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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   368,672 views  4,040 comments

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3428   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 26, 3:27pm  

socal2 says

Mass demonstrations in Slovakia against the new Pro-Russian government. Demonstrations have been ongoing for over a week now and keep growing.


CIA
3429   RayAmerica   2024 Jan 27, 8:53am  

Yeah but, I've read in here that Ukraine is winning and Russia is losing bigly ...

US to change strategy on Ukraine – WaPo

The Biden administration has reportedly shifted focus to defensive tactics and will no longer help Kiev recapture lost territory

The US is working on a new strategy for Ukraine that would mark a departure, away from the offensives of 2023 and now toward frontline defense, the Washington Post has reported. The supposed adjustments come in response to Kiev’s failed counteroffensive last year, the newspaper added.

In its article on Friday, the newspaper quoted a senior White House official explaining that “it will be difficult for [Ukrainian forces] to try to mount the same kind of major push on all fronts that they tried to do last year.” In light of this, the hope is now much less ambitious – to ensure that Kiev does not lose any more ground to Moscow, the unnamed staffer told reporters.

This, however, does not mean that Ukraine’s military will just sit in their trenches, with what is described as a “swapping of territory” still likely in small cities and villages, the source told the WaPo.

Late last month, Politico reported similarly, of a realization that a “total victory” for Ukraine was unlikely...
3430   richwicks   2024 Jan 27, 1:51pm  

zzyzzx says

I figure it's either that or we are intentionally limiting weapons system to Ukraine due to supply constraints on the consumables (ammunition). It's not like Russia is doing any better in that department. They can't make stuff either and have to beg North Korea for stuff. At least north Koreans have food and oil now.


I don't know why you think they are "begging".

Russia runs a war as cost effectively as possible. The US does the opposite. The reason the US spends more on their military than any other CONTINENT does, is not because the US has the best military, it's because the US military will happily purchase a nail for $10. Why shouldn't they? They don't pay for it, YOU DO.
3431   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 28, 4:52pm  

RayAmerica says


The US is working on a new strategy for Ukraine that would mark a departure, away from the offensives of 2023 and now toward frontline defense


What happened to Russia getting it's ass kicked in the 'summer offensive'? Crimea was supposed to be taken back by now!

You can't take back territory by being defensive.
3434   Patrick   2024 Jan 31, 11:36am  

https://www.ft.com/content/21a5be9c-afaa-495f-b7af-cf937093144d


IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy
3435   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 31, 12:02pm  

Patrick says






What a retard. Ukraine is huge compared to Syria.
3436   Ceffer   2024 Jan 31, 12:12pm  

Ukraine is about 86 percent the size of Texas. I guess more like 70 percent now.
3437   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 31, 10:36pm  

"The birth rate in Ukraine is falling sharply. The next generation needs a plan”:

Ukraine is in a state where there are 0.7 children per woman of reproductive age, and the life expectancy of men is lower only in four countries in Africa.

“On average, one Ukrainian woman of reproductive age (from 15 to 50 years) has 0.7 children. At the same time, the life expectancy level in Ukraine among men is 57–58 years old - this is one of the lowest indicators in the world - only four African countries are lower: Lesotho (55), Central African Republic (55), Chad (54) and Nigeria ( 54).

🔸The demographic picture in Ukraine is grim, and a shortage of children, compounded by widespread violent deaths and the exodus of millions of refugees, has called the country's very survival into question.

🔸The country's population has recently decreased from 36 to 25 million people.


More demographically fucked than even China is.

What an accomplishment.


3438   Misc   2024 Jan 31, 10:44pm  

Of course, the birth rates are plunging. Every Ukranian woman of child birthing age left the country.
3440   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 12:11am  

Misc says

Of course, the birth rates are plunging. Every Ukranian woman of child birthing age left the country.


More so that so many Ukey males of reproductive age got slaughtered or crippled.

They are putting preggo females on the front, too.

Ukraine Is Fucked.
3441   WookieMan   2024 Feb 1, 5:06am  

UkraineIsFucked says

Misc says


Of course, the birth rates are plunging. Every Ukranian woman of child birthing age left the country.


More so that so many Ukey males of reproductive age got slaughtered or crippled.

They are putting preggo females on the front, too.

Ukraine Is Fucked.

