patrick.net

goofus says

In your example, we can see the I in Georgian transliterates as J (Iosef = Josef), leaving only the “g” of Jugashvilli (Iudas-shvilo = Judas son) unaccounted for.

Iosef and Isoeb both = Josef or Joseph.

Shilvo != shvilli





No sources in the first 5 on Brave have Stalin's first Christian name meaning anything but Joseph.


Here's Stalin's Father, Besarion. Himself possibly the grandson of an Ossetian Freedom Fighter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besarion_Jughashvili
goofus says

As for Stalin in seminary etc, in tsarist-controlled Georgia, one can imagine crypto-Jews encouraging religious bonafides. It certainly happened in Spain.

Spain is far away from Georgia, a totally different history.

The mother was widely known for being devout. Every biography of Stalin mentions "Keke's" (Katarina) religious fervor and her desire for Iosef to attend Seminary and become a Georgian Orthodox Priest, which she did get him to go for a year.

She even called Iosef "Soso" which is the Georgian Diminuative for "Joey"
https://rupertcolley.com/2015/02/05/ekaterina-dzhugashvili-stalins-mother/

AmericanKulak says

Shilvo != shvilli

It’s shvilo, which is pretty darned close to shvili and probably denotes a possessive (“son of” Judas rather than just “son”). I’m not saying his mom would call him Judas. His name was Josef Judas-son, “Iosef Jugashvilli.”

The Soviet Union went to great lengths to hide the Jewish ancestry of the inner Duma, which was predominantly Jewish the first 20 years. (Yes, I consider Solzhenitsyn an exhaustively researched source, and a brilliant man.) It would not surprise me that biographers would omit or be unaware of that detail about Stalin.

goofus says

So yes, much as one might hate to admit it, Bolshevism was heavily Jewish, as is its modern analogue, cultural Marxism, a product of Marcuse et al at the Frankfurt School. Aka, Critical Theory progenitors. When people say you cannot understand the present without the past, this is exactly what they mean.

Nobody denies that Bolshevism, financed by the literal Anglo-Saxon Engles without whom Marx would have had to have gotten a real job, has lots of Jewish fanbois.

That being said, the vast majority of Marxists are and always have been, Non-Jewish, from Beria to Stalin to Pol Pot to Mao Tse-Tung to Che O'Guevara to Bernadette Devlin.

The father of Culture Marxism isn't Marcuse - who added on to it further - but Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist.

goofus says

It’s shvilo, which is pretty darned close to shvili and probably denotes a possessive (“son of” Judas rather than just “son”).

The Soviet Union went to great lengths to hide the Jewish ancestry of the inner Duma, which was predominantly Jewish the first 20 years. (Yes, I consider Solzhenitsyn an exhaustively researched source, and a brilliant man.) It would not surprise me that biographers would omit or be unaware of that detail about Stalin.

Shvilli -ending: Compare former Georgian Presidents "Mikheil Saakashvili" or "Giorgi Margvelashvili" or Current Leader "Irakli Garibashvili".

And the "Inner Duma" is a myth. It's based on one Soviet government that lasted a few weeks. Lenin's government that ended up as the permanent structure had only one, maybe "one and a half", Jews out of almost 20.

The largest ethnicity represented in the Soviet Union disproportionate to size were Armenians, like Mikoyan of MiG Fame. The largest ethnicity in the Pre-WW2 NKVD was ... Latvian.

AmericanKulak says

goofus says

So yes, much as one might hate to admit it, Bolshevism was heavily Jewish, as is its modern analogue, cultural Marxism, a product of Marcuse et al at the Frankfurt School. Aka, Critical Theory progenitors. When people say you cannot understand the present without the past, this is exactly what they mean.

Nobody denies that Bolshevism, financed by the literal Anglo-Saxon Engles without whom Marx would have had to have gotten a real job, has lots of Jewish fanbois.

That being said, the vast majority of Marxists are and always have been, Non-Jewish, from Beria to Stalin to Pol Pot to Mao Tse-Tung to Che O'Guevara to Bernadette Devlin.

The father of Culture Marxism isn't Marcuse - who added on to it further - but Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist.

Kuhn, Loeb, and Schiff, the last of which pledged some $20 million to the cause, would like a word with you. They were the main financiers of the failed Decembrist revolution, and the Leninist coup. All Jewish, from New York, and not Anglo.

