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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   434,692 views  4,251 comments

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4046   Patrick   2024 Jul 13, 10:01am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/the-cover-your-ass-olympics


... the Democratic Party has turned obviously insane, adopting a playbook that could have been written by Franz Kafka.

Being likewise insane, the intel blob and the neocons at State harbored an unappeasable hatred toward Russia that, since the Soviet collapse, allowed no accommodation and gelled into a naked avarice for seizing the resources of Russia with a long-term plan to subvert the Russian state, break it up the way they broke up Serbia in the 1990s, and direct a corporate looting operation of Russia’s oil and mineral riches. Ukraine was the doorway they had to go through to get that done.

And so, the blob and State neocons overthrew democratically-elected Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, and installed Poroshenko followed by Zelensky. Veep “Joe Biden” was given the Ukraine “portfolio,” making him a sort of viceroy, and he took full advantage, plopping his son Hunter on the board of Burisma, the huge Ukrainian natgas company that American oil and gas companies drooled over. Hunter managed to milk the Ukrainian government for tribute to the Biden Family bank accounts far above the roughly million-dollar-a-year salary he grifted from his no-show job on the Burisma board. (Hunter also apparently dabbled in a set of bioweapons labs set up in Ukraine by the CIA.) Thus, along with the sheer insanity of the CIA and State Department, the Biden family had a deep and criminal involvement in Ukraine that had to be concealed.

That degenerate relationship has been revealed since the discovery of the laptop that Hunter stupidly left in a Wilmington computer repair shop, and all the disclosures that have followed — including the sedulous recovery of bank records for the many shell companies the Bidens used to conceal their moneygrubbing in Ukraine and other foreign lands. When Mr. Trump first scented it in the fall of 2019, they impeached him for it. But now that he threatens to return to the White House, the blobists and the Bidens are running out of options to evade an accounting for all this mischief. That desperation is what drives disintegrating “Joe Biden” to remain president and to continue pressing the malevolent and foolish proxy war against hobgoblin Russia and its vilified president, Mr. Putin. So, now you know.
4047   stereotomy   2024 Jul 13, 11:43am  

I have no doubt that the neocon descendants of Jews fleeing the pogroms of the Russian Empire (Blinken, Nuland, et.al.), that have dictated US foreign policy since Shrub, thirst for the complete immolation and destruction of Russia. It's blood revenge, completely irrational, born of unquenchable hate.

They are driving us to WWIII. Even a dozen megaton nukes would ruin the world for the next 200 years. There should be hangings for these insane fuckers as well.
4048   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jul 19, 9:52am  

A message being sent out to the others: Zekensky gets his cut, or else.


4052   Patrick   2024 Jul 21, 6:33am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/breaking-through-sunday-july-21-2024





There’s no new information today, but note that none of Biden’s neocons ever mention “peace,” the “cost of so many lives,” the “devastated innocent families,” “ending the violence,” or paving a “path forward to prosperity.”

Only President Trump talks about those things.
4054   Patrick   2024 Jul 23, 1:40pm  

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1815464290453004585


@BowesChay
Dear US Tax payers

Just to let you know, that while you struggle to pay your rent, educate your kids and save something for a "rainy day"

The Pentagon "accidentally" paid Dictator Zelensky an Extra $6.2 billion of your money

"An accounting error"
4055   RayAmerica   2024 Jul 23, 7:18pm  

Patrick says

There’s no new information today, but note that none of Biden’s neocons ever mention “peace,” the “cost of so many lives,” the “devastated innocent families,” “ending the violence,” or paving a “path forward to prosperity.”

Only President Trump talks about those things.

It's one of the primary reasons why they want to take him out. With $Hundreds of Billions floating around in off shore accounts, there is just too much to lose to have some patriot that is running for President to get in their way.
4056   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 23, 9:02pm  

Patrick says


https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1815464290453004585


BowesChay
Dear US Tax payers

Just to let you know, that while you struggle to pay your rent, educate your kids and save something for a "rainy day"

The Pentagon "accidentally" paid Dictator Zelensky an Extra $6.2 billion of your money

"An accounting error"




Pentagon didn't pay anything to any zelensky: at best it could transfer some obsolete weaponry and ammo which some 30 years ago had this kind of accounting value and was purchased for this exact purpose - repelling aggressive Soviets. Which means we really saved money because we didn't have to pay for disposal of all that crap, which is not a trivial expense.

