No. They're making bank of course, but Europe is fucked. They just allowed the United States to cut off a major energy supplier.

The US is not at war with Russia as much as they are at war with Europe. Europe is now dependent on US energy. Europe is controlled by traitors, that are loyal to the United States, not their people. Europe would do well by treating Russia the way the US treats China. This would be in Europe's interest, but traitors run Europe. They are being over-run by immigrants. Europeans cannot believe this is happening although it is OBVIOUSLY happening.

richwicks says

Europe would do well by treating Russia the way the US treats China.

By having Russia bribe all their leaders?

All of our sports fans demand one hour results and itch for the temporary satisfaction of a team 'win'. I guess the trivialization of long range planning in the American mind is complete. They don't even recognize a war of attrition any more.

richwicks says

NuttBoxer says

Winners are obviously the Biden's, MIC in the US and Europe,

No. They're making bank of course, but Europe is fucked.

Let's just say the MIC then. As regardless of where the companies are located, I've never known war profiteers to give a shit about nationalism.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/shokin-lives-sunday-august-6-2023

This is clearly fake. Russian orcs can not build ships or buildings. They fight with shovels alone.

RWSGFY says

Celebrations of liberation continue, now in Novorossiysk:





Interestingly, no warships were attacked in Novorossiysk prior to 02/24/2022.... Hmmm, I wonder what happened...

tomtomtom says

Russian orcs can not build ships or buildings.

The ship in question wasn't made in Russia.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

Europe would do well by treating Russia the way the US treats China.

By having Russia bribe all their leaders?

Oh, our leaders aren't bribed. They are engaging in open corruption with the approval and knowledge of the intelligence agencies and the military.

Europe should use Russia for manufacturing and energy. This would benefit both Europe and Russia.

The problem is the European leaders are controlled by our intelligence agencies. The US occupies Europe still from WWII.

The US is the opposite of everything it claims to be. It's anti-democratic, it's anti-Republic, it's against sovereignty, it's against everything.

That's gotta be worth another couple of billion from the Biden administration. What pluck.

https://t.me/greatreject/54073

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-reveals-what-the-media-will

RFK Jr. Reveals What The Media Will Never Tell You About Ukraine: “The US Wanted This War”

• According to Kennedy, President Zelensky had intentions of signing the Minsk Accords, a peace agreement with Russia over a year ago.

• The agreement left Ukraine intact but provided protections for ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

• Putin started withdrawing his troops. However, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was sent to Ukraine to “kill the agreement.”

• The US marketed Ukraine as a humanitarian crisis. Yet, when pressed, US leaders said the objectives were regime change in Russia and the exhaustion of the Russian army.

“The story that we’re told that there was an unprovoked invasion by Putin is not the accurate story,” declared Kennedy. “There’s another story, and that is that the US wanted this war.”

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-vows-to-sacrifice-as-many-ukrainian-lives-as-it-takes-to-defeat-russia

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In a bold statement of strength and resolve, President Joe Biden vowed to keep up the war effort against Russia as long as any Ukrainian man, woman, or child was left drawing breath to fight.

"As President of America, I am willing to sacrifice as many Ukrainian lives as it takes," said Biden. "We will keep using Ukraine to fight a proxy war until an entire generation is dead and all of my money is laundered. You have my word!"

As the war rages on, Biden reiterated his support for Ukrainians fighting hard while he sits back and watches. "The United States is proud to hide behind the Ukrainian people as a nation full of human shields," he said. "Even if it leads to Putin using nuclear weapons on the people of Ukraine, we are willing to take that risk. End of speech. Walk away from podium."

The imbecility and stupidity here are breathtaking.

Patrick says

"In a bold statement of strength and resolve, President Joe Biden vowed to keep up the war effort against Russia as long as any Ukrainian man, woman, or child was left drawing breath to fight."

[Emphasis mine]
Biden is following the same "strategery" followed by Winston Churchill at Gallipoli where he kept fighting the Turks until he run out of English, Australian and New Zealand troops. These idiots are still fighting the same war and the same tactics in the Ukraine.

And in Ukraine, the lives of the Ukranian people don't matter because as Alfred, Lord Tennyson‘ put it - in The Charge of the Light Brigade...

...'though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

And to make matters worse, they are fighting the Russians who are very much aware of the fact!

The_Deplorable says

Biden is following the same "strategery" followed by Winston Churchill at Gallipoli where he kept fighting the Turks until he run out of English, Australian and New Zealand troops. These idiots are still fighting the same war and the same tactics in the Ukraine.

Not to embarrass you, but Patrick's quote is from the Babylon Bee which is a satire site.

But it is what the west is doing. I don't think there is ANY hope of Ukraine winning this war, and when it's over, it will be East and West Ukraine, and West Ukraine will need to be rebuilt, and there will be a bunch of vulture corporations to swing in to do it, at the expense of taking over all their natural resources of course.