The fact is, as a minority’s minority, Jews will always be vastly outnumbered in how many cultural marxetteers they can bring to the party (and therefore, are not majorities — but this doesn’t prove more than how few Jews there are overall). They remain the originators, key orchestrators, and cheerleaders of cultural Marxism today.

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
Sever Plocker

Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.

All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."

Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.

Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.

פרסום ראשון: 12.21.06, 23:35
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

AmericanKulak says

Shvilli -ending: Compare former Georgian Presidents "Mikheil Saakashvili" or "Giorgi Margvelashvili" or Current Leader "Irakli Garibashvili".

And the "Inner Duma" is a myth. It's based on one Soviet government that lasted a few weeks. Lenin's government that ended up as the permanent structure had only one, maybe "one and a half", Jews out of almost 20.

The largest ethnicity represented in the Soviet Union disproportionate to size were Armenians, like Mikoyan of MiG Fame. The largest ethnicity in the Pre-WW2 NKVD was ... Latvian.

Right, Saakashvilli is son of Saaka, Margvelashvili is son of Margvela, and Jugashvilli is son of Jugas (Judas).

Sorry, the arm waving is too much. The Armenian and Latvian Soviet Duma. I’ll take the Nobel laureate and 200 Years Together for understanding Russian history, thanks.

AmericanKulak says

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
Sever Plocker

Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Chek (some text omitted to shorten quote...) not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.

פרסום ראשון: 12.21.06, 23:35
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

Thanks, encouraging to see this out there. I know Ron Unz has published something similar (on his website at least), though he may be persona non grata to the larger Jewish community.

goofus says

Thanks, encouraging to see this out there. I know Ron Unz has published something similar (on his website at least), though he may be persona non grata to the larger Jewish community.

All lies end up on the rubbish heap in time, it just doesn't take millennia for it to happen today. Some lies end up in the rubbish heap unchallenged and forgotten though, but today, I think they are dispatched.

Was JFK killed by a lone gunman? Isn't it interesting the CIA still has classified files on his murder to this day - I wonder why?

I'm seeing lies that happened in my lifetime being dismantled. You think I figured out Emad Salem was a FIB informant and told the FIB about the impending bombing of the WTC in 1996, or you think I heard it from somebody else, researched it, and was convinced? I remember when I heard that as a "conspiracy theory", and discovering it was true 20 years ago. Boy was I surprised.

The problem today is disinformation. You have to spend considerable time to find out that the rumor you heard isn't true. Alex Jones does this all the damned time. I genuinely dislike him, because I know he knows better but he'll report on a false story in a second, he doesn't care. He's got to report something every day, the better people report when they have something to report on. Jones has no problem spreading manure.

@goofus - I recommend Ryan Dawson - he's arrogant, can be over-bearing, and is bitter - but he does quite a bit of due diligence to be correct. https://www.ancreport.com/

podcasts: https://www.ancreport.com/category/podcast/
documentaries: https://www.ancreport.com/category/documentary/
news: https://www.ancreport.com/category/report/

I'll warn you, the documentaries are EXTREMELY dense. I find him to be reliable, but he hides sources at times but I've never known him to lie or knowingly spread bad information, but he DOES make mistakes. Who doesn't?

richwicks says

The problem today is disinformation. You have to spend considerable time to find out that the rumor you heard isn't true. Alex Jones does this all the damned time. I genuinely dislike him, because I know he knows better but he'll report on a false story in a second, he doesn't care. He's got to report something every day, the better people report when they have something to report on. Jones has no problem spreading manure.

Yes exactly. It needs to pass the “does this make sense to me?” test. Jones is all over the place (reminds me of Glenn Beck in that sense) — frenetic, not too smart, and not too discriminating in what he reports. Ultimately tars good ideas with the same brush as the hokum.

Thanks for the Dawson rec.

Seem US propaganda networks are constantly having to ask Ukraine military to cover up their swastikas according to a recent article.

NuttBoxer says

Seem US propaganda networks are constantly having to ask Ukraine military to cover up their swastikas according to a recent article.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

The New York Times has been forced to very, very belatedly deal with something which had long been obvious and known to many independent analysts and media outlets, but which has been carefully shielded from the mainstream masses in the West for obvious reasons.

