The Nazis in Ukraine are Real
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Patrick
2022 Mar 13, 10:30am
Patrick
2022 Mar 13, 10:30am
https://nitter.net/ggreenwald/status/1502754980314419210?source=patrick.net#m
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
20h
Everyone in the US with a MAGA hat is deemed a "literal Nazi" who you're supposed to punch and/or imprison, but liberals see actual, real-life Nazis in Ukraine and either swoon with admiration, arm them, or call you a Kremlin agent for wondering if this might work out poorly.
Mar 12, 2022 · 9:14 PM UTC
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 13, 10:52am
It must suck to be a Nazi in Ukraine. They are fighting tooth and nail, blood and guts, for their Jewish president. Imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance.
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FarmersWon
2022 Mar 13, 11:15am
FarmersWon
2022 Mar 13, 11:15am
I am surprised that astute commentators like @patrick not see sabotage by both Putin and NATO to steal the rights of people by spreading hatred.
Wars fought by elites are anti people .
Only Good wars are when elites are hanged for their crimes.
Wars fought by elites are anti people .
Only Good wars are when elites are hanged for their crimes.
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Patrick
2022 Mar 13, 12:56pm
Patrick
2022 Mar 13, 12:56pm
@FarmersWon
I'm not a Putin fan. I would not want to live under his rule in Russia.
But he does seem to be the enemy of our WEF/globalist enemies.
I'm not a Putin fan. I would not want to live under his rule in Russia.
But he does seem to be the enemy of our WEF/globalist enemies.
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Tenpoundbass
2022 Mar 13, 1:59pm
Tenpoundbass
2022 Mar 13, 1:59pm
In America Journalist stand behind Ukraine, In Ukraine the Ukraine army stands behind them!
"The Ukrainian authorities said he was killed in a suburb that has been the site of intense shelling by Russian forces in recent days, but the details of his death were not immediately clear, the Times added."
OK, so I do hope that the Authorities that Be, do realize, that if the aggressor is shelling an urban target. Then they wont physically be there to shoot anyone in the back of the neck or head(as conflicting reports have it.)
Also for a day it has been reported that he was a NTY reporter, now they say he's not working for them, but the State Department as a spy.
Shot in neck
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/13/reports-american-filmmaker-brent-renaud-killed-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net
Shot in back of head
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/breaking-exclusive-new-york-times-denies-journalist-killed-ukraine-working-times-likely-us-intel-collector/?source=patrick.net
"The Ukrainian authorities said he was killed in a suburb that has been the site of intense shelling by Russian forces in recent days, but the details of his death were not immediately clear, the Times added."
OK, so I do hope that the Authorities that Be, do realize, that if the aggressor is shelling an urban target. Then they wont physically be there to shoot anyone in the back of the neck or head(as conflicting reports have it.)
Also for a day it has been reported that he was a NTY reporter, now they say he's not working for them, but the State Department as a spy.
Shot in neck
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/13/reports-american-filmmaker-brent-renaud-killed-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net
Shot in back of head
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/breaking-exclusive-new-york-times-denies-journalist-killed-ukraine-working-times-likely-us-intel-collector/?source=patrick.net
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 13, 2:52pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 13, 2:52pm
mostly reader says
Not even the German Nazi's exclusively targeted the Jews. Only Zionists have pushed that viewpoint. The common theme between German Nazi's and all Nazi's who have followed is racism against anyone not of their ethnicity. In Ukraine, given their past with Russia, it makes sense that this would be directed primarily at Russians. So if you wanted to point to Zelensky, the fact that he was raised to speak Russian might be more of a contention point that his Jewish ancestry.
But beyond that, major propaganda outlets have all unknowingly featured Nazi Ukraine troops in multiple photos. There are documents even from the US government asking to condemn these extremist Ukrainian groups as terrorists. But you ignore all of that and justify your Nazi support because the Ukrainian president has Jewish blood. Your denial is taking on a hint of desperation.
It must suck to be a Nazi in Ukraine. They are fighting tooth and nail, blood and guts, for their Jewish president. Imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance.