This is true, but the same is happening to Russians. It really makes no sense for either side. As I've said this could have been handled so much differently. Russia could have just bought the land. All this does is make Russia look like a paper tiger. A supposed military super power cannot even control a space the size of New Jersey?

Chicago had more murders over the same time period we occupied Iraq and Afghanistan combined for US losses. Russia has lost substantially more in such a short time. Ukraine is toast for sure, but I think this drags on for a decade. Maybe longer to be honest. At least as long as Putin is alive.
3442   socal2   2024 Feb 1, 7:54am  

The Russian Navy just lost another ship.

https://twitter.com/U24_gov_ua/status/1753017546163290240


3443   RWSGFY   2024 Feb 1, 7:57am  

socal2 says

The Russian Navy just lost another ship.

https://twitter.com/U24_gov_ua/status/1753017546163290240





Noooooooo!
3444   socal2   2024 Feb 1, 7:59am  

UkraineIsFucked says

More demographically fucked than even China is.

What an accomplishment.


Yeah - just imagine China's demographics if it had a much bigger and stronger next door neighbor who invaded China with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, prisoners, mercenaries and drunk meat-sacks?
3445   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 8:37am  

socal2 says

The Russian Navy just lost another ship.

https://twitter.com/U24_gov_ua/status/1753017546163290240





Sure it did.

Oh...quick quiz to separate the idiots from those who aren't:

Ukraine War is a) a sea-based war like WW2 in the Pacific. Or b) a land-based war like EVERY war that has ever been fought in Ukraine. Or c) a Tesla battery war...see who has the least amount of Teslas spontaneously catch on fire as if by magic!
3446   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 8:39am  

socal2 says

Yeah - just imagine China's demographics if it had a much bigger and stronger next door neighbor who invaded China with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, prisoners, mercenaries and drunk meat-sacks?


So what?

NOW all if a sudden attrition doesn't matter to you.
3447   socal2   2024 Feb 1, 8:44am  

UkraineIsFucked says

Ukraine War is a) a sea-based war like WW2 in the Pacific. Or b) a land-based war like EVERY war that has ever been fought in Ukraine.


Since Russia said it planned on starving Ukraine and their economy to death with a naval blockade of Ukraine's grain exports - its a pretty big failure for Russia.

But you can keep pretending that Russia is "winning" anything in their total cockup of a war.
3448   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 9:43am  

socal2 says

Since Russia said it planned on starving Ukraine and their economy to death with a naval blockade of Ukraine's grain exports - its a pretty big failure for Russia.


Hahaha.

No. Just some imagined one for Ukey Nazi Fluffers who cannot wrap there head around the fact that Ukraine has lost this war.

Oh, and the Russians are still blocking those exports from the Ukey ports.

socal2 says

But you can keep pretending that Russia is "winning" anything in their total cockup of a war.


No pretending. Ukraine Is Fucked.
3449   WookieMan   2024 Feb 1, 10:03am  

UkraineIsFucked says

No pretending. Ukraine Is Fucked.

Dude, I don't get where you're going. I still don't think Socal has even said Ukraine will win this shit bomb. The point is that Russia looks like shit on so many levels. That's not deniable. Ukraine is not a NATO nation. So no, it's not a defeat against the west or NATO. All it did was make Russia's situation globally completely fucked. If that's winning, don't sign me up for that shit. Demographics are trash for both nations. Who is actually winning at this point? The chicks have all left to fuck men in Europe, US and South America. Winning.... lol.
3450   socal2   2024 Feb 1, 10:25am  

WookieMan says

Dude, I don't get where you're going. I still don't think Socal has even said Ukraine will win this shit bomb.


This is what it is like discussing Ukraine with some people.


3451   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 10:40am  

WookieMan says


Dude, I don't get where you're going.


That's because you keep promoting the wussy-pussy nonsense "ohhh..nobody is going to win this war because both sides suffer!"

Wrong. There is always a winner or loser. Especially in this case.

WookieMan says


still don't think Socal has even said Ukraine will win this shit bomb.


He just did in his previous post. Every time he posts bullshit and ridiculously conflates it to 'Russia is losing' he is also saying Ukraine is winning.

WookieMan says


The point is that Russia looks like shit on so many levels.


So what? So is Yemen.

It's not losing this war.

WookieMan says


is not a NATO nation


Oh yes it is. It can't pay its own pensions and government salaries. That all comes from us, for the most part. That makes it a NATO satrapy.