The surprising Monday Times headline said that "Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History." This acknowledgement comes after literally years of primarily indy journalists and geopolitical commentators pointing out that yes indeed... Ukraine's military and paramilitary groups, especially those operating in the east since at least 2014, have a serious Nazi ideology problem. This has been exhaustively documented, again, going back years. But the report, which merely tries to downplay it as a "thorny issue" of Ukraine's "unique" "History" - suggests that the real problem for Western PR is fundamentally that it's being displayed so openly. Ukrainian troops are being asked to cover those Nazi symbols please!--as Matt Taibbi sarcastically quipped in commenting on the report.

I'm just thinking here, but US propaganda networks are against Russia right? So they would WANT to photograph Russian swastika's correct? So where are all those pictures? I mean if this is an Eastern Europe/old USSR problem as some here say, why hasn't this been a big talking point for why US should support the war? Last time I checked, most people are still anti-Nazi, or maybe not...

goofus says

Kuhn, Loeb, and Schiff, the last of which pledged some $20 million to the cause, would like a word with you. They were the main financiers of the failed Decembrist revolution, and the Leninist coup. All Jewish, from New York, and not Anglo.

Nothing to do with Marx himself.

As for the Revolution:
Lenin was literally put on a sealed diplomatic train by the Kaiser's High Command and given the money to start the first Communist revolution because the Liberal one was going too slowly to end the war.

It was the Kaiser who funded Lenin and got him and his comrades back into Russia to replace the Kerensky government.

https://providencemag.com/2018/03/devil-boxcar-unleashed-lenin/

The Kaiser created the USSR, then Hitler cooperated and traded massive amounts with the USSR, before going to war with the USSR.

Hitler's First priority was to invade Democratic Republics, first, from Poland to Czechoslovakia to Denmark. USSSR was LAST on his list.

Another big problem is Distraction and Entryism, it's part of Destabilization and Demoralization.

Questioning heroic events from the US past and putting them down is no different than what Left Wokies do by emphasizing Slavery (confined to a handful of owners that really existed in any numbers/time in only one section of the US) to be the fault of the whole country and it's founding ideal.

Remember folks, "But muh Socialism is the gud socialism" is also manipulation and distraction, it creates the enemy necessary to justify the budget and the power.

Finally, always ask, who is paying for this? How does a kid who parents declared bankruptcy just a few years ago have endless millions to keep a website going in Pennsylvania?

Actually, if you read Griffin, he dedicates a section to the overthrow of the Czar, stating it was specifically carried out by the banks, with the NY cartel definitely being involved.

The Kerensky Government was already in place, but it wasn't moving fast enough to end the war on the Eastern Front.
https://spartacus-educational.com/Lenin_Sealed_Train.htm

The Kaiser's High Command put Lenin and his cadre on the Sealed Diplomatic Train, something only a government can do.

Of course they got the money from banks, but the intel-diplo arrangement necessary to get him inside Russia was the Kaiser's Government

General Erich Ludendorff who later admitted his involvement in his autobiography, My War Memories, 1914-1918 (1920) that he told senior officials: "Our government, in sending Lenin to Russia, took upon itself a tremendous responsibility. From a military point of view his journey was justified, for it was imperative that Russia should fall."

General Max Hoffmann, chief of the German General Staff on the Eastern Front commented: "We naturally tried, by means of propaganda, to increase the disintegration that the Russian Revolution had introduced into the Army. Some man at home who had connections with the Russian revolutionaries exiled in Switzerland came upon the idea of employing some of them in order to hasten the undermining and poisoning of the morale of the Russian Army."

AmericanKulak says

Nothing to do with Marx himself.

As for the Revolution:
Lenin was literally put on a sealed diplomatic train by the Kaiser's High Command and given the money to start the first Communist revolution because the Liberal one was going too slowly to end the war.

It was the Kaiser who funded Lenin and got him and his comrades back into Russia to replace the Kerensky government.

https://providencemag.com/2018/03/devil-boxcar-unleashed-lenin/

The Kaiser created the USSR, then Hitler cooperated and traded massive amounts with the USSR, before going to war with the USSR.

Hitler's First priority was to invade Democratic Republics, first, from Poland to Czechoslovakia to Denmark. USSSR was LAST on his list.

All this wouldn't be possible if Russia didn't stupidly walk into the war and managed to lose to a loser. They seem to be incapable of realistic assesment of their own capabilitues (or lack of thereof). And they did it mere decade after the spectacular ass-wooping by Japan which almost toppled the regime, but they somehow fucking forgot that lesson. Low IQ is a curse.

