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mell says

they can drag this out as long as putin has support in his country

They can drag it as long as they have enough relatively modern weaponry. For example, out of 2000 working tanks they fielded before the war 1000 had been upgraded with French night vision (thank you, Macron!). Can they replace these 1000 tanks with ones they have in storage? Suuure, but these won't have night vision and, most probably, not even active armor. (See couple of posts above: T-62s and even T-44s are now showing up on the battlefield). Same goes for aircraft and helos: they have many of these in storage, but the number of properly modernized ones (again, thanks, Macron!) are much less not to mention the number of experienced pilots. Russian AF famously flies much less training hours than their American counterparts.

Can they fight a modern war by conscripting 1 million enthusiastic Ivans and arming them with Mosin rifles? Sure they can try - they are very smart after all. Can they win it? I doubt it. I'd even go so far as to argue that they can't conscript 1 million Ivans.

4 tanks taken out by one Ukrainian missile team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyrFB4pvx0s&source=patrick.net

Ukraine now has more tanks on the battlefield than Russia?

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/04/25/ukraine-now-has-more-tanks-than-russia-and-things-look-worse-in-the-future-n555837?source=patrick.net

Donald J Trump:

“What’s happening is horrible. When you see rockets going into apartment buildings, and there are plenty of people in those buildings, you know, they think they’re, like the people moved out, they didn’t move, they wanted to stay because they think they’re safe in their apartments.”

socal2 says

Ukraine now has more tanks on the battlefield than Russia?

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/04/25/ukraine-now-has-more-tanks-than-russia-and-things-look-worse-in-the-future-n555837?source=patrick.net

By way of scale, Russia entered the war with about 120 Battalion Tactical Groups (BTG)) representing approximately 75% of the Russian Army’s combat power as well as the cutting edge of that power.

Sooo, if 75% of Russian combat power is now stuck in Ukraine and "NATO has always planned to attack and occupy Mother Russia", wouldn't now be the perfect time? What takes them so long?

Eric Holder says

Sooo, if 75% of Russian combat power is now stuck in Ukraine and "NATO has always planned to attack and occupy Mother Russia", wouldn't now be the perfect time? What takes them so long?

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/shocks-to-the-system/?source=patrick.net

It looks like America is about to be treated to some shocks. Will they break the mass formation psychosis that styles itself unironically as “progressive politics?”

The first shock will be the painful recognition that Ukraine is not prevailing against Russia’s Operation Z, despite the combined efforts of the US news media and the Intel Community to put over that narrative. True, it took Russia more than a few days to overcome Ukraine’s NATO-fortified defenses, but now most of that has been neutralized, and we’re into the final weeks heading towards resolution — which will be a Ukraine that is unable to make any more trouble in that corner of the world.

That’s right, hard as it is to accept, Operation Z came down on Ukraine because it misbehaved badly, egged-on by delusional war-gamers in Washington, who could only pretend to support Ukraine once the real action started. No amount of chanting Putin-Putin-Putin availed to stop the grinding Russian advance. State’s Antony Blinken and DoD’s General Austin were in Kiev over the weekend on a face-saving mission. My guess: they tried to persuade Mr. Zelenskyy to throw in the towel. He may be too desperate and crazy to listen, but it’s truly game-over. The Russians will treat him with kid gloves, perhaps give him leave to settle in Miami and enjoy the American dream with the fortune he has squirreled away. There will be changes in the map. Ukraine will sink back into peaceful obscurity while the US and Europe have to struggle with the impoverishing blowback from wrecking the global trade settlement system.

The Ruble is back to pre-sanction levels.

Patrick says

The Ruble is back to pre-sanction levels.

Except you can't buy USD anywhere in Russia. It's as fake as USD being "equal" to 0.60 Soviet Ruble in the 70s-80s. They are rapidly going back to their "glorious" past.