WookieMan says


it did was make Russia's situation globally completely fucked


Now you are posting bullshit just like socal does.

Russia's economy is booming. And about to do so even more if Biden is real about limiting LNG exports. They are winning DESPITE whatever problems they have.
3452   Onvacation   2024 Feb 1, 10:48am  

Does anyone know what Burisma payed Hunter for?

I think the answer to that question will give insight into why we are fighting a proxy war in Ukraine.
3453   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 1, 10:53am  

socal2 says

WookieMan says


Dude, I don't get where you're going. I still don't think Socal has even said Ukraine will win this shit bomb.


This is what it is like discussing Ukraine with some people.





See Wookie?

He is essentially denying Ukraine Is Fucked.

Whatever he said previously otherwise was a flat out lie.
3454   socal2   2024 Feb 1, 11:26am  

UkraineIsFucked says

He is essentially denying Ukraine Is Fucked


Uh no - just denying that Russia is winning anything despite their tremendous expenditure of blood and treasure.

You are essentially making the argument that a rapist who got their eyes gouged out by their victim and thrown into prison has "won" because they still managed to successfully rape their victim.
3455   Patrick   2024 Feb 2, 7:03am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/war-delirium


You didn’t ask, but things are not going so well in our remote-control war in Ukraine against Russia (Putinland). Our Zelensky team (we own it) got completely rope-a-doped, punched itself out, its knees are buckling. Victoria Nuland, the renowned State Department girlie war-hawk, says she’s confident that Congress will pass the new $61 billion aid package for the Z-team, according to Radio Free Europe, the blob’s official propaganda outlet. The blob wants you to think that Putin wants to turn all of Europe into Putinland. I’m sure. Tori Nuland probably thinks we can save Ukraine with the fabulous girlie army and some snazzy new drones from McDonnell Douglas. Hey, it’s war, war, war. Bomb them all — Iran, Russia, Texas — and let God sort them out.
3456   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 2, 7:13am  

socal2 says


Uh no - just denying that Russia is winning anything despite their tremendous expenditure of blood and treasure


You are denying the irrational.

socal2 says


You are essentially making the argument that a rapist who got their eyes gouged out by their victim and thrown into prison has "won" because they still managed to successfully rape their victim.


Russia is not getting the equivalent of eyes being gouged out. Except in Ukey Fluffer Imaginary Land.

You are projecting what is happening to Ukraine to avoid cognitive dissonance built up.by all your bullshit. Just like you do about EVs.

Ukraine is the nation-state equivalent of a brain dead patient on life support. A vegetable amongst nations. A satrapy of the US.

South Vietnam was more nationally self-functional when we left there.

Russia has almost 1 million mobilized now, a war economy that outproduces the West and embarrassed the West by making a mockery of their retarded sanctions.

But again, you can't deal with the cognitive dissonance...so.
3457   socal2   2024 Feb 2, 8:15am  

Trump all in on supporting Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1753100711544455480
3458   WookieMan   2024 Feb 2, 9:01am  

UkraineIsFucked says

Russia has almost 1 million mobilized now, a war economy that outproduces the West and embarrassed the West by making a mockery of their retarded sanctions.

And they're losing humans and equipment. Ukraine was never going to win this thing and will be fucked for likely 40-50 years. I like Trump, but this isn't ending anytime soon even under his watch if he wins. If Russia was a super power this would have been over already and they got a tiny swath of land. It's embarrassing for anyone involved. More so for Russia from a global viewpoint.

I don't like any of this shit. I just filed taxes and paid $40k to the federal government when half the country pays zero. I have no interest in this war. With or without Western and European help, I still think the Ukrainians would make Russia look like shit. Aren't we past two years at this point?? That's not a super power by any means. Russia will win, but is getting it's ass handed to itself in the meantime. This should already be over.
3459   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 2, 9:40am  

socal2 says

Trump all in on supporting Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1753100711544455480


Grow a brain. He's all for setting Europe up to fail NATO again.
3460   WookieMan   2024 Feb 2, 11:10am  

UkraineIsFucked says

Grow a brain. He's all for setting Europe up to fail NATO again.

He definitely wants out of NATO. He wants the war done, but I don't think it's something he can achieve. Russia is going to occupy Ukraine for a decade. There won't be a permanent resolution to the conflict. Both nations are butt fucking themselves. The human loss isn't trivial on either side. They've fucked themselves for decades.