Not even the German Nazi's exclusively targeted the Jews. Only Zionists have pushed that viewpoint. The common theme between German Nazi's and all Nazi's who have followed is racism against anyone not of their ethnicity. In Ukraine, given their past with Russia, it makes sense that this would be directed primarily at Russians. So if you wanted to point to Zelensky, the fact that he was raised to speak Russian might be more of a contention point that his Jewish ancestry.
But beyond that, major propaganda outlets have all unknowingly featured Nazi Ukraine troops in multiple photos. There are documents even from the US government asking to condemn these extremist Ukrainian groups as terrorists. But you ignore all of that and justify your Nazi support because the Ukrainian president has Jewish blood. Your denial is taking on a hint of desperation.
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 13, 3:14pm
Have to swap your points for coherency.
NuttBoxer says
NuttBoxer says
Given that "Final Solution" planned by Nazi Germany is not even up for discussion, I think that you just called German Nazis Zionists.
NuttBoxer says
So if you wanted to point to Zelensky, the fact that he was raised to speak Russian might be more of a contention point that his Jewish ancestry.It's both. Both points are contention points, and both make it clear that "Ukrainian Nazis" are a boogieman created by Russian propaganda. I said it already, but apparently not everyone reads everything: it's not that they don't exist. They do indeed. It's that they exist in numbers proportional to those in Russia. Or possibly in US for that matter. Just looking at Zelensky should be enough to put this to rest.
NuttBoxer says
Not even the German Nazi's exclusively targeted the Jews. Only Zionists have pushed that viewpoint. The common theme between German Nazi's and all Nazi's who have followed is racism against anyone not of their ethnicity.
Given that "Final Solution" planned by Nazi Germany is not even up for discussion, I think that you just called German Nazis Zionists.
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FarmersWon
2022 Mar 13, 6:47pm
FarmersWon
2022 Mar 13, 6:47pm
Patrick says
@patrick
Both Putin and NATO don't care about commoner lives is very clear.
Between the two evils, Putin is still bigger one based on How he setup secret police and oligarchs to oppress people.
I remember that there were millions of people marching against war criminal Bush, But no one is allowed to do so in Russia.
There is no moral equivalence here.
In isolation, NATO is quite evil too.
@FarmersWon
I'm not a Putin fan. I would not want to live under his rule in Russia.
But he does seem to be the enemy of our WEF/globalist enemies.
@patrick
Both Putin and NATO don't care about commoner lives is very clear.
Between the two evils, Putin is still bigger one based on How he setup secret police and oligarchs to oppress people.
I remember that there were millions of people marching against war criminal Bush, But no one is allowed to do so in Russia.
There is no moral equivalence here.
In isolation, NATO is quite evil too.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 13, 7:04pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 13, 7:04pm
mostly reader says
I heard Russia was behind the rigged 2016 elections, and had all kinds of connections with Trump. Before that they were the reason we needed all that defense spending in order to win the Cold War. Before that they were everywhere destroying our country and only Joe McCarthy could save us. And now they're why our economy sucks. I would bet you've even recently come to the realization they're to blame for something in your own life. Isn't it great when you realize all the worlds problems can be attributed to the boogyman.
Covidites got nothing on you.
"Ukrainian Nazis" are a boogieman created by Russian propaganda.
I heard Russia was behind the rigged 2016 elections, and had all kinds of connections with Trump. Before that they were the reason we needed all that defense spending in order to win the Cold War. Before that they were everywhere destroying our country and only Joe McCarthy could save us. And now they're why our economy sucks. I would bet you've even recently come to the realization they're to blame for something in your own life. Isn't it great when you realize all the worlds problems can be attributed to the boogyman.
Covidites got nothing on you.
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 13, 8:27pm
NuttBoxer says
I would bet you've even recently come to the realization they're to blame for something in your own life.I'd love to take that bet. For lotz and lotz of moneyz. Can you think of a practical way to make it happen?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 14, 12:03am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Mar 14, 12:03am
mostly reader says
Why are you here? If you want to just flame, and pick trivial pieces to draw people into pointless arguments, there's so many bigger forums you can do that on. Ones where you'll get all the shouting matches you can handle, and then some. What you're doing here just wastes time. Maybe we're a bit nicer here, so it's safer for you?