Mykhailo Podoliak, Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, believes that the rate of Russia’s "demilitarisation" in regions that share a border with Ukraine will continue growing in the coming weeks.
Source: Mykhailo Podoliak during the 24/7 national newscast
According to Podoliak: "The war is really intense… This intensity will undoubtedly be felt in the border-adjacent regions of the Russian Federation.
There will be a rapid rise of panic there, there will be conflicts, warehouses are going to explode – and this will only continue to intensify. In my opinion, the rate of demilitarisation of the Russian Federation will also rise significantly in the coming weeks, especially in the border-adjacent region.
And this will prompt other Russians to ask: "What are we doing in Ukraine? Why have we killed so many people there in the last two months, and what price are we prepared to pay for this?" And these warehouses, petroleum, oil, and lubricants, these fuel depots – these will all be the effects, these will all be debt payments that Russia will begin making for the war."
Earlier: Earlier Podoliak said explosions in Belgorod, Voronezh, and Kursk Regions of the Russian Federation were "an entirely natural process" and a "divine intervention into the affairs of sinners".

Background:
On 27 April Vyacheslav Gladkov, Governor of Belgorod Region of the Russian Federation, said that he woke up at 03:35 "at a loud noise, like an explosion". He later found out that a munition depot was on fire in the village of Staraya Nelidovka. There are no casualties and no damage to residential buildings.
Later on, Roman Starovoyt, Governor of Kursk Region of the Russian Federation, claimed that the loud banging sounds Kursk residents heard on the night of 26-7 April were the work of air defence equipment.
2 explosions were also reported in a neighbourhood in the Russian city of Voronezh.
On 26 April the Russian Ministry of Defence for the second time threatened to strike "decision-making centres" in Kyiv if Ukraine attacks facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation.

Beavis, he said "demilitarisation"!

A little history lesson:

Prodrazvyorstka, also transliterated Prodrazverstka (Russian: продразвёрстка, IPA: [prədrɐˈzvʲɵrstkə], short for продовольственная развёрстка, lit. 'food apportionment') was a policy and campaign of confiscation of grain and other agricultural products from peasants at nominal fixed prices according to specified quotas (the noun razvyorstka, Russian: развёрстка, and the verb razverstat, refer to the partition of the requested total amount as obligations from the suppliers). This strategy often led to the deaths of many country-dwelling people, such as its involvement with the Holodomor famine.

The term is commonly associated with war communism during the Russian Civil War when it was introduced by the Bolshevik government.

And now to the modern times:

TO REPLENISH THE FUND OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS IS PLANNED WITH SUPPLY FROM UKRAINE
As part of the implementation of the strategy of state support for the agro-industrial complex and the development of rural areas of the region, the Committee of the Legislative Assembly for Rural Affairs and Agro-Industrial Policy adopted a resolution on initiating the supply of agricultural products from Ukraine.

The deputies at the meeting almost unanimously supported the decision to import grain from the Kherson region, which was partially taken under the control of the RF Armed Forces as part of the Special Operation on the territory of Ukraine. Since there is only one cucumber production plant in the region, and the lack of other vegetables and grain crops as a result of the introduction of foreign sanctions is felt acutely not only in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, but everywhere at the federal level, the expropriation of last year’s and this year’s crop surpluses from farmers in the Kherson region will become one from tools to assist small businesses, consumer cooperatives.

Committee Chairman Vladislav Zyryanov admits that colleagues from other regions will be able to successfully implement such experience in the future. “Despite the fact that logistics involves long-distance sea and land transportation, this approach will be economically justified, given the withdrawal of many suppliers of seeds and fertilizers from the Russian market, as well as significant costs for heat and electricity to grow our own vegetables and fruits. After achieving all the goals of the military operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, it will also be possible to increase the volume of supplies for the domestic Russian consumer by moving food from other southern regions taken under control, ”he is sure.

April 27, 2022
press service of the Legislative Assembly of the Krasnoyarsk Territory
Press Release No. 379 (13593)

(google translated from https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pgcrUDtAKPsJ:https://www.sobranie.info/newsinfo.php%3FUID%3D69969+&cd=7&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ua)

I finally found something on Azovstal - that's the "underground city" our "news" was talking about a couple of weeks ago where they were saying that the fighting would go on for months because of it - it was built by the USSR, so the Russians just sealed it up knowing precisely the layout of the entire complex.