And what all this libby talk about "struggling families"? It's not government's business if some lazy bums are "struggling" or not. Pull your shit together, learn some in-demand trade (plumbing, welding, Java, AI - it's up to you) and put that food on your family's table! No support for wellfare queens from true conservatives!
4057   Patrick   2024 Jul 24, 9:49am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/delegation-wednesday-july-24-2024


Yesterday, just days after his phone call with post-nomination Trump, Zelensky’s tone seems to have … changed. At a minor press event somewhere, the martial law administrator said, and I am not making this up either, “We have to end the war as soon as possible ... of course, to not lose people's lives.”

My goodness! The empathetic former president is finally connecting with the plight of his citizens. Stop the loss of life!

Note: No media covered this press conference, and I couldn’t find any details. But I thought it was interesting enough to include anyway, since I found confirmation of Ukraine’s sudden and unexpected diplomatic tone in a Tass article headlined, “Top Ukrainian diplomat says Kiev ready for talks with Russia — Chinese MFA.”

It only took one phone call. And Trump’s not even President yet.
4058   Patrick   2024 Jul 25, 2:41pm  

https://words.mattiasdesmet.org/p/the-trump-assassination-attempt-the


So, I repeat my point: with Trump, the provocation of Russia stops, and the war in Ukraine ends. Presidents who threaten to end wars are sometimes shot at by lone gunmen. And those lone gunmen are, in turn, shot dead. And the archives about that remarkable act of lone gunmen sometimes remain sealed for a remarkably long time, much longer than they usually do.
4060   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 9, 5:55am  




https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/04/world/europe/ukraine-war-dating.html

Don't worry ladies. Being raped on the street 4 times a day by Rissian occupation soldiers* will make up for it.

* See Berlin 1945 for historical data
4061   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 9, 8:05am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Don't worry ladies. Being raped on the street 4 times a day by Rissian occupation soldiers* will make up for it.

* See Berlin 1945 for historical data


No need to go as far as 1945: see Bucha, Izyum, Mariupol, Kherson and hundreds small towns and villages.

Red Army is and has always been a horde of war criminals.
4062   socal2   2024 Aug 9, 8:28am  

RWSGFY says

Red Army is and has always been a horde of war criminals.


But they are saving humanity from the satanic global homos!

Curious to see if Ukraine will be able to hold onto the territory they just conquered in Russia this week. Assume the goal is to divert Russian troops from other active lines and perhaps a future bargaining chip if they end up negotiating a settlement with land swaps.
4063   WookieMan   2024 Aug 9, 9:10am  

socal2 says

Curious to see if Ukraine will be able to hold onto the territory they just conquered in Russia this week. Assume the goal is to divert Russian troops from other active lines and perhaps a future bargaining chip if they end up negotiating a settlement with land swaps.

Unfortunately no. Russia will keep chugging along. Putin doesn't care. His time on life is running out. Dying people make stupid decisions because they have nothing to lose and Russia has more men to throw at this for a decade. And I'm not saying he's dying, but 71 is no spring chicken especially for men.

Basically he personally has nothing to lose. He's entrenched in power. Any family he has is and will be wealthy for at least a generation or two. Until the oligarchs kids go to war, which won't happen, this can go on for decades. There may be a cease fire, but round two will come shortly after. It would take an entire collapse of the nation and that doesn't seem apparent.

Either way it's a stupid war. And even if Russia wins, they decimated everything they wanted to gain and will have to rebuild it. So I really don't see either side "winning" at all. It's already lost for both sides.
4064   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 9, 9:25am  

socal2 says

Curious to see if Ukraine will be able to hold onto the territory they just conquered in Russia this week.


Right. Stupid Ukey Nazis lured into a trap to be slaughtered is 'territory they just conquered in Russia' now.
4066   socal2   2024 Aug 9, 3:06pm  

Over 400 Russians killed in Himars attack near Kursk? Presumably a convoy sent to reinforce this unprotected area that Ukraine gobbled up?

https://radaronline.com/p/russian-troops-killed-state-of-emergency-ukraine-attack/

Been shocking how locked Russia and Ukraine have been for 2+ years in trench battle with very little movement on the battle lines. This is the first breakout "thunder run" type movement we have seen since Russia's initial invasion.

