Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread
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Patrick
2022 Sep 27, 11:14am
Patrick
2022 Sep 27, 11:14am
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/09/12/ukraine-the-cias-75-year-old-proxy/
Joe Biden “is fueling the fire in the Ukraine.”
— Roger Waters of Pink Floyd ...
As Noam Chomsky expressed it: “It’s quite interesting that in American discourse, it is almost obligatory to refer to the invasion as the ‘unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.’ Look it up on Google, you will find hundreds of thousands of hits. Of course, it was provoked. Otherwise they wouldn’t refer to it all the time as an unprovoked invasion.” If Chomsky is not convincing enough, perhaps the U.S./NATO warmongers might heed Pope Francis, certainly no Russophile, who ascertained that the invasion is the result of “the barking of NATO at the gates of Russia…. I can’t say if it was provoked, but perhaps, yes.”
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Eric Holder
2022 Sep 27, 11:25am
Eric Holder
2022 Sep 27, 11:25am
Patrick says
Yeah, the only quick way to end a war against you is to surrender. And then find youself in a shallow grave with hands tied in the back and a bullet in your head. But this is the sacrifice that Waters cunt is willing to make for somebody else.
And isn't it ironic that Chomsky, CHOMSKY of all people, that old Commie cunt, is now fawned upon by so-called "conservatives"? What a fucking joke. "I find myself agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez... and Xi.... and Chomsky.... BUT I AM CONSERVATIVE!!!"
Americans used to understand the simple mechanics of fighting a colonial power to assure independence from it, but no more. I blame homeschooling on this pussyfication of the nation: people who went to public schools learn very early that giving away your lunch money today doesn't buy you anything except the chance to give them both your lunch money and a Gameboy tomorrow.
If any of these fucks sincerely wanted to end the war ASAP they would clamour for return of nuclear weapons and strategic means of delivery taken from Ukraine in 1994 in exchange for US assurances of their sovereignty, territorial integrity and freedom from threat by force. But they won't because this is not in Putler's interest.
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/09/12/ukraine-the-cias-75-year-old-proxy/
Joe Biden “is fueling the fire in the Ukraine.”
— Roger Waters of Pink Floyd ...
As Noam Chomsky expressed it: “It’s quite interesting that in American discourse, it is almost obligatory to refer to the invasion as the ‘unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.’ Look it up on Google, you will find hundreds of thousands of hits. Of course, it was provoked. Otherwise they wouldn’t refer to it all the time as an unprovoked invasion.” If Chomsky is not convincing enough, perhaps the U.S./NATO warmongers might heed Pope Francis, certainly no Russophile, who ascertained that the invasion is the result of “the barking of NATO at the gates of Russia…. I can’t say if it was provoked, but perhaps, yes.”
Yeah, the only quick way to end a war against you is to surrender. And then find youself in a shallow grave with hands tied in the back and a bullet in your head. But this is the sacrifice that Waters cunt is willing to make for somebody else.
And isn't it ironic that Chomsky, CHOMSKY of all people, that old Commie cunt, is now fawned upon by so-called "conservatives"? What a fucking joke. "I find myself agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez... and Xi.... and Chomsky.... BUT I AM CONSERVATIVE!!!"
Americans used to understand the simple mechanics of fighting a colonial power to assure independence from it, but no more. I blame homeschooling on this pussyfication of the nation: people who went to public schools learn very early that giving away your lunch money today doesn't buy you anything except the chance to give them both your lunch money and a Gameboy tomorrow.
If any of these fucks sincerely wanted to end the war ASAP they would clamour for return of nuclear weapons and strategic means of delivery taken from Ukraine in 1994 in exchange for US assurances of their sovereignty, territorial integrity and freedom from threat by force. But they won't because this is not in Putler's interest.
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AD
2022 Sep 27, 11:57pm
AD
2022 Sep 27, 11:57pm
Yeah, once Russian solidifies its control in eastern Ukraine such as Dombas and north of Crimea than it will continue to put pressure further east toward Kiev.