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Look at this BS you get from Western news:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/28/europe/mariupol-azovstal-steel-plant-intl-cmd/index.html?source=patrick.net

I am hoping at the end of this, the entire fucking US propaganda structure is destroyed. All US media has dropped this story, but there are still people down there. Rumors are that they were given to 4/20 to surrender - that's Hitler's birthday. There's also rumors there are US biological weapons labs there.

There was a recording of a Chechen addressing a bunch of people that surrendered where the translation indicated that as he addressed them, he was saying that US did the same thing to Chechnya - that they took small but radical groups - funded them, encouraged them, made them turn on their citizens, stoked civil war. Now that certainly can be propaganda for sure, but I believe this is what that cunt Victoria Nuland her fellow Neocon scum have been doing to Ukraine for 8 years. They are the enemies of humanity, and they reside here.

Lovely - the Russians are winning so bad trying to defeat their impoverished neighbor next door, their State controlled Media mouthpieces are now openly musing about nuclear war not being so bad.

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Russia's state TV tells viewers 'we're all going to die someday': Nuclear war is 'most probable outcome', viewers are told, 'but we will go to heaven while they simply croak'

Vladimir Putin will launch an all-out nuclear war on the West rather than accept defeat in Ukraine, Russia's chief propagandists have declared, in just the latest chilling threat coming from Moscow.

Margarita Simonyan, editor of state broadcaster RT and one of the Kremlin's highest-profile mouthpieces, declared on TV last night that the idea of Putin pressing the red button is 'more probable' than the idea that he will allow Russia to lose the war.

'Either we lose in Ukraine,' she said, 'or the Third World War starts. I think World War Three is more realistic, knowing us, knowing our leader.

'The most incredible outcome, that all this will end with a nuclear strike, seems more probable to me than the other course of events.

'This is to my horror on one hand,' she told a panel of experts shifting nervously in their seats, 'but on the other hand, it is what it is. We will go to heaven, while they will simply croak... We're all going to die someday.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10762143/Ukraine-war-Russian-state-TV-says-nuclear-strike-probable-losing.html?source=patrick.net

Hole in one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUSxkpd-k9s&t=1s&source=patrick.net

The wreck diving site near the Snake Island is getting expanded and improved:

https://youtu.be/YfzxfjLk_i0?source=patrick.net


Two of these puppies are now available for your viewing pleasure if you make the dive:

socal2 says

Vladimir Putin will launch an all-out nuclear war on the West rather than accept defeat in Ukraine, Russia's chief propagandists have declared, in just the latest chilling threat coming from Moscow.

Well, the important thing to remember is that Joe Biden and others can continue to launder money through the nation they overthrew in 2014, so all this is worth it. Also, they have nuclear bomb shelters and you don't.

richwicks says

socal2 says

Vladimir Putin will launch an all-out nuclear war on the West rather than accept defeat in Ukraine, Russia's chief propagandists have declared, in just the latest chilling threat coming from Moscow.

Well, the important thing to remember is that Joe Biden and others can continue to launder money through the nation they overthrew in 2014, so all this is worth it. Also, they have nuclear bomb shelters and you don't.

Nice piece if whataboutism, well done!

RWSGFY says

Nice piece if whataboutism, well done!

Define "whataboutism".

That's got to be the stupidest made up word I've ever heard, and for me it simply identifies somebody as not being much of a thinker.

Unboxing of a new present from Uncle "not a pedo" Vlad:

https://mobile.twitter.com/L_Team10/status/1520163060241027072?source=patrick.net

One is not supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth, but damn: no APU in a brand new 2020-2021 turbine-powered tank, no HEAT and no APFS, only 9M119 ATGMs and improperly fuzed HE in the magazine... Nice French NV equipment though, somehow reaching Russian tank factories loong after sanctions imposed in 2015.