Politically it has to be embarrassing to Putin. Ukraine has gained more enemy land in a couple days than Russia has done in the past year. We will soon see if it has strategic value as well.
4067   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 9, 3:37pm  

Historically Kursk region had always been part of Ukraine. USSR should give land for peace.
4068   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 9, 3:41pm  

Lipetsk aibase before



and after denazification


4069   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 9, 8:08pm  

The most important thing now is to immediately stop the bloodshed. Russia must hand over the Kursk, Belgorod, Bryansk, Oryol, Kaluga and Voronezh regions to Ukraine. It does not matter who these territories belong to. The main thing is that peaceful people stop dying!
4070   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 9, 11:27pm  

Checkmate!

Now that Russian territory has been officially invaded by the stupid Ukeys, Putin can legally deploy hundreds of thousands of reservists into the war that he previously could not before. Yes, Russia has laws. No, Putin is not a dictator. Powerful, yes. Corrupt, yes.

So is our POTUS.


4071   Booger   2024 Aug 10, 3:59am  

Putin reacts to Ukraine invading Russia
https://youtu.be/9ufrs3wZ6dg?si=F2CdH5lR6c9MWZj8
4073   socal2   2024 Aug 15, 4:52pm  

"Watching a German general analysing battle of Kursk on YouTube wasn't on my 2024 bingo card."

https://twitter.com/cecilie0019/status/1824079749779730643
4074   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 15, 5:01pm  

More than a week Nazis are freely making lampshades out of Soviet citizens in Kursk oblast and Pukin is pretending nothing is happening. If SCHMO is still going according to plan, does it mean that OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER planned for his subjects to be turned into lampshades by blood-thirsty Zalensky regime Joo Nazi goons? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!
4076   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Aug 15, 7:40pm  

you guys remind me of retarded republicans in 2002 who were chest pounding wanting more troops in Iraq. now you do same stupid stuff but with Ukraine. We need to just cut it off and leave it. Ukraine is not our responsibility and we shouldn’t pay taxes for military industrial complex neocons to war profiteering (the group that installed Biden puppet). friends look in the mirror and you will see previous fools. i don’t mean this in judgemental ways. i’ve been a fool plenty. but i see the government lie and see through bullshit sale this one time. don’t fall for it fellow patnetters. this is the new neocon war.
4077   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 16, 8:53am  

Ukraine’s invasion (of Kursk) was a major strategic blunder, which will accelerate its defeat. The key determinant of success in a war of attrition is the casualty-exchange ratio, not capturing territory, which Western commentators obsess over. The casualty-exchange ratio in the Kursk offensive decisively favors Russia for two reasons. First, it has caused relatively few Russian casualties because Ukraine’s army effectively overran undefended territory. Second, once alerted to the attack, Moscow quickly brought massive airpower to bear against the advancing Ukrainian troops, who were in the open and easy to strike. Unsurprisingly, the attacking forces lost many soldiers and a huge proportion of their equipment.

To make matters worse, Kyiv removed top-notch combat units from the front lines in eastern Ukraine — where they are desperately needed — and made them part of the Kursk strike force. This move is tilting the already lopsided casualty-exchange ratio on that critically important front further in Russia’s favor.


https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-kursk-offensive-a-foolish-move
4078   stereotomy   2024 Aug 16, 8:57am  

If Kursk blows, it irradiates most of Eurasia, and the rest falls into the Pacific Ocean -BFD.
4079   zzyzzx   2024 Aug 16, 9:29am  

stereotomy says


If Kursk blows, it irradiates most of Eurasia, and the rest falls into the Pacific Ocean -BFD.


The existing nuclear power plant that the Russians captured and presumably trashing (because that's what Russians do) hasn't blown up yet. And it won't because it's shut down. The same thing will happen at the Kursk nuclear power plant. It will get shut down if Ukranian troops get close enough, assuming that it hasn't been shut down already.
4080   Patrick   2024 Aug 17, 11:36am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/impactful-saturday-august-17-2024


In Proxy War news, yesterday the Washington Post ran a surprising story headlined, “Ukraine’s offensive derails secret efforts for partial cease-fire with Russia, officials say.” The sub-headline explained, “The warring countries were set to hold indirect talks in Qatar on an agreement to halt strikes on energy and power infrastructure, according to officials.”

