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RayAmerica says

It's just too bad that Putin won't back off from his 'maximal demands,' give up all the conquered territory, give Crimea to Ukraine, pay war reparations, encourage Ukraine to join NATO and then put a gun to his nation's head and pull the trigger. Why, oh why, can't Putin just do the right thing?

Russians can just go home and stop getting their young men killed in their total fuckup of a war. Yes, Russia's vaunted pride might be hurt that they totally fucked up their invasion and embarrassed themselves to the whole world with their incompetence and corruption - but Russia is not going to face an existential threat of a foreign adversary will try to invade or take their resources.

Whereas, Ukraine hasn't been given any off-ramp to stop defending themselves from Russian invaders. And the short-bus people can't seem to understand why Ukraine won't just roll over a die.

socal2 says

Russians getting their young men killed in their total fuckup of a war.

It's called the Ukraine War. Not the Russian War.

And the only fuckup of a war is on the Ukey side. And they are out of men, but Russia is not.

Last: YOUR OPINION on what is or isn't too high a price for Russian attrition doesn't mean shit. Russia's opinion is.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

socal2 says

Russians getting their young men killed in their total fuckup of a war.

It's called the Ukraine War. Not the Russian War.

And the only fuckup of a war is on the Ukey side. And they are out of men, but Russia is not.

It started as Ukraine war because it was only Ukraine being invaded and bombed. But now Ukie bombard Soviet ports, refineries, power stations, strategic nuclear installations and such as far north as Murmansk and beyond Urals mountains to the west and ZSU regulars are holding former Soviet territory of Kursk for half a year already, lampshading Pukin's subjects and making soap out of their fat, and there is nothing Pukin can do about it. Not even with NoKo troops thrown in. Why? Because Pukin don't have enough men. Why? Because Red Army is losing men 5 to 1. Not my number, mind you, but Trump's adviser's - Lt. Gen. Kellogg. So it's Russia war now and the fuckup on their side is getting bigger and bigger every day.

RWSGFY says

So it's Russia war now and the fuckup on their side is getting bigger and bigger every day.

I'll beat the horse dead. Russia could have just bought the land. This is dumber than Iraq and Afghanistan and we at least took control of the countries immediately.

These are WWI tactics. Or just go back to our civil war and just line everyone up in the open and start shooting each other with rifles and shitty artillery.

Patrick says

He's holding out for more donuts and coffee. LOTS more.