This isn't about winning or losing. It's about who is the bigger dumb ass. Russia has that trophy already at this point.
3461   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 2, 5:27pm  

WookieMan says


He definitely wants out of NATO. He wants the war done, but I don't think it's something he can achieve. Russia is going to occupy Ukraine for a decade. There won't be a permanent resolution to the conflict. Both nations are butt fucking themselves. The human loss isn't trivial on either side. They've fucked themselves for decades.


He'll end the war just like we ended the Vietnam War...pull out. (Which should be super easy to do since we don't have troops, er...'advisors' in satrapy to pull out, right?)

Europe won't pay up enough so that the US match total will do anything. Plus, we can't produce more arms that the Ukeys need, like tanks and ammo/shells. So it doesn't matter what we 'pledge'. Money can only buy what is actually produced.

Ukraine Is Fucked
3462   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 2, 10:14pm  

Ukraine's birth rate is toilet. So is Russia's.

Bringing in Central Asians won't help because their next generation will become 1 and a half child women also, which happened to previous waves of Central Asians immigrating to Russia West of the Urals. Khazakstan has the 2nd highest divorce rate in the world, behind the Maldives which is some kind of weird very mild Islamic resort/trust parking place for funny money.

OrthoBros tout Putin and of course Eastern Orthodoxy as the Saviours of Christendom, but Russia has the highest divorce rate in the world and one of the lowest birthrates, despite tightly regulating American Evango-Charismatic missionaries.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/divorce-rates-by-country

Damn, my retarded ass mispelled Atheist.

Fertility rate/child per woman:

Russia 1.6
Ukraine 1.3
Moldova, Belarus 1.3-1.4
Cyprus 1.3
Greece 1.4

Western Schismatics:
Italy 1.3
Austria, Poland 1.5
Ireland 1.7
Spain 1.6

Lutherans
Norway 1.6
Denmark 1.7

General Protestantism
USA 1.7

I leave Sweet Den and Al-France out due to their numbers being ginned up by "New Europeans". Germany and Netherlands and UK too mixed in religion and also ginned up by "New Europeans".

Just more evidence that "The Western MSN lies!!! Therefore RT, MintPress, Middle East Eye, and Muh Edgy influencers are 100% Correct!!!" is a thing, the way they carry on you'd think everything was good or at least a lot less bad in birthrates and marriages there. It's worse, and substantially so.

We live in interesting times.
3463   richwicks   2024 Feb 2, 10:26pm  

AmericanKulak says

Bringing in Central Asians won't help because their next generation will become 1 and a half child women also, which happened to previous waves of Central Asians immigrating to Russia West of the Urals.


The current fertility rate for Russia in 2024 is 1.826 births per woman, a 0.05% increase from 2023.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/fertility-rate

The current fertility rate for U.S. in 2024 is 1.786 births per woman, a 0.11% increase from 2023.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/fertility-rate
3464   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 3, 5:48pm  

AmericanKulak says
"Fertility rate/child per woman:"


Kulak, I cannot find the fertility rates in the link with the divorce rates. Do you have another table for the fertility rates?

Thanks
3465   WookieMan   2024 Feb 3, 8:16pm  

They could be fucking and pumping babies out like the world is gonna end. You need men AND women to have babies. Russia is losing both. The birth rate is a dip shit statistic. Sorry. Per capita is a thing. 200k men dying and probably 100k women leaving the country is a good thing?
3467   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 5, 12:07am  

The_Deplorable says


Kulak, I cannot find the fertility rates in the link with the divorce rates. Do you have another table for the fertility rates?


Sorry bud, forgot to put it in.





5 of those have majorities belonging/affilitated with (however nominally) of the Traditional Apostlic Churches, and yes, there's a lot more than just Orthodoxy and Catholic.

There's Church of the East, Oriental Churches, etc. many of which have their own Popes and Anti-Popes and Schisms within. For example, the Church of the East (Nestorian) has an Assyrian and "Regular" Pope right now and hate each other as schismatic false teachers. They haven't been in communion with the False Apostolic Succession of Catholics since 451 and with Orthodoxy since 431 based on those Babylonian Synogugue of Satan Church Councils (at Chalcedon 451 and Ephesus 431).

Something to keep in mind when Proddies are attacked for not having Tradition and Apostolic Succession, that there are Churches dating back before the fall of the Western Roman Empire and have tens of millions or more members that reject both Rome and Byzantium/Moscow.

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