RWSGFY says

Unboxing of a new present from Uncle "not a pedo" Vlad:

Biden certainly is:


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I just love how everything is only enforced or worried about for political and propaganda purposes.

https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/on-ukraine-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/?source=patrick.net

On Ukraine, world majority sides with Russia over US
Russia pivots to the dynamic East and fast-developing Global South
By JOHN WALSH
MAY 2, 2022

Patrick says

https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/on-ukraine-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/?source=patrick.net

On Ukraine, world majority sides with Russia over US
Russia pivots to the dynamic East and fast-developing Global South
By JOHN WALSH
MAY 2, 2022

richwicks says

Patrick says

https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/on-ukraine-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/?source=patrick.net

On Ukraine, world majority sides with Russia over US
Russia pivots to the dynamic East and fast-developing Global South
By JOHN WALSH
MAY 2, 2022

I guess when you include billions of Chinese and Indian illiterate peasants, Russia can claim "majorities" support his invasion of a sovereign neighbor?

I bet Putin has got the North Korean population in his corner too!

So very impressive!

socal2 says

I guess when you include billions of Chinese and Indian illiterate peasants, Russia can claim "majorities" support his invasion of a sovereign neighbor?

There's no different than the United States. 99% of the population wouldn't be able to name the last 7 nations the US bombed if you put a gun to their KID's head.

socal2 says

I bet Putin has got the North Korean population in his corner too!

The US government can get people on board to blow up a 3rd world nation by convincing them that Qaddafi is taking viagra to rape girls, then leave it in civil war with operating slavery markets, and people defend it.

Who gives a shit? People are idiots. I bet most of Ukraine has no fucking idea that their government has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

richwicks says

I bet most of Ukraine has no fucking idea that their government has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

Because it never happened, duh. Russians are always projecting onto others what they are doing or planning to do. The bombardment of civilian dwellings and infrastructure like hospitals and water supplies is on full display in Syria and now in Ukraine.

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

I bet most of Ukraine has no fucking idea that their government has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

Because it never happened, duh. Russians are always projecting onto others what they are doing or planning to do. The bombardment of civilian dwellings and infrastructure like hospitals and water supplies is on full display in Syria and now in Ukraine.

You are blind with your own propaganda. There are 14000 people who died in eastern ukraine. I heard about it from multiple sources.

indc says

You are blind with your own propaganda. There are 14000 people who died in eastern ukraine. I heard about it from multiple sources.

No, it's you who are blinded by Russian propaganda. Yes, 14000 people died from military action started by Russia in 2014. That number includes (and is mostly comprised of) Ukrainian military personell KIA repelling Russian attacks for 8 years. The stuff you declared as allegedly happening - bombings of Ukrainian cities by Ukrainian army - did not happen. Even now Donetsk and Lugansk are practically intact, becuse Ukrainian army didn't storm and level them in the manner Russian military is now storming and leveling other Ukrainian cities. It's a pure Russian projection. Ask Gonzalo Lira* to go and film Donetsk and Lugansk and then do the same in Mariupol (because all the available footage of completely leveled Mariupol is CGI for you). Ask him to confirm the state of services like electricity, water and gas in Donetsk and Lugansk (working w/o interruption for 8 years) and Mariupol (completely gone).

*) How's that story of him abducted and killed by SBU turned out? Exactly as predicted - booooolshiiiiiiiit.

Damn, that Snake Island turned out not the kind of vacation destination the liberators have hoped for:

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1521234811641372678?source=patrick.net
https://t.me/voynareal/20997?source=patrick.net

I'm also pretty sure that the Ukrainians have been killing a lot of their own ethnic Russian citizens for years now, mostly by indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas.

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

I bet most of Ukraine has no fucking idea that their government has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for 8 years.

Because it never happened, duh.

It's been reported by US media for years. Even the US media has reported on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas?source=patrick.net

Think that was just created?

https://web.archive.org/web/20160801000000*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas?source=patrick.net

I'm so tired of people like you. You expend no effort to know what is going on, and spread your ignorance as if it's the truth. You're the typical NPC propagandist robot. I know you don't experience shame, but I'm embarrassed for you.

Eric Holder says

indc says

You are blind with your own propaganda. There are 14000 people who died in eastern ukraine. I heard about it from multiple sources.