Now they tell us. It was a ‘secret’ because media never reported it till now. Apparently, Ukraine and Russia were planning to meet, to discuss de-escalating their tit-for-tat energy strikes, which Russia is clearly winning, since the lights are still on in Moscow while most of Ukraine is sitting around in the dark.

As they say in Westeros, winter is coming. Astonishingly, WaPo admitted Ukraine is on the breaking point:

"We have one chance to get through this winter, and that's if
the Russians won't launch any new attacks on the grid," an
Ukrainian official who was briefed on the talks said.

The same official explained, “energy is definitely critical for us; we’re facing free fall if there’s no light and heat in the winter.”

Facing free fall. Not literally. He meant it’s lights out, comrades. Game over.

Why would Russia want to agree to stop its effective infrastructure attacks? WaPo didn’t say. Nevertheless, the parties had been optimistic about a potential deal. WaPo’s anonymous diplomat said, “Kyiv and Moscow had both signaled their readiness to accept the arrangement in the lead-up to the summit.”

But then Ukraine invaded Russia last week. Now Moscow says “nyet.”

The Ukrainians seem to have missiled themselves in the foot again. Their ‘daring invasion’ into a small rural district in western Russia isn’t likely to produce any benefit, and has scuttled the delicate ‘secret negotiations:’

Military analysts have expressed skepticism that Ukrainian
forces can maintain control of the Russian territory. Moscow
has also continued to make gains in eastern Ukraine's
Donetsk region and has not diverted troops from there to
defend the new Ukrainian assault.

If the Ukrainians had somehow managed to grab the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant ahead of these secret talks, they might have held a royal card to play. But they never even got close.
4081   RayAmerica   2024 Aug 17, 8:29pm  

Better late than never in abandoning this lost cause ...

The Beginning Of The End? Germany To Ban All New Ukraine Military Aid
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beginning-end-germany-ban-all-new-ukraine-military-aid
4082   Eric Holder   2024 Aug 22, 1:02pm  

Ukraine will have to develop an education plan for children in the Kursk region, - Deputy Minister of Education

"If the situation continues until the end of September, we will have to draw up an education plan for minors in those territories," Vinnitsky said.


Good man! Education is important (until the puplis are turned into lampshades and their hair is stuffed into mattresses while Pukin is watching and babbling about "provocation", that is). 👹
4083   Eric Holder   2024 Aug 22, 1:07pm  

RayAmerica says

Better late than never in abandoning this lost cause ...

The Beginning Of The End? Germany To Ban All New Ukraine Military Aid


Zero hedgehog has shat the bed. Again. All Ze Germanz did was they decided to switch from financing the aid from German taxpayer's funds to using Soviet frozen assets instead (not directly, but as collateral for a loan, but the eventual fate of it is pretty much set).
4084   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Aug 22, 4:42pm  

Most Russian casualties are not Russian.

This answers one of mysteries socal2 brings up.

https://english.elpais.com/international/2022-10-07/putins-conscription-drive-targets-russias-ethnic-minorities.html

Basically, Chechens, Tartars, Turkics, Buryats, etc. have been used as cannon fodder. Their families get a goat.

So you see @socal2 , I was correct in calling out your ~300,000 Russian casualties figure as bullshit. It's because most are not Russian. The body bags have been sent to Ulan Ude and Grozny more than to St. Petersburg or Moscow.

YOU WERE correct, however, in mentioning those numbers in terms of Russian Army losses, if somewhat inflated.

This has benefits other than the above. By killing off the young men of these groups, Moscow stamps off future rebellion in their home regions for about 15 - 20 years, too. And, these regions have been outbreeding the Russian ethnos for years now, but no more.

And they can have Russian veterans colonize these areas after the war, too. Lot of young unmarried/widowed Dagastani pussy to make Russian babies with, after all. Like what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs.

This Dagastani beauty doesn't know it yet, but she'll be pushing out the half-slavic children of Cpl. (ret) Anton Russiancocksy in the coming years:


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