I'd love to take that bet. For lotz and lotz of moneyz. Can you think of a practical way to make it happen?
Why are you here? If you want to just flame, and pick trivial pieces to draw people into pointless arguments, there's so many bigger forums you can do that on. Ones where you'll get all the shouting matches you can handle, and then some. What you're doing here just wastes time. Maybe we're a bit nicer here, so it's safer for you?
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 14, 9:01am
NuttBoxer says
To your question. There are indeed plenty of nice folks here, to which I reciprocate. Or make every attempt to. Keep in mind though: what's happening now is pure evil. As of 02/23 it got hard to be nice to those who actively and aggressively promote it.
Maybe we're a bit nicer here, so it's safer for you?Please. Not the "we". Not this "seeking group cover" thing.
To your question. There are indeed plenty of nice folks here, to which I reciprocate. Or make every attempt to. Keep in mind though: what's happening now is pure evil. As of 02/23 it got hard to be nice to those who actively and aggressively promote it.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 14, 9:42am
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 14, 9:42am
mostly reader says
Didn't the COVID mandates begin in April, 2020? Two weeks to stop the spread turned into two years of useless masks, lockdowns that crushed the economy, and waves of suicide, drug abuse, and mental illness resultant from that?
Geopolitical reality is what it is. JFK risked full nuclear war to violated the sovereignity of an Independent Country to host what weapons from which Pole of the Cold War it wanted to. Nothing different happening in Ukraine.
To your question. There are indeed plenty of nice folks here, to which I reciprocate. Or make every attempt to. Keep in mind though: what's happening now is pure evil. As of 02/23 it got hard to be nice to those who actively and aggressively promote it.
Didn't the COVID mandates begin in April, 2020? Two weeks to stop the spread turned into two years of useless masks, lockdowns that crushed the economy, and waves of suicide, drug abuse, and mental illness resultant from that?
Geopolitical reality is what it is. JFK risked full nuclear war to violated the sovereignity of an Independent Country to host what weapons from which Pole of the Cold War it wanted to. Nothing different happening in Ukraine.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:34am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:34am
"Lots of footage of Nazi salutes"? Like it's hard to hire some crisis actors to pose on camera?
Same people who are certain that all the blown-up tanks and ruined apartment buildings is "CGI" are lapping up not even "footage", but empty assertions about "lots of footage" being available. Jeezus!
How about some real proof of real Nazi atrocities? It's been 8 years. Where the fuck the footage of "genocide"? Where the fuck are "mass graves", "lamp shades", "gas chambers"? How the fuck Israel is quiet if Joos are being eradicated in Ukraine? Mossad doesn't know?
Patnet has collectively lost its mind and is fucking ready to buy bridges. PM me if you want one.
Same people who are certain that all the blown-up tanks and ruined apartment buildings is "CGI" are lapping up not even "footage", but empty assertions about "lots of footage" being available. Jeezus!
How about some real proof of real Nazi atrocities? It's been 8 years. Where the fuck the footage of "genocide"? Where the fuck are "mass graves", "lamp shades", "gas chambers"? How the fuck Israel is quiet if Joos are being eradicated in Ukraine? Mossad doesn't know?
Patnet has collectively lost its mind and is fucking ready to buy bridges. PM me if you want one.
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stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 11:47am
stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 11:47am
Patnet has been accused of lots of things wrt the "housing boom," "Covid pandemic," "election fraud," etc. If people think that Patnet is about uncritically embracing the establishment narrative, then they are either:
a) very new here
b) an internet troll
c) sadly suffering from mental decline/alzheimers/long covid
d) incapable of using the Socratic method or logical argument
e) never really grew up
a) very new here
b) an internet troll
c) sadly suffering from mental decline/alzheimers/long covid
d) incapable of using the Socratic method or logical argument
e) never really grew up
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Ceffer
2022 Mar 14, 11:53am
Ceffer
2022 Mar 14, 11:53am
Clue: Don't waste your precious time and mental resources arguing or trying to convince:
1. Oppositional Defiants, whose glory comes from frustrating all rational discourse merely to draw attention to an aberrant point of view that they change arbitrarily.
