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Russia still losing bigly:

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/41475
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/ukrainian-post-mortems-starting-appear/

socal2 #3354

Do you actually believe that Russia couldn't level Kiev to ground level, using strictly conventional weapons and air power, if they really wanted to?

By the way, when Ukraine gets the F-16s, who is going to fly them? Do you think that those unwilling Ukrainians that are being taken off the streets might be trained as pilots? Could be, right?

See, even crippled, aged and disabled Ukrainians pulled off the streets can defeat those pathetic Russians.

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/116692

RayAmerica says

Do you actually believe that Russia couldn't level Kiev to ground level, using strictly conventional weapons and air power, if they really wanted to?

Not asking me, but no. 2 years in and they haven't. Isreal and Gaza has shown what you can get away with. Russia can't. They've created nothing new. They're using 70-80's tech. This is not even a naval war and they've lost whatever percent of their fleet.

Ukraine will lose. Russia will walk away with its cock tucked between its legs in a land war with a neighbor. They'll retain land they already had. There's no dispute they look like shit. Russia gets what they already had and looks like absolute dumb asses in the process of it. Indisputable.

Ceffer says

See, even crippled, aged and disabled Ukrainians pulled off the streets can defeat those pathetic Russians.

At 58 I'm sure that I could operate a drone at the front.

RayAmerica says

socal2 #3354

Do you actually believe that Russia couldn't level Kiev to ground level, using strictly conventional weapons and air power, if they really wanted to?

By the way, when Ukraine gets the F-16s, who is going to fly them? Do you think that those unwilling Ukrainians that are being taken off the streets might be trained as pilots? Could be, right?

Coming @socal2

Your bullshit is being called out, respond.

Btw...even on of Ukraine's leading propaganda arm is admitting that Ukraine Is Fucked:

UkraineIsFucked says

RayAmerica says

socal2 #3354

Do you actually believe that Russia couldn't level Kiev to ground level, using strictly conventional weapons and air power, if they really wanted to?

By the way, when Ukraine gets the F-16s, who is going to fly them? Do you think that those unwilling Ukrainians that are being taken off the streets might be trained as pilots? Could be, right?

Coming socal2

Your bullshit is being called out, respond.

Btw...even on of Ukraine's leading propaganda arm is admitting that Ukraine Is Fucked:

This was inevitable. I myself never thought this would last two years for a border war. Russia has shown it's weak. They're destroying the land they want to control while killing the men that would be needed to rebuild it. That part of Ukraine, soon to be Russia will be in turmoil for a decade at least. This isn't a win for Russia. It's stupid. There's an option not to pick a side. This whole thing was dumb from the beginning.

People gotta stop listening to colonel retard. Russia will get what they want but they've already lost. Ukraine lost. This was a proxy war and the US won. Europe won. We attacked and funded Ukraine on Ukrainian soil. Imagine if we hit Moscow? There's no war in Russia and they still can't win decisively. It's an absolute embarrassment for Russia.

We've put Russia back at least a decade militarily. Probably two or three if they last that long without collapsing, which I predict they will. They don't have the men and intelligence to run their own infrastructure.

Booger says

At 58 I'm sure that I could operate a drone at the front.

Ukraine is so desperate for anyone that has a pulse that they've put out a call to foreigners to join the fight.

I'm sure your age won't be a factor. Why not give it a shot?

RayAmerica says

Why not give it a shot?

Pun intended?

Ceffer says

"See, even crippled, aged and disabled Ukrainians pulled off the streets can defeat those pathetic Russians."

Why is Ukraine pulling the disabled, the crippled and the aged off the streets to fight Russia?

Answer: Because all the young Ukrainians are dead and injured!

The_Deplorable says

Answer: Because all the young Ukrainians are dead and injured!

Dead/crippled or bribed their way of it or fled the country

socal2 says

A Ukrainian "win" is kicking Russian occupiers out of their country.

Ukrainians win when the US deep state gets out of their business.

Remind me what Hunter did for Burisma?

socal2 says

In virtually every war in human history, attackers have 3X the death toll as the defenders.

Isn't Russia defending eastern Ukraine?

socal2 says

One of the reasons why Ukraine pulled back on this Summer's counteroffensive because they could not run through human lives as Russia has.

And attacker's lose 3 times as many soldiers as defenders.

Onvacation says

socal2 says

A Ukrainian "win" is kicking Russian occupiers out of their country.

Ukrainians win when the US deep state gets out of their business.

Remind me what Hunter did for Burisma?

Why wouldn't Ukrainians and Russians want to find a solution for donbass and crimea and live in peace and prosperity through trade?

socal2 says

"In virtually every war in human history, attackers have 3X the death toll as the defenders."

And in Ukraine the attackers are the United States, NATO and Ukraine. That is why Ukraine lost over 500,000 men and counting. And that is why the various counteroffensives failed and more important, failed to drive the ethnic Russians out of the Donbass.

The_Deplorable says

Why is Ukraine pulling the disabled, the crippled and the aged off the streets to fight Russia?