I don't see Russia just stopping and holding ground.
The problem is outside those occupied regions, there was not as much support for Russia prior to the invasion. I suspect there is very little to no support now especially in cities like Kharkiv.
So does Putin try to force all dissident Ukrainians out and further west as he tries to gain even more land such as Odessa ?
I agree, as with Putin, its either you comply or you get pushed out of your home /homeland (and are lucky enough to not end in a mass grave).
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I don't see Russia just stopping and holding ground.
The problem is outside those occupied regions, there was not as much support for Russia prior to the invasion. I suspect there is very little to no support now especially in cities like Kharkiv.
So does Putin try to force all dissident Ukrainians out and further west as he tries to gain even more land such as Odessa ?
I agree, as with Putin, its either you comply or you get pushed out of your home /homeland (and are lucky enough to not end in a mass grave).
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AD
2022 Sep 28, 12:03am
AD
2022 Sep 28, 12:03am
Eric Holder says
Yes, listen to Putin's reasoning. It was ramblings but his first reason was that Ukraine was attacking Dombas.
Then he went off on a tangent that Ukraine is historically and culturally part of Russia and that he was going to do them a favor by occupying it and bringing it into the Russian Federation. That was enough to show what his real motivation was, and that any other reason for invading Ukraine is a red herring or lie.
I don't know further east he can go into Ukraine cause its been 30 years since their independence. Most of the hardliners in Ukraine who may be somewhat lukewarm to the Kremlin are at least 75 years old.
He is going to have a hard time even trying to put a puppet government in Kiev if he was to reach to that level of victory. It would be rejected by most people and he could not get the Ukraine military and police to act as Kremlin's enforcers given all the bad blood that has happened since 2014.
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Americans used to understand the simple mechanics of fighting a colonial power to assure independence from it
Yes, listen to Putin's reasoning. It was ramblings but his first reason was that Ukraine was attacking Dombas.
Then he went off on a tangent that Ukraine is historically and culturally part of Russia and that he was going to do them a favor by occupying it and bringing it into the Russian Federation. That was enough to show what his real motivation was, and that any other reason for invading Ukraine is a red herring or lie.
I don't know further east he can go into Ukraine cause its been 30 years since their independence. Most of the hardliners in Ukraine who may be somewhat lukewarm to the Kremlin are at least 75 years old.
He is going to have a hard time even trying to put a puppet government in Kiev if he was to reach to that level of victory. It would be rejected by most people and he could not get the Ukraine military and police to act as Kremlin's enforcers given all the bad blood that has happened since 2014.
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Patrick
2022 Sep 28, 2:48pm
Patrick
2022 Sep 28, 2:48pm
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/27/poll-americans-support-quick-diplomatic-end-to-war-in-ukraine/
US does not want an end to the war. Russia is a threat to global government by corporations.
US does not want an end to the war. Russia is a threat to global government by corporations.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Sep 28, 5:25pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Sep 28, 5:25pm
Patrick says
I really hate globalism, fucking cancer. Just creates monopoly of very wealthy assholes, who own everything, decide who lives or dies, and we all become beholden to them. Because there is always enough worthless ladder climbers who will do anything and everything immoral they are told to by the elites to climb their fucking ladders.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/27/poll-americans-support-quick-diplomatic-end-to-war-in-ukraine/
US does not want an end to the war. Russia is a threat to global government by corporations.
I really hate globalism, fucking cancer. Just creates monopoly of very wealthy assholes, who own everything, decide who lives or dies, and we all become beholden to them. Because there is always enough worthless ladder climbers who will do anything and everything immoral they are told to by the elites to climb their fucking ladders.