They woul've lost to Hitler too if US didn't step in with our industrial might and bail them out. Still managed to waste 40 million of their own
people (and, astonishingly, they are proud of the fact).

RWSGFY says

All this wouldn't be possible if Russia didn't stupidly walk into the war and managed to lose to a loser.

We're talking WW1, not WW2.

The Czar honored his alliance with France as far as I remember.

Too bad the Kerensky Government didn't succeed, there would have been no WW2.

WW1 was the greatest disaster to befall Western Civ.

During and the end of it:

Universal Suffrage for Women, which created the Welfare State and the breakdown of the Family

The expansion of the Romantic Left reaction to Liberalism, which is has now made a synthesis with Corporate Oligarchy and Technocrat Bureaocracy, in the Cultural Marxism phase.

Mass immigration when the Third World largely failed to handle independence.

AmericanKulak says

RWSGFY says

All this wouldn't be possible if Russia didn't stupidly walk into the war and managed to lose to a loser.

We're talking WW1, not WW2.

Obviously. Which part of my statement above is incorrect? They lost to Zee Germanz who in turn lost to Antanta. And they didn't run out of warm bodies to throw into the fire of war but of various supplies, including even fooking bread, causing hunger riots in the capital, which is mighty ironic if you think about it.

RWSGFY says

Obviously. Which part of my statement above is incorrect? They lost to Zee Germanz who in turn lost to Antanta. And they didn't run out of warm bodies to throw into the fire of war but of various supplies, including even fooking bread, causing hunger riots in the capital, which is mighty ironic if you think about it.

Typical Russian neglect of logistics.

RWSGFY says

All this wouldn't be possible if Russia didn't stupidly walk into the war and managed to lose to a loser.

Actually, none of it would have been possible without propaganda. It's the only way communism has ever survived. It's first and most important weapon. Animal Farm is a great short take.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/conspiracy-facts-thursday-june-8?publication_id=463409&post_id=126879498&isFreemail=true

It’s getting hard to keep up with them all. A second, now-confirmed conspiracy fact appeared in the New York Times Monday, in a wild article headlined “Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History.”

Uh-oh!

Now, I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking about how Joe Biden laughed like a braying donkey when a reporter questioned Ukrainian Nazis, and about how the Times itself has repeatedly promised you that there are no Nazis in Ukraine, zip, zero, not even one, because Putin. Putin is the real Nazi, if anybody is, they said. Stop spreading misinformation, they said.

Listen. This story isn’t about Ukrainian Nazis, not really, nor about the inconvenient fact Putin has apparently been telling the truth since Day Zero. (Don’t fret about that, scum like Putin don’t deserve apologies.) No. This story is about how the fact that Ukrainians love Nazis might somehow help the Russians. And that’s all it is about.

The sub-headline told the Times’ readers how they should interpret this potentially-troubling news:




Gosh. It’s so aggravating! The Ukrainians aren’t fitting the Times’ carefully-crafted noble-war narrative! The Times’ reporter struggled as best he could to find a way to shade the news. Using terms like “thorny,” “unfortunate,” and “bad optics,” the paper gently and carefully conceded that a lot of Ukrainian soldiers’ uniforms do, in fact, proudly sport Nazi swastikas and other appalling Third Reich imagery.

But see, they’re not “real” Nazis, no. Here’s how the Times explained it:

The iconography of these groups, including a skull-and-crossbones patch worn by concentration camp guards and a symbol known as the Black Sun, now appears with some regularity on the uniforms of soldiers fighting on the front line, including soldiers who say the imagery symbolizes Ukrainian sovereignty and pride, not Nazism.
The “Black Sun” symbol is also known as a Sonnenrad. It first popped up in the castle of occultist Heinrich Himmler, the infamous Nazi general and SS leader. According to the Times, these days the Black Sun is popular among neo-Nazis and white supremacists … and Ukrainians.

But… it’s just Pride! Not fun leather festival rainbow pride, silly. The boot-in-your-face, Zyklon-B shower, skinheaded Neo-Nazi kind. The reporter didn’t even TRY to connect the roots of “Ukrainian sovereignty and pride” to the concentration camp guard logos and occult Black Sun icons. They just said it, ipse dixit, pouring the hyper-processed lie into the Times’ jingoistic dog food bowl, for their credulous readers to lap up.

Slurp, slurp. ...

