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porkchopexpress saysShe's just confident I would always have a high-paying job. The fact is I'm in a very high demand technology field and would likely always have a job, so I'm fairly confident I'd be earning.I know, but can I continue to live my life that way? I want to own and I'm so tired of renting for so many goddamn years, but we all know the markets are fucking nuts and we're SO due for a recession.
That's an angle. Ask her what would happen if the job market tanked.
I'd take my kids out of school for a year and eat beans every night before having them take those shots. Your wife sounds like the type who would blame you either way. If you let them have shots, and their health suffers from it, she will blame you. If you insist they don't take the shots, she'll blame you for the results to a few life conveniences and opportunities. Whining and shrieking AFTER the fact of the jabs is too little too late. Also, there is a serious ethical question about how you deal with your own children knowing what you know when you let them take the jab but you had the opportunity to spare them.
File for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.I've thought about that. I did it for my new job and avoided the jab, but I'm not sure how CA schools would take an exemption, but it's definitely an option.
mostly reader saysHere's my search: https://www.zillow.com/brentwood-tn/sold/house_type/3-_beds/2.0-_baths/7_p/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%22currentPage%22%3A7%7D%2C%22usersSearchTerm%22%3A%22Brentwood%2C+TN%22%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-86.94309726337974%2C%22east%22%3A-86.59634128193443%2C%22south%22%3A35.87978411164303%2C%22north%22%3A36.07658069954294%7D%2C%22regionSelection%22%3A%5B%7B%22regionId%22%3A30583%2C%22regionType%22%3A6%7D%5D%2C%22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22filterState%22%3A%7B%22price%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A900000%2C%22max%22%3A1250000%7D%2C%22mp%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A3300%2C%22max%22%3A4584%7D%2C%22lot%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A10890%7D%2C%22built%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A2000%7D%2C%22sort%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3A%22days%22%7D%2C%22ah%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22con%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22mf%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22manu%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22land%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22tow%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22apa%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22apco%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22sch%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22beds%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A3%7D%2C%22baths%22%3A%7B%22min%22%3A2%7D%2C%22rs%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22fsba%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22fsbo%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22nc%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22cmsn%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22auc%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22fore%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%7D%2C%22isListVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapZoom%22%3A12%7D&source=patrick.netQuick Zillow check shows that Nashville is a lot cheaper than, say, Bay Area. 1.4mil buys a lot of house. Is it a hard number? I'd think that you may be able to lower it, perhaps a lot, without sacrificing your current living conditions. Or is it not so?Look at Franklin and Brentwood, specifically houses zoned to Ravenwood HS or Brentwood HS.
Everyone is bidding up homes like crazy. One is listed for $1.35M and has been bid up to $1.6M just in the first weekend. It’s nuts.
File for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.
RWSGFY saysTrue, but this DOJ could throw me in the brig if they find out.File for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.
This and if that doesn't work I know it's illegal but could you just make some fake vacine paperwork up, I mean come on its ok for illegals.
Filters: Brentwood, Sold, 900K-1.3mil, Build in 2000+, 1/4acre+, 3+bd, 2+ baYour filter is for sold homes. For sale? Much different story. There are a few options we're looking at, but the prices and inventory are ridiculous.
316 Results. Many of them recent.
Although the same filter changed to "For Sale" only showed 1 result. That 1 result was right under 1 mil but "coming soon".
Not sure what to make of it, and not sure about schools. Perhaps that's where the catch is.
Your filter is for sold homes. For sale? Much different story. There are a few options we're looking at, but the prices and inventory are ridiculous.Yes, I mentioned that part. Does it mean that the market it going through a drastic and rapid boom? Or perhaps there's something seasonal going on and there'll be more inventory going forward? What do the agents say?
porkchopexpress saysOk. The agent says this is the most abnormal market he's ever seen. He admits interest rates are rising, but he doesn't entirely believe that's going to drive prices down...granted, he's a realtor.Your filter is for sold homes. For sale? Much different story. There are a few options we're looking at, but the prices and inventory are ridiculous.Yes, I mentioned that part. Does it mean that the market it going through a drastic and rapid boom? Or perhaps there's something seasonal going on and there'll be more inventory going forward? What do the agents say?
RC2006 saysRWSGFY saysTrue, but this DOJ could throw me in the brig if they find out.File for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.