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Eric Holder
2022 Sep 29, 11:17am
Eric Holder
2022 Sep 29, 11:17am
Patrick says
How? The fuckers are in "unlimited partnership" with China, for Pete's sake. There is nothing more globalist than that. Also they got utterly dependent on global corporations for everything - agro, oil&gas, car manufacturing, consumer goods, IT, etc. They embraced the whole coof BS with masks, lockdowns, QR codes, vaxxination and all... So much anti-globalism it hurs, LOL.
Russia is a threat to global government by corporations.
How? The fuckers are in "unlimited partnership" with China, for Pete's sake. There is nothing more globalist than that. Also they got utterly dependent on global corporations for everything - agro, oil&gas, car manufacturing, consumer goods, IT, etc. They embraced the whole coof BS with masks, lockdowns, QR codes, vaxxination and all... So much anti-globalism it hurs, LOL.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2022 Sep 29, 2:12pm
so now that they voted territories into Russia… whats next?
Is Biden gonna go pee on their pipeline again?
Is Biden gonna go pee on their pipeline again?
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Patrick
2022 Sep 29, 4:01pm
Patrick
2022 Sep 29, 4:01pm
Eric Holder says
OK, Russia is a threat to global government by American corporations.
They are an independent power that is not obeying orders from the NSA. That's why the NSA is doing whatever it can to make Americans hate Putin.
Patrick says
Russia is a threat to global government by corporations.
How? The fuckers are in "unlimited partnership" with China, for Pete's sake. There is nothing more globalist than that.
OK, Russia is a threat to global government by American corporations.
They are an independent power that is not obeying orders from the NSA. That's why the NSA is doing whatever it can to make Americans hate Putin.
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richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 4:13am
richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 4:13am
Eric Holder says
Zelenskyy is a traitor. That's how he should end up.
Instead, he's sending millions of Ukrainians to their grave.
All he had to do was refuse to join NATO and implement the Minsk Accords and this whole, stupid war, could have been avoided - or at least, Russia wouldn't have been able to make any excuse for that war.
Yeah, the only quick way to end a war against you is to surrender. And then find youself in a shallow grave with hands tied in the back and a bullet in your head. But this is the sacrifice that Waters cunt is willing to make for somebody else.
Zelenskyy is a traitor. That's how he should end up.
Instead, he's sending millions of Ukrainians to their grave.
All he had to do was refuse to join NATO and implement the Minsk Accords and this whole, stupid war, could have been avoided - or at least, Russia wouldn't have been able to make any excuse for that war.
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richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 4:17am
richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 4:17am
ad says
That's the ultimatum that the US has given in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Somalia.
Of course, leaving those nations alone wouldn't have effects on the United States at all, except save it trillions of dollars. But who cares? It's not like the people who started these wars paid for them. The American public did, fuck them.
I agree, as with Putin, its either you comply or you get pushed out of your home /homeland (and are lucky enough to not end in a mass grave).
That's the ultimatum that the US has given in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Somalia.
Of course, leaving those nations alone wouldn't have effects on the United States at all, except save it trillions of dollars. But who cares? It's not like the people who started these wars paid for them. The American public did, fuck them.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Sep 30, 8:32am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Sep 30, 8:32am
Patrick says
this reminds me a lot of what they did in Iraq. Constant stream of "Saddam is evil and needs to go" propaganda. The guys who do all the government propaganda here don't seem to change much. It's as if they just reuse templates or something. Fill in the blank, replace the names, send to newspapers and social media... get paid.
Kind of like a giant system built around cold war, that doesn't have a need to exist or just needs to reform itself. But instead resists any change because there are so many monied interests involved, that this giant network creates a need for itself to exist vs actually being needed. Sometimes I think it's a good thing they are focused on Russia. Because when they don't focus on Russia, they start harassing us Americans, entrapping us and calling us domestic terrorists just to justify their fucking pathetic government existence and bloated fucking budgets.
OK, Russia is a threat to global government by American corporations.