The longer this war goes on, the worse it will be for the survivors. Ukrainians are basically fighting at this point to make their country weaker and more vulnerable to foreign vultures.

https://babylonbee.com/news/disaster-relief-plane-flies-over-hawaii-on-way-to-ukraine

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-episode-16-with-rfk

RFK Jr gives a clear explanation of the war in Ukraine starting just after 12 minutes in.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1691550463076847635

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/livin-in-the-new-world-thursday-august

We still have a long way to go, but by their inherently unstable design, massive corrupt conspiracies must fail. They can only grow by adding people in two incompetent categories: (1) useful idiots — who are idiots after all, and (2) corrupt people, who are always ultimately ungovernable.

The Proxy War is a great metaphor for where we are in this global conflict.

This will trigger a few folks, but imagine the Russians represent the right-thinking masses. NATO represents the Leftist élite machine. NATO is throwing everything in its arsenal at the Russian underdog, but the Russians tenaciously hang on to their gains and, inch by bloody inch, between wins and losses, are slowly, inexorably, winning the war. Similarly, the Left is running everything in its human-skin-bound playbook at the World, but the World is hanging on and slowly, painfully, winning.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/20/david_sacks_sadly_ukraine_will_be_complete_destroyed_before_the_west_admits_we_need_a_diplomatic_solution.html

Patrick says

Come on Patrick, we're both nerds.

The liberals were the assholes always, and the people that suck up to them. Liberals are the sociopaths, and the toadies currying favor.

Zeihan on F-16 and long-range weapons: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cem-58_NKjA&feature=youtu.be

Patrick says

Yep, these American families could use some surplus M777 howitzers right now....

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/abyssal-tuesday-august-22-2023-c

Although the Russians were not prepared in February 2022 for this kind of war, they are now. And they’re continuing to prepare, which includes continuous mobilization. They’re up to 750,00 troops in and around Ukraine. That number is going to rise in the next year to 1.2 million.

Our intransigence, our demonstrated hatred and hostility toward Moscow and for Russia, has convinced the Russian people — as well as the leadership in Moscow — that they are going to have to fight us, and anyone allied with us.

So they’re preparing for that eventuality. That’s why it’s so important we wake up and understand that what we’ve done has backfired. Whatever we’ve set out to achieve has failed. ...

Listening to Macgregor’s confident, well-reasoned analysis, which smacked of commonsense expertise, it occurred to me that our strategy in Ukraine was perfect — perfect for the Russians, that is. If Biden had wanted to give Moscow a TED Talk on exactly how to beat NATO, he could never have dreamed up a better — worse — way. Biden has presented the Russians with a limited, slowly escalating engagement, against a corrupt, weak opponent, where NATO’s best weapons systems were gradually introduced, giving the Russians time to adjust, learn, and adapt, while continuously adding vast numbers soldiers — who are all becoming skilled battlefield veterans.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian soldiers are not becoming veterans, they are dying in droves. Even if we have a few thousand NATO troops stealthily involved, that’s nothing compared to the incalculable number of Russian troops gaining practical experience in fighting a modern, high-tech kinetic war. It’s a completely different kind of war than anything in human history. As Macgregor noted, in this new kind of war, all units are visible on the battlefield all the time. If something moves, it gets shot at and destroyed.

To fight the war this way was woke incompetence beyond imagination, sheer madness, badly misplaced hubris, possibly the worst and most reckless military strategy ever conceived in the Joint Chiefs’ transsexual, pride-flagged conference rooms — ever.

As I said, it was a jam-packed, tightly-edited, hour-long interview. There’s a lot there. Toward the end, Tucker showed Colonel Macgregor a clip of an American psyoperator who went to work for Ukraine, a man who dresses like a woman, in Ukrainian uniform, who explained how our war generals (and certain folks in the comments) see things:



As the two men watched, former Florida resident ‘Sarah’ Cirillo, now a Ukraine army spokesman, explained in the clip (in part):

CIRILLO: “If you look at Putin’s mouth, you’ll notice blood drips from it. He’s a vampire, carrying out genocide against both Ukraine and Russians alike. Vlad Putin bathes in the blood of innocent children and enjoys it. And this is why the dictator of the Russian Federation must be deposed.”
That over-the-top nonsense came from an official Ukrainian military announcement.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509

Lol, this Colonel Douglas Macgregor guy is good. "Instead of consent of the governed, we have contempt for the governed." and "If the donor class were cannibals, the government would feed Americans to them."

He also makes the valid point that a lot of this war seems driven by the hatred of people like Nuland and Blinken and the entire donor class for Russia because their Jewish ancestors were oppressed by Russia. Sure, their ancestors (and some of my own) were oppressed by tsarist Russia, but it's wrong to make their ethnic hatred for Russians and Ukrainians into US policy.