This and if that doesn't work I know it's illegal but could you just make some fake vacine paperwork up, I mean come on its ok for illegals.
porkchopexpress saysFor once in my life? No need to be a dick about it, but thanks for the idea.RC2006 saysRWSGFY saysTrue, but this DOJ could throw me in the brig if they find out.File for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.
This and if that doesn't work I know it's illegal but could you just make some fake vacine paperwork up, I mean come on its ok for illegals.
you dont need fake paperwork, get a fake jab....pay $500 for it.....make it worth their while.in a small clinic..think out of the box for once in your life
Ok. The agent says this is the most abnormal market he's ever seen. He admits interest rates are rising, but he doesn't entirely believe that's going to drive prices down...granted, he's a realtor.
A TON outsiders are moving into this area to escape blue states and it's a highly sought-after zone because of Franklin and the schools. It's elite. There's a reason the rich are buying up this place.
We've only ever rented and she will NOT agree to moving to another rental; she wants to buy.
Renting long term is financial suicide in places like Socal.
For once in my life? No need to be a dick about it, but thanks for the idea.
In that case, here's what I think.We don't own a house, so no Prop 13 anchor. We also have no family here. The only thing keeping us here is inertia, weather, and our kids being in a high school that they like. So as you can see, leaving California shouldn't be a huge hit to us.
Instead of move vs. stay issue, reframe it into buy vs. rent issue in which move vs. stay is a smaller variable. This is your starter home, right? You do not currently own in California, right? This bit is important. Because prop 13 and other whatnots which make it more difficult to leave if you already dropped an anchor here.
If you haven't dropped that proverbial anchor, and you expect that this house will be a substantial part of your wealth, then look for a market with biggest growth potential. California is not longer that IMHO. It's expensive in California, and it still goes up, but so does inflation. Many markets nationwide way outperform CA in terms of growth. I just learned that Nashville is one of them.
If you look to buy, and that house is a substantial part of your net worth, and your employment doesn't depend on you being in San Diego, then moving is totally justified. Financially, that is. With or without your vaccin...
porkchopexpress saysCalifornia has a mandate for 16y/o or older. They're just waiting on FDA approval for younger, which I believe will happen since they're all corrupt anyway. Besides, I can't wait around for when it happens and then have them subjected to it. I need lead time to up and move away.We've only ever rented and she will NOT agree to moving to another rental; she wants to buy.
As someone who has moved out of state before, that's is patently stupid, but don't say that. You don't know the area, and no matter how much research you do, you won't have enough info to buy before you move. Rent for at least a year so you can have an idea of where you want to buy, then buy.
On the last point, alot of people thought it wouldn't crash in '08. If economy doesn't crash this year, I'd be really surprised. Too many indicators that it will. I've been passively looking at El Centro and Yuma, and I actually see rents starting to stabilize, or go down. Have you considered Yuma as an alternative? 2.5 hours away, and Arizona has no shot mandate. Although neither does California. What's currently in place requires FDA approval, which seems really doubtful given what's transpired. There is ...
Save_Ukraine saysSame, but I wish I had bought in 2013 when we moved to SD, but we couldn't afford it back then. Then when prices jumped up, I thought I'd wait for the next dip, which never happened because the Fed went apeshit on free money. What can ya doRenting long term is financial suicide in places like Socal.
We've rented for 14 years in SoCal(mostly in houses). Have never paid as much as a mortgage would have cost us. Logan, is that you?
California has a mandate for 16y/o or older.
porkchopexpress saysI didn't mean to seem like it's an insurmountable problem, just a tough situation to be in. It'll get it figured out, but I wanted advice from other smart brains. Personally, I'd just rather get out of dodge instead of finagling the tyrannical system in CA. If it's not one thing, it'll be another. And who knows what CA will do when we have our next plandemic, which we all know is going to happen per Willy GaytesFor once in my life? No need to be a dick about it, but thanks for the idea.
well you act like its an insurmountable problem like metastasized cancer in your whole body....hell, this vax thing is hardly a speedbump...if you are uncomfortable asking around, get one of your buddies to do it..i'd find a POC nurse in a poorer clinic......one that could use another $1000 cash.....theres a lot of those
Same, but I wish I had bought in 2013 when we moved to SD, but we couldn't afford it back then.