They are an independent power that is not obeying orders from the NSA. That's why the NSA is doing whatever it can to make Americans hate Putin.
this reminds me a lot of what they did in Iraq. Constant stream of "Saddam is evil and needs to go" propaganda. The guys who do all the government propaganda here don't seem to change much. It's as if they just reuse templates or something. Fill in the blank, replace the names, send to newspapers and social media... get paid.
Kind of like a giant system built around cold war, that doesn't have a need to exist or just needs to reform itself. But instead resists any change because there are so many monied interests involved, that this giant network creates a need for itself to exist vs actually being needed. Sometimes I think it's a good thing they are focused on Russia. Because when they don't focus on Russia, they start harassing us Americans, entrapping us and calling us domestic terrorists just to justify their fucking pathetic government existence and bloated fucking budgets.
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Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 10:24am
Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 10:24am
https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-seen-on-raft-asking-for-donations-from-flooded-florida-residents
FORT MYERS, FL — As emergency crews worked tirelessly to rescue Floridians with the sense to stay out of Georgia, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was seen on a rescue boat, paddling door to door and asking for donations to support the war effort against Russia.
Zelensky explained to victims of Hurricane Ian that $60 Billion was barely enough to buy a few drones from American arms dealers and that the Rolex on his wrist was a knock-off.
"Madam, is that your purse floating away in the raging torrent?" said Zelensky to an elderly woman fighting off a gator. "If you could swim over and grab it, that'd be great. Every little bit helps."
Zelensky was seen throughout Fort Myers weaving between rescue boats and flooded homes, reminding Floridians who had not yet succumbed that Putin was pure evil. After that, he took some time to visit any celebrities who lived nearby because he had only met most of them via Zoom. One Floridian called from her rooftop to remind Zelensky she had already helped by changing her profile picture to the Ukrainian flag for nearly three weeks.
At publishing time, Congress had passed the Hurricane Ian Recovery Act, aimed at sending FEMA workers and $30 Billion to Ukraine.
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Bd6r
2022 Sep 30, 1:56pm
Bd6r
2022 Sep 30, 1:56pm
As predicted before, idiot geostrategist Putler lost Central Asia to China due to his attack on Ukraine:
https://www.akorda.kz/en/president-kassym-jomart-tokayev-held-a-meeting-with-president-xi-jinping-of-china-1484612
President Xi Jinping highly appreciated the level of Kazakh-Chinese relations and expressed confidence that this visit will give a new impetus to its further strengthening. He stressed that China supports Kazakhstan’s position on regional and international issues. No matter how the international situation changes, *we will continue our strong support to Kazakhstan in protecting its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity*, as well as firm support to the reforms you are carrying out to ensure stability and development, and strongly oppose to the interference of any forces in the internal affairs of your country. China has been and remains a trusted friend and reliable partner of Kazakhstan.
Note that Russians had designs on Northern Kazakhstan not too dissimilar to ones in Donbas. Now Russians can suck on Chinese dick instead of annexing Kazakh territory, while Chinese have access to almost half of world's uranium supply, a lot of oil and gas, and many other raw materials.
https://www.akorda.kz/en/president-kassym-jomart-tokayev-held-a-meeting-with-president-xi-jinping-of-china-1484612
President Xi Jinping highly appreciated the level of Kazakh-Chinese relations and expressed confidence that this visit will give a new impetus to its further strengthening. He stressed that China supports Kazakhstan’s position on regional and international issues. No matter how the international situation changes, *we will continue our strong support to Kazakhstan in protecting its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity*, as well as firm support to the reforms you are carrying out to ensure stability and development, and strongly oppose to the interference of any forces in the internal affairs of your country. China has been and remains a trusted friend and reliable partner of Kazakhstan.
Note that Russians had designs on Northern Kazakhstan not too dissimilar to ones in Donbas. Now Russians can suck on Chinese dick instead of annexing Kazakh territory, while Chinese have access to almost half of world's uranium supply, a lot of oil and gas, and many other raw materials.