Possibly the most disgraceful part of the story was when the Times admitted that news rooms are regrettably being forced, with public relations guns held to their temples, to often delete or clean up photos of Ukrainian soldiers and allied militants. “The photographs, and their deletions, highlight the Ukrainian military’s complicated relationship with Nazi imagery, a relationship forged under both Soviet and German occupation during World War II,” the article explained.

Faking photos? I mean, what are they SUPPOSED to do? It’s very, very complicated. ...




When there’s a proxy war on, the captured media becomes more … flexible. And understanding. Not to mention open-minded. The Times generously found that explicit Ukrainian Nazi imagery isn’t automatically hate speech, not necessarily, not really, not like when a Republican stage is loosely shaped like a swastika when you look at it from the right angle:

In the American South, some have insisted that today, the Confederate flag symbolizes pride, not its history of racism and secession. The swastika was an important Hindu symbol before it was co-opted by the Nazis… the symbols [have] meanings … unique to Ukraine and should be interpreted by how Ukrainians view[] them, not by how they [have] been used elsewhere.
A Hindu symbol! They’re probably Hindus!

Um, but what about all that other stuff? Is the Death’s Head logo Hindu, too? What about the Black Sun?

As you can tell, I’m having a great time sarcastically pointing out the Times’ double-, triple-, or quadruple-standards. But it’s really worse than that. The Times itself castigated the Ukrainian military as being packed with Nazis only a few years ago, as recently as 2019. One wonders whether the average Times reader has an effective attention span longer than a cocker spaniel.

Patrick says

As you can tell, I’m having a great time sarcastically pointing out the Times’ double-, triple-, or quadruple-standards.

They have no standards. They are openly a propaganda platform. Nobody actually reads the NY Times, it's kept alive through government funds of some sort to product for propaganda.

The are a "respected news source", so whatever bullshit they say at this time in considered to be a gold standard. They are referenced but not read. They lost their credibility with Judith Miller, and anybody that paid attention to that sociopathic cunt abandoned the paper after that, since she was clearly a propagandist. It's been over 15 years. Advertising is not keeping them alive.

Maybe I should buy a paper and see who their supposed advertisers are. I bet it's all Offense Contractors.

What's happening with the Offensive? I heard it began a short time ago but haven't heard any news.

Then again, this war is damned short of coverage.

Funny how in 1991 back when there were BBSs with dialup and usage in the Western World in the low single digits, we sure had a shitton of info. Knew within an hour of Saddam's T-64s crossing into Saudi Arabia or a bridge near Baghdad got bombed with footage from the hotel.

Yet now with smartphones in everybody's hands, even the trash collector on a mule in the Mato Grasso had one, we don't know shit about battles.

AmericanKulak says

Funny how in 1991 back when there were BBSs with dialup and usage in the Western World in the low single digits, we sure had a shitton of info. Knew within an hour of Saddam's T-64s crossing into Saudi Arabia or a bridge near Baghdad got bombed with footage from the hotel.

In TEXT perhaps. I remember those times. You didn't have video or even audio. A single picture took MINUTES to download, at 56K baud, and that was state of the art in 1991.

You had people reporting, at BEST, and BBSes were mostly local. We weren't dialing across the country much less across continents.

Video was nascent, even on a campus network. You'd get 1-10 seconds of a grainy video, and all of it was pornography.

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

Funny how in 1991 back when there were BBSs with dialup and usage in the Western World in the low single digits, we sure had a shitton of info. Knew within an hour of Saddam's T-64s crossing into Saudi Arabia or a bridge near Baghdad got bombed with footage from the hotel.

In TEXT perhaps. I remember those times. You didn't have video or even audio.

You had people reporting, at BEST, and BBSes were mostly local. We weren't dialing across the country much less across continents.

Exactly my point. And only a teeny fraction of households - and those almost wholly confined to the Western World - were on BBS.

Internet cafes didn't even exist yet.

Yet Christiane Armanpour was sending satellite footage from Baghdad, while reporters in Saudi Arabia were reporting border fients by Iraq within minutes.

However, with Ukr-Rus we have jack shit, despite everybody and their Babushka having a smartphone with internet access and camera/mic built in.

AmericanKulak says

However, with Ukr-Rus we have jack shit, despite everybody and their Babushka having a smartphone with internet access and camera/mic built in.

You better recognize we don't have a free internet.