No, it's you who are blinded by Russian propaganda.

How many goddamned times does the US propaganda machine have to blatantly lie to you, how many times do you have to be repeatedly tricked, how many times do you have to be informed by other people who are doing a good faith in trying to inform you, before you realize, you've been lied to, tricked, and deceived YET AGAIN?

Are you purposely a fountain of disinformation, and lies - or are you a victim of it? I don't suspect you're a victim. What is it like to try to maintain control by constantly having to lie for a bunch of criminal scum? Where's your dignity and self respect? It is exceedingly difficult for me to believe you're being fooled again.

But if you are - it's your responsibility to understand any situation you discuss and be truthful about it.

Young liberators so eager to go and liberate some washing machines they light army conscription offices on fire. Literally.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1522201486654066688?source=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

Young liberators so eager to go and liberate some washing machines they light army conscription offices on fire. Literally.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1522201486654066688?source=patrick.net

For all I, or you know, that's being filmed in Detroit and they're burning down a retirement home. How can anybody tell anything from that?

Ivan needs to kick the habit of cruising to that cursed Snake Island - it is not good for Ivan's health:


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ship-admiral-makarov-ukraine-war-b2073007.html?amp=&source=patrick.net


This is filmed in Detroit at an old folks facility:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1522577787361677318?source=patrick.net

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Young liberators so eager to go and liberate some washing machines they light army conscription offices on fire. Literally.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1522201486654066688?source=patrick.net

For all I, or you know, that's being filmed in Detroit and they're burning down a retirement home. How can anybody tell anything from that?

Well, bless your heart.

Patrick says

Not patnet though: the anti-war rants here were epic....up until 02/24/2022. I actually miss these.

RWSGFY says

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Young liberators so eager to go and liberate some washing machines they light army conscription offices on fire. Literally.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1522201486654066688?source=patrick.net

For all I, or you know, that's being filmed in Detroit and they're burning down a retirement home. How can anybody tell anything from that?

Well, bless your heart.

People who aren't skeptical are just knowingly promoting propaganda. As I said, neither you nor I know where that was filmed or really when. That could have been filmed in 2008. We are at the peak of video fidelity - it will not improve from here until the end of time. In 2000 years from now, video quality will not have improved.

Have you forgotten the Ghost of Kyiv already? I am much worse, I still remember the bullshit that was Bana al-Abed. You will forget about event after event, forgetting they were disproven but I don't.

RWSGFY says

Not patnet though: the anti-war rants here were epic....up until 02/24/2022. I actually miss these.

You are promoting this war.

The end of it is simple. Ukraine agrees not to be part of NATO and to stop bombing Eastern Ukraine. You are against that settlement. So, a bunch of Ukrainians will die for no reason, a bunch of Russians will die for no reason, and the end will result will be that Ukraine won't be part of NATO and will stop bombing Eastern Ukraine.

You are the warmonger.

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Not patnet though: the anti-war rants here were epic....up until 02/24/2022. I actually miss these.

You are promoting this war.

The end of it is simple. Ukraine agrees not to be part of NATO and to stop bombing Eastern Ukraine. You are against that settlement. So, a bunch of Ukrainians will die for no reason, a bunch of Russians will die for no reason, and the end will result will be that Ukraine won't be part of NATO and will stop bombing Eastern Ukraine.

You are the warmonger.

Yes, this war has no reason except for stupid ambitions of one little balding man. All the lame excuses for it are even weaker than given for Iraq war: at least there was an open defiance of an UN resolution and refusal to let inspectors in. On Ukraine they have nothing except bogus claims of "Nazism".

So yeah, nice try, but this rant was weak sause, empty of any proof for casus belli.

Boy, that Snake Island is NOT a place to be right now if your name is Ivan!

First this SA-13 was fried:

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1521234811641372678?source=patrick.net

Then the landing ship bringing in the replacement for it:

https://youtu.be/Dv_gQA6o22U?source=patrick.net

And then, with air defense gone, this little lights and sounds show:

https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1523027490230444035?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net

https://youtu.be/ZCg_OIsr6uM?source=patrick.net