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RWSGFY
2022 Sep 30, 6:35pm
RWSGFY
2022 Sep 30, 6:35pm
Ruscia strong! And has the best edumacation in the world!! Ruscia got robots on the battlefield!! De-mining robots, to be exact:
Cool, huh?
And this is the same robot after the first mine it "denazified":
The mine was destroyed so we can't cal it a failure, can we?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ynRbsr8_Y
Cool, huh?
And this is the same robot after the first mine it "denazified":
The mine was destroyed so we can't cal it a failure, can we?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ynRbsr8_Y
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richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 8:22pm
richwicks
2022 Sep 30, 8:22pm
RWSGFY says
It's not the same machine.
What's the point of propagandizing the public in this stupid war?
Ruscia strong! And has the best edumacation in the world!! Ruscia got robots on the battlefield!! De-mining robots, to be exact:
Cool, huh?
And this is the same robot after the first mine it "denazified":
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ynRbsr8_Y
It's not the same machine.
What's the point of propagandizing the public in this stupid war?
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Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 9:23pm
Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 9:23pm
Bd6r says
Khazakhstan seems like a place that Russia and China are destined to fight over, as it has large borders with both.
https://www.akorda.kz/en/president-kassym-jomart-tokayev-held-a-meeting-with-president-xi-jinping-of-china-1484612
President Xi Jinping highly appreciated the level of Kazakh-Chinese relations and expressed confidence that this visit will give a new impetus to its further strengthening. He stressed that China supports Kazakhstan’s position on regional and international issues. No matter how the international situation changes, we will continue our strong support to Kazakhstan in protecting its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity
Khazakhstan seems like a place that Russia and China are destined to fight over, as it has large borders with both.
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Bd6r
2022 Sep 30, 9:26pm
Bd6r
2022 Sep 30, 9:26pm
Patrick says
Fight is over already, Chinese have won and Central Asian is divided between Turkey and China. Kazakhstan is now a Chinese client state, the only country China and Turkey need to eject Russians from is Tajikistan.
Khazakhstan seems like a place that Russia and China are destined to fight over, as it has large borders with both.
Fight is over already, Chinese have won and Central Asian is divided between Turkey and China. Kazakhstan is now a Chinese client state, the only country China and Turkey need to eject Russians from is Tajikistan.
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Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 10:39pm
Patrick
2022 Sep 30, 10:39pm
It's never over.
Well, if Bidet keeps provoking nuclear war, it might be over for all of us.
Well, if Bidet keeps provoking nuclear war, it might be over for all of us.
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RWSGFY
2022 Oct 1, 7:54am
RWSGFY
2022 Oct 1, 7:54am
Bd6r says
Ruscia is Chyna's bitch too.
Patrick says
Khazakhstan seems like a place that Russia and China are destined to fight over, as it has large borders with both.
Fight is over already, Chinese have won and Central Asian is divided between Turkey and China. Kazakhstan is now a Chinese client state, the only country China and Turkey need to eject Russians from is Tajikistan.
Ruscia is Chyna's bitch too.
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RWSGFY
2022 Oct 1, 8:59am
RWSGFY
2022 Oct 1, 8:59am
Belbek Airport celebrates Annexation Day with spontaneous fireworks:
https://twitter.com/Iasen_Kostov/status/1576227252731510784
If you forgot, that's Crimea, annexed back in 2014. Means nothing to the Ukie military, apparently. Medvedev promised "apocalypse" if Crimea ever gets hit, btw. Back in June, iirc.... Since than the major air base in Saki was destroyed, Black Sea HQ hit, Djankoi ammo depot turned into fireworks show, etc.
https://twitter.com/Iasen_Kostov/status/1576227252731510784
If you forgot, that's Crimea, annexed back in 2014. Means nothing to the Ukie military, apparently. Medvedev promised "apocalypse" if Crimea ever gets hit, btw. Back in June, iirc.... Since than the major air base in Saki was destroyed, Black Sea HQ hit, Djankoi ammo depot turned into fireworks show, etc.