Free communication isn't allowed on Google, Youtube, Facebook, or Twitter. You can see anything on the sites you don't know about. BitChute, Odysee, Rumble, Brighteon, etc. But you can't even trust what you see. Not only are there deepfakes, there's just lies as well.


original link


Our media will just blatantly lie to the public, and it's been doing this for at least 20 years, if not my entire lifetime.

WW2 is a bloodbath quite aside from the Jews.

Ukrainian Auxillaries also had a lovely time burning whole Polish and other groups (not just Jews) in the Ukraine, with the occupants locked inside a church or the largest building in the village, man or woman, young or old, senior or child. Keep in mind the Poles had been overlords of Ukraine historically for long periods, Lemberg/L'vov/Lviv was mostly a Polish city historically. The Volynia massacres:
https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/03/14/zelensky-has-promised-poland-exhumations-of-ww2-massacre-victims-in-ukraine-says-polish-pm/

Ukraine is very strange, it was both the birthplace of Pan-Slavism and yet also the birthplace of rabid, "We're actually long lost pure Nordic-Aryan Vikings without a drop of dirty Slawien untermensch blood" Bandera ideology as well, all within a century.

Mass deaths also happened in Yugoslavia, between Ustache and Muslims working for the Reich, and Serbs on a massive level. At least 40,000 Serbs died in work & death camps at Jasenovic and elsewhere, and the operators were mostly NOT Germans, but Croats. It was a very handson experience, with most deaths directly done by "Srbosjek", or Serb Killer, a wrist-knife.

If we don't stop Woke Fascism, we're going to have fun right here at home, one way or another.

AmericanKulak says

Keep in mind the Poles had been overlords of Ukraine historically for long periods, Lemberg/L'vov/Lviv was mostly a Polish city historically.

And right after WWII a large chick of Poland was cut off and added to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Belarus took a chunk as well.

It's always annoying when NYT shifts from Satanic Inversion lying propaganda, or plain lies, to mitigation gaslighting propaganda. They also use childish language, like they are writing for eight year olds.

Ceffer says

It's always annoying when NYT shifts from Satanic Inversion lying propaganda, or plain lies, to mitigation gaslighting propaganda. They also use childish language, like they are writing for eight year olds.

They keep switching because their base is gone. That's not a bad thing. They are trying to find a new base.

I read the NY Times a few times in the late 1990's and early 2000's. I found it very verbose with very little actual information in it. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as Rolling Stone, but every fucking paragraph has to have at least one line of information for me to read it, and the NY Times didn't follow that rule even then. Every story was padded out.

I used to think the journalists were just stupid, or that they believed their audience was stupid so they wrote lightly so as not to overwhelm them - NOPE - it's just to make people waste their time looking for anything in 2000 words that could have been written trivially in 200.

"US overthrows Ukrainian government. Victoria Nuland in an intercepted phone call with Geoffrey Pyatt posted on Feb 4, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM%2C has conversation in which Nuland decides Arseniy Yatseniuk will be next Prime Minster of Ukraine, 18 days before Viktor Yanukovych fless office on Feb 22, 2014. Press concentrates on the fact that she used vulgarity, ignores US interference in Ukrainian government."

Imagine if news was like that? Factually correct and straight to the point, but instead you gave 4 pages of bullshit to find it, if you get it at all.

richwicks says

goofus - I recommend Ryan Dawson - he's arrogant, can be over-bearing, and is bitter - but he does quite a bit of due diligence to be correct. https://www.ancreport.com/

podcasts: https://www.ancreport.com/category/podcast/
documentaries: https://www.ancreport.com/category/documentary/
news: https://www.ancreport.com/category/report/

I'll warn you, the documentaries are EXTREMELY dense. I find him to be reliable, but he hides sources at times but I've never known him to lie or knowingly spread bad information, but he DOES make mistakes. Who doesn't?

+1

I find Dawson at least as credible as Unz, and he seems to be getting some pretty good traction on the alterweb.

Prigozhin doesn't believe in Ukrainian Nazi being real and dangerous:

By Andrew Osborn

LONDON (Reuters) – Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Friday that the official Kremlin-backed version of why Moscow invaded Ukraine was based on lies concocted by his perennial adversary – the army’s top brass.

Prigozhin has for months been accusing Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Russia’s top general, Valery Gerasimov, of rank incompetence, but on Friday he for the first time rejected Russia’s core justifications for invading Ukraine on Feb. 24 last year in what it calls a “special military operation”.