Don't spend so much on housing you never have money for living.Totally agree. It has been my mantra. Keep my fixed costs low so I can flex with variable and have $ for kids' programs, vacations, high quality food, etc.
We looked in '11, but even then, couldn't go see a house, think about it, then make an offer. We won't be rushed into buying, so we passed
Have never paid as much as a mortgage would have cost us
komputodo saysporkchopexpress saysI didn't mean to seem like it's an insurmountable problem, just a tough situation to be in. It'll get it figured out, but I wanted advice from other smart brains. Personally, I'd just rather get out of dodge instead of finagling the tyrannical system in CA. If it's not one thing, it'll be another. And who knows what CA will do when we have our next plandemic, which we all know is going ...For once in my life? No need to be a dick about it, but thanks for the idea.
well you act like its an insurmountable problem like metastasized cancer in your whole body....hell, this vax thing is hardly a speedbump...if you are uncomfortable asking around, get one of your buddies to do it..i'd find a POC nurse in a poorer clinic......one that could use another $1000 cash.....theres a lot of those
WineHorror1 saysI feel very bad for you. Seriously, good luck.Thanks man. I think about the shit going down around the world and my problems are miniscule. I just have to keep things in perspective, and ensure that my sons getting the jab is an absolutely dealbreaker no matter which path we go down.
So, I'm stuck between stretching ourselves a bit to buy a $1.4M home in Nashville area,
RWSGFY saysFile for a religious exemption. I think it's the best path forward.I've thought about that. I did it for my new job and avoided the jab, but I'm not sure how CA schools would take an exemption, but it's definitely an option.
What about home-school? At least they'd still get to see their friends.We can't. My wife is going to school remotely and has zero desire to home school them.
With mandates in CA is it also enforced with private schools?I believe so. Newsom said all schools including private.
I think when you leave CA, you'll feel significantly less stressed and be blown away at how different the world is, vs how California perceives it lol.Thanks. With rising interest rates, the writing sure does seem to be on the wall.
Franklin TN is suppose to be a good area. I have friends out that way and they love it. Food in Nashville is outstanding too! Check out Chattanooga as well. Smaller city, cool area and probably a bit cheaper.
Buy now or catch a falling knife if it collapses? That's a tough one. We have been looking for a second home and have seen things flatine and have been seeing price cuts where we are looking in Florida. It's stupid expensive right now, and most of my friends are just sitting on the fence right now as they are beginning to refuse to participate.
For what it's worth, my bro in law is a realtor. He is trying to convince my parents to sell now, rent and then buy again when it gets cheaper. My parents are staying out but I wonder if even he sees a crash coming.
RC2006 saysWith mandates in CA is it also enforced with private schools?I believe so. Newsom said all schools including private.
porkchopexpress saysI know. Prices have absolutely soared because of sheer demand for that particular area. People are flooding TN, TX and FL because of the economic freedom and politics, and the rich are specifically hitting Franklin/Brentwood area because the schools are some of the best in the country.So, I'm stuck between stretching ourselves a bit to buy a $1.4M home in Nashville area,
Why is the alternative a 1.4M home in TN?
If that's what houses cost there now I wouldn't move.
Did I miss something here? No way local fundamentals support that type of price for an average house in Nashville.
I know. Prices have absolutely soared because of sheer demand for that particular area. People are flooding TN, TX and FL because of the economic freedom and politics, and the rich are specifically hitting Franklin/Brentwood area because the schools are some of the best in the country.
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We all decided that the Nashville area (i.e., Franklin/Brentwood) is where we'd all agree to move this Summer, but the house prices are INSANE. We've only ever rented and she will NOT agree to moving to another rental; she wants to buy. So, I'm stuck between stretching ourselves a bit to buy a $1.4M home in Nashville area, or staying in our current rental but making our boys get the vaccine to stay in school. My boys are already bummed about the thought of switching high schools, so they'd be willing to get the vaccine to stay in their current school. I feel like I'm alone in fighting against the easier path, which is clearly staying put in our current place until they finish school.
What would you guys do?
P.S. Given the no state income tax and the down payment I've saved up, I could theoretically make a $1.4M work but it's beyond what I'd prefer to pay. I'm also scared shitless that housing is going to crash, but what if it doesn't?