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 11:21am
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 11:21am
And just like that a vote recount in Lyman has reversed the annexation of Dumb Ass just two days after the referendum...
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 11:23am
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 11:23am
Tenpoundbass says
You're being unfair to the RuAF: they did lost many aircraft to older Soviet gear and some Western MANPADs, but suggesting they lost them to some clown sitting in a barrel is going too far...
You're being unfair to the RuAF: they did lost many aircraft to older Soviet gear and some Western MANPADs, but suggesting they lost them to some clown sitting in a barrel is going too far...
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 12:54pm
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 3, 12:54pm
richwicks says
Nah, Powell is dead and the picture is penned by Lavrov as a proof of big bad West unfairly hurting Poor Mother Russia with eeeevil weapons of doom for no good reason whatsoever.
RWSGFY says
I didn't realize Colin Powell was still making cartoon drawings for the UN...
Nah, Powell is dead and the picture is penned by Lavrov as a proof of big bad West unfairly hurting Poor Mother Russia with eeeevil weapons of doom for no good reason whatsoever.
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gabbar
2022 Oct 3, 1:17pm
gabbar
2022 Oct 3, 1:17pm
Patrick says
It may happen but if it does happen, it will be planned and set off with an end game (digital currency or something else)
It's never over.
Well, if Bidet keeps provoking nuclear war, it might be over for all of us.
It may happen but if it does happen, it will be planned and set off with an end game (digital currency or something else)
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RWSGFY
2022 Oct 4, 9:24am
RWSGFY
2022 Oct 4, 9:24am
A vote recount has just reversed the annexation of another oblast - Kherson:
PS. Ceffer was right: military is the most effective organization for holding swift vote recounts and restoring election integrity. Too bad some of them only capable of seizing some servers in Italy...
On Monday, the spokesperson for the Russian Defense Ministry acknowledged that “superior tank units” of Ukraine had “wedged in the depth of our defense line” near the villages of Zolota Balka and Oleksandrivka in the Kherson region.
PS. Ceffer was right: military is the most effective organization for holding swift vote recounts and restoring election integrity. Too bad some of them only capable of seizing some servers in Italy...
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 10:16am
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 10:16am
RWSGFY says
Yeah, what happened to that? @Ceffer?
Too bad some of them only capable of seizing some servers in Italy...
Yeah, what happened to that? @Ceffer?
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 11:47am
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 11:47am
Where is our latest alina with meaningless jumble of characters for a screen handle who liked to post maps from that Ruscist "war correspondent" Rybar? WTF? Do I have to do your job for you?
Ok, just this one time:
The vote recount seems to be going well.
Ok, just this one time:
The vote recount seems to be going well.
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 12:00pm
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 12:00pm
Don't you love to see true classics being given a second lease on life (albeit short)?
I mean these tanks are legit 60 years old, but look at them with their cute cope cages!
(The dates are in Euro fashion with month and day flipped).
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577282414572802048
I mean these tanks are legit 60 years old, but look at them with their cute cope cages!
(The dates are in Euro fashion with month and day flipped).
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577282414572802048
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Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 12:09pm
Honey, the tanks are in post #1664.
Eric Holder
2022 Oct 4, 12:09pm
Pro-Putin blogger Anastasiya Kashevarova delivered an angry rant against the military leadership,
She said that Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and the chief of General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, had questions to answer”.
"Are you men or not?” She railed. “Do you have any balls or not? Why are you still mincing your words in case something bad happens? You are still defending Lapin in your cowardly posts!”
"Is the president aware of what is happening? Is anyone keeping him apprised? Where are the supplies? Where are the [tanks]? Where is everything? How did it come to this? Has it all been stolen? Sold off? Where has it all gone? Did it even exist in the first place?" she demanded.
Honey, the tanks are in post #1664.
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