“… the Defence Ministry is trying to deceive society and the president and tell us a story about how there was crazy aggression from Ukraine and that they were planning to attack us with the whole of NATO,” Prigozhin said in a video clip released on Telegram by his press service, calling the official version “a beautiful story”.

“The special operation was started for different reasons,” he said. “The war was needed … so that Shoigu could become a marshal … so that he could get a second ‘Hero’ [of Russia] medal. The war wasn’t needed to demilitarise or denazify Ukraine.”

He also said the war had been needed to acquire “material assets” to divide among the ruling elite.

Prigozhin portrays his Wagner private militia, which spearheaded the capture of the city of Bakhmut last month, as Russia’s most effective fighting force, and has enjoyed unusual freedom to publicly criticise Moscow, albeit not President Vladimir Putin, on whose support he ultimately depends.

Yet his latest assertion runs directly counter to the rationale for the war espoused by Putin, who said when sending his armed forces into Ukraine that it was to demilitarise and denazify a country that posed a threat to Russia.

The Kremlin leader casts the conflict as an existential struggle against a Western alliance that wants to use Ukraine as a platform to destroy Russia.

There was no immediate response from the Defence Ministry, which has ignored previous complaints from Prigozhin, in public at least. Nor was there any immediate reaction from the Kremlin, which has declined in the past to comment on Prigozhin’s outbursts.

(Reporting by Andrew Osborn; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

Benjamin Fulford says that Prigozhin is Khazarian Mafia controlled opposition. His loyalty is to make the stack of body organ donating dead Slavs higher with the trafficking sale of their women and children into slavery on the other side. As an oracle of truth, he is more like the dirty fork that the Russians use, then clean, and then pass on for some other task. Russia allowed a mafia to clean out Bakhmut for concessions, a conservative use of military assets. Prigozhin's blustering is baloney that he gets away with for the duration.

The holding back of ammunition by Russia was a recoiling from the rampant slaughters of his 'Dirty Dozen' troops that shocked even his employers.

Yaroslav Hunka is a veteran of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, a Nazi Germany military formation. He is an ethnic Ukrainian, born in Urman, which was in Poland at that time, and volunteered for SS Galizien in 1943. Canada's House Speaker, Anthony Rota, praised Hunka as a "hero" during a visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. However, several Jewish groups responded with outrage, saying that Hunka had served in a Nazi unit known as the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, which fought alongside Germany during World War II and declared allegiance to Adolf Hitler.

https://www.racket.news/p/justin-trudeaus-nazi-hot-take-flexibility?publication_id=1042&post_id=137394071&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz

Let me get this straight:

A year and a half ago, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced a Jewish member of parliament named Melissa Lantsman for standing with “people who wave swastikas.” Lantsman had criticized Trudeau for fanning “the flames of an unjustified national emergency” in response to the “Freedom Convoy” trucker protests. The “swastikas” Trudeau referenced were, as even Snopes conceded, virtually all “pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions,” comme ça:




By saying Lantsman stood with “people who wave swastikas,” in other words, Trudeau really meant she was standing with “people who called me a Nazi.” He declined to apologize, which of course is his prerogative.

This week, both Trudeau and House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota are under fire after Rota invited, and Trudeau applauded, a 98-year-old former soldier from the 14th Waffen-SS Grenadier Division named Yaroslav Hunka to attend an address by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Rota praised Hunka as a “Canadian hero” from his time fighting the Soviets in World War II when, not that it matters, they were allies to the United States and Canada. Leaving the elderly Hunka out of this for the moment, these politicians could easily have turned up the man’s blogs about joining Hitler’s army, making the applause scene at least approach the max on the cringe scale:




... To recap: Trudeau in a clear act of official disinformation smeared thousands of Canadian protesters as Nazis last year with context-twisting descriptions of a few decidedly un-representative photos. Now, after the Speaker of the House of Commons invited an ex-Nazi to parliament in a planned political act that had to be somewhat representative of the thinking of Trudeau’s Liberal government, the Prime Minister is complaining about “Russian disinformation,” as if that were to blame for this optics Hindenburg. As the CBC put it:

"Trudeau warned that this event may fuel Russian propaganda. Russian President Vladimir Putin has claimed the Ukraine conflict is about rooting out Nazis."

Dude, Vladimir Putin didn’t invite a Nazi to parliament, your government did. Do Davosketeers like Trudeau have anything inside, like shame or their own thoughts, or are they just manicured readers of talking points? Sheesh. It’s almost funny, how repugnant these people are.