Answer: Because all the young Ukrainians are dead and injured!

Onvacation says

Isn't Russia defending eastern Ukraine?

Up is down, black is white in Russian apologetics. Commies are great at inverting reality.

Ukraine are the invaders now!

Here is Russia doing some "defense" with another suicidal meat-wave Kamikaze charge on Ukrainian positions.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1740484352205894003

socal2 says

Onvacation says

Isn't Russia defending eastern Ukraine?

Up is down, black is white in Russian apologetics. Commies are great at inverting reality.

Russians getting ready to roll in their failed Ukrainian venture? I guess they have marinated the Ukrainian Slav Apocalypse enough? They seem to be stepping things up.

https://t.me/WW3INFO/31925

But just you wait. Ukraine has a bunch of those F-16's that are ready to take off (as soon as they Shanghai enough pilots off of Ukrainian streets).

Ceffer says

Russians getting ready to roll in their failed Ukrainian venture? I guess they have marinated the Ukrainian Slav Apocalypse enough? They seem to be stepping things up.

Russia working hard to replace the shit-ton of multi-million dollar tanks and APC's that Ukraine has destroyed with $1,000 FPV kamikaze drones?

How many tanks do you reckon Russia has lost so far?

socal2 says

Russia working hard to replace the shit-ton of multi-million dollar tanks and APC's that Ukraine has destroyed with $1,000 FPV kamikaze drones?

No. They are working hard to build up a shit ton of tanks and APCs for their 1 million well rested, often rotated from the front troops to use to pour into a near defenseless Ukraine in the coming future.

I notice how you don't mention arty. No big surprise, there. How many Ukeys have been slaughtered by Russian arty? You don't want to talk about that. Gets into the way of masturbating about shitty, downgraded F-16s that aren't going to accomplish shit.

It is the Russians destroying NATO shit with cheap drones. Them and a bunch of pirates called Houthi. Ukey drones are downed by Russian EW.

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RayAmerica says

But just you wait. Ukraine has a bunch of those F-16's that are ready to take off (as soon as they Shanghai enough pilots off of Ukrainian streets).

Are you saying crippled janitors can't fly an F16? How bigoted.

https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1744313678021660797

The_Deplorable says

https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1744313678021660797

But....

This thread gets more hysterical by the day. Russia got what they wanted in Crimea almost a decade ago. They built a bridge to it. They're absolute fucking morons trying to take land. This conflict isn't ending anytime soon. Anyone that cares simply doesn't understand the situation. There's no reason to care. NATO, EU and Europe's goal is to castrate Russia. So far a success. They give no shits about Ukraine.

You guys have to stop thinking this is Russia and Ukraine and who will "win" in the end. It's already over. We're actively killing Russians without sending troops. They don't have the demographics or intelligence to run their resources in Russia. Ukraine has nothing of consequence resource wise besides agriculture. We're killing Russians to fuck them over for decades and potentially a century.

We're shocked when we lose 200k jobs in a month. Those people can still work and are alive. The Russians are dead. And so are the Ukrainians. I don't get how anyone cannot see what this is truly about. We are killing Russia's future and doing it pretty damn well. Ukraine will be toast as well in the end. Who cares? They could have just played nice in the sandbox and agreed to a land acquisition deal that would have avoided all this. Nah, shoot and lob missiles at each other killing people. Low level intelligence.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/ukraine-army-orders-50-000-women-uniforms-amid-anti-mobilisation-sentiment-russias-war-101704816430352.html

Ukraine Army Orders 50,000 Women Uniforms Amid Anti-Mobilisation Sentiment

The Ukrainian Defence Ministry is set to buy 50,000 sets of women's uniforms. The purchase will be the first such since the start of the conflict in February 2022. It came a day before an expected parliamentary vote on amendments to the law on mobilisation. The proposed changes in the Ukrainian Army have caused a public outcry. Watch for more.

"No reason to buy them tampons. They won't live long enough." The Moloch Slav Furnace continues.

Ceffer says

"No reason to buy them tampons. They won't live long enough." The Moloch Slav Furnace continues.

Speaking of tampons - remember when Russian officers were telling their new cannon fodder to get tampons from their mothers, sisters and wives so they can be used for bandages?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsfwDSR4EU

Patrick says

Ukraine Army Orders 50,000 Women Uniforms Amid Anti-Mobilisation Sentiment

Attention Ukrainian Women (and others that pretend to be):

Do NOT, under any circumstances, walk down any Ukrainian street for any reason, that is, if you don't want to be Shanghaied into the Ukraine military in order to fight, and surely die, for a hopeless cause that is already lost.

RayAmerica says

Patrick says

Ukraine Army Orders 50,000 Women Uniforms Amid Anti-Mobilisation Sentiment

Attention Ukrainian Women (and others that pretend to be):

Do NOT, under any circumstances, walk down any Ukrainian street for any reason, that is, if you don't want to be Shanghaied into the Ukraine military in order to fight

LOL, Ukraine still doesn't conscript/mobilize men under 27. The issue of lowering that age to 25 is only being tentatively discussed now. They can, and do, join voluntarily. Women are not drafted at all, but can join. You think 50K uniforms for a 1.2M army of 40M country is some kind of groundbraking news? Bless your heart.

And no, not everyone in military actually fights. Trigger-pullers are only 20% of the total force.

This is complete propaganda bullshit, obviously.

But of the kind I don't mind being spread around.

#UkraineIsFucked

https://news.yahoo.com/female-ukrainian-pows-treated-russians-205800214.html

Those women can work in supply or fly drones as well as anyone. Plus if you are a total slut there is probably unlimited availability to get laid.

Booger says

Those women can work in supply or fly drones as well as anyone. Plus if you are a total slut there is probably unlimited availability to get laid.

Militaries have basically any civilian job imaginable. But simpletons gonna simpleton.

Most of the world’s leading navies are getting bigger—a lot bigger—by one key metric: tonnage.
But not the Russian navy. It’s struggling to grow at all, and for one main reason. The Ukrainian navy, which has no large front-line ships, keeps sinking and blowing up Russian vessels.
Reddit-user Phoenix_jz annually aggregates, analyzes and publishes the total tonnage of the top 10 navies. Their most recent survey, published this week, should encourage advocates of a free Ukraine—and worry proponents of Russian aggression.
In 2023, the Russian navy added just 6,300 tons and ended the year with a total tonnage of 2,152,000. The Russians would have added 17,700 tons last year through the new construction of a new frigate, corvettes, a minesweeper and submarines, but the Ukrainians destroyed Black Sea Fleet vessels together weighing 11,400 tons.
In losing nearly as much tonnage as it built in 2023, the Russian navy joins an exclusive and embarrassing club of stagnant or shrinking navies. The 886,000-ton Royal Navy also shrank in 2023, which is nothing new for what once was the world’s greatest fleet but in recent decades steadily has withered under the mismanagement of successive governments.
The 356,000-ton Italian navy shrank, but that’s mostly due to a gap between the decommissioning of some older warships and the commissioning of their new, and much larger, replacements.
The Russian navy is the only navy that can’t manage to grow mostly because it keeps losing ships in combat. Over the last year the fleet’s “woes in the Black Sea have continued unabated,” Phoenix_jz wrote.
The Black Sea Fleet began Russia’s wider war on Ukraine with around 50 large warships including the missile-cruiser Moskva, several frigates and corvettes, a dozen or so landing ships, diesel-electric submarines and a large flotilla of patrol boats.
This against a Ukrainian fleet that had just one large warship, the frigate Hetman Sahaydachniy. The Ukrainians scuttled the frigate at her mooring in Odesa in the early hours of the initial Russian attack in February 2022. With Hetman Sahaydachniy on the seafloor, the Ukrainian navy became a new kind of navy—one that mostly fights with drones and missiles, with a big assist from the air force.
In 23 months of hard fighting, the Black Sea Fleet has lost—to Ukrainian drones and missiles—its cruiser, four amphibious ships, a submarine, a supply ship and several patrol boats and landing craft. In 2023 “the most dramatic loss by far was the destruction of the [submarine] Rostov-on-Don in drydock at Sevastopol,” Phoenix_jz wrote. The sub displaced 3,100 tons.
Any other fleet might be able to make good its wartime losses, but the Russian shipbuilding sector collapsed with the end of the Soviet Union. It doesn’t help that what remained of the industry relied on maritime engines it imported from Ukraine—engines Ukraine no longer is willing to sell to Russia, for obvious reasons.
Today, Russian shipyards still manage to build large submarines, but they struggle to build surface warships heavier than a few thousand tons.
So while the world’s leading navy, the U.S. Navy, last year grew by 32,000 tons to a new total of 7,393,000 tons; and the fast-growing Chinese navy added 50,000 tons to total 2,899,000 tons; the Russian fleet grew barely at all.
It’s all because of the Ukrainian navy. A fleet with no large ships keeps destroying as much tonnage as the Russians manage to build.

RWSGFY says

Most of the world’s leading navies are getting bigger—a lot bigger—by one key metric: tonnage.
But not the Russian navy. It’s struggling to grow at all, and for one main reason. The Ukrainian navy, which has no large front-line ships, keeps sinking and blowing up Russian vessels.

So? Ukraine is a LAND war.

L-A-N-D



Was it the Soviet Navy that defeated Germany in WW2?

UkraineIsFucked says

So? Ukraine is a LAND war.

L-A-N-D

Huh?

Thought Putin decided to get hundreds of thousands of his men killed, in part because the need to protect his Black Sea fleet and naval facilities in Crimea? How did that work out?

socal2 says

Thought Putin decided to get hundreds of thousands of his men killed, in part because the need to protect his Black Sea fleet and naval facilities in Crimea? How did that work out?

The bullshit alternate reality you live in is amazing.