2. "My team rah rahs". Gaslighters who defend 'their team' either through personal economics or affiliations, no matter how deceptive, dastardly, or wrong their team is.
3. Agitprop repeating stations: Individuals of louche interpersonal situational ethics who repeat fake news because they think they have a vested interest in the outcome i.e. useful idiots waiting for the bullet.
1. Oppositional Defiants, whose glory comes from frustrating all rational discourse merely to draw attention to an aberrant point of view that they change arbitrarily.
2. "My team rah rahs". Gaslighters who defend 'their team' either through personal economics or affiliations, no matter how deceptive, dastardly, or wrong their team is.
3. Agitprop repeating stations: Individuals of louche interpersonal situational ethics who repeat fake news because they think they have a vested interest in the outcome i.e. useful idiots waiting for the bullet.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:56am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:56am
stereotomy says
Patnet is uncritically embrasing Russian establishment narrative. This very thread is a perfect example. Not a single previosly sceptical cunt asked a simple quiestion about proof of any supposed Nazi atrocities in Ukraine. They just lapping up whatever (constantly changing) reason for war is being offered by Putin/Lavrov/Zaharova et alia. "They were about to attack us!", ... no "There are Nazi genocide going on!", ... no "There are bioWEAPONS labs there!".... None of that has been proven, everything about all these occusations flies in the face of common sense, but it doesn't matter to our very sceptical peanut gallery.
Patnet has been accused of lots of things wrt the "housing boom," "Covid pandemic," "election fraud," etc. If people think that Patnet is about uncritically embracing the establishment narrative, then they are either:
a) very new here
b) an internet troll
c) sadly suffering from mental decline/alzheimers/long covid
d) incapable of using the Socratic method or logical argument
e) never really grew up
Patnet is uncritically embrasing Russian establishment narrative. This very thread is a perfect example. Not a single previosly sceptical cunt asked a simple quiestion about proof of any supposed Nazi atrocities in Ukraine. They just lapping up whatever (constantly changing) reason for war is being offered by Putin/Lavrov/Zaharova et alia. "They were about to attack us!", ... no "There are Nazi genocide going on!", ... no "There are bioWEAPONS labs there!".... None of that has been proven, everything about all these occusations flies in the face of common sense, but it doesn't matter to our very sceptical peanut gallery.
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stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 11:58am
stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 11:58am
Eric Holder says
You have not yet selected the proper response from the choices enumerated.
stereotomy saysPatnet has been accused of lots of things wrt the "housing boom," "Covid pandemic," "election fraud," etc. If people think that Patnet is about uncritically embracing the establishment narrative, then they are either:
a) very new here
b) an internet troll
c) sadly suffering from mental decline/alzheimers/long covid
d) incapable of using the Socratic method or logical argument
e) never really grew up
Patnet is uncritically embrasing Russian establishment narrative. This very thread is a perfect example. Not a single previosly sceptical cunt asked a simple quiestion about proof of any supposed Nazi atrocities in Ukraine. They just lapping up whatever (constantly changing) reason for war is being offered by Putin/Lavrov/Zaharova et alia. "They were about to attack us!", ... no "There are Nazi genocide going on!", ... no "There are bioWEAPONS labs there!".... None ...
You have not yet selected the proper response from the choices enumerated.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:59am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 14, 11:59am
stereotomy says
I'm not playing childish games, pal.
You have not yet selected the proper response from the choices enumerated.
I'm not playing childish games, pal.
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stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 12:32pm
stereotomy
2022 Mar 14, 12:32pm
I guess your answer, by way of psychological projection, is (E).
I merely restated the patently (pardon the pun) obvious purpose of Patrick's blog since the beginning. If you're not comfortable with that, or you think it's unfair, then that's a bone best picked with @Patrick.
I take a stand now for civil, logical discourse, at least here, because I know that it is respected.
The games you are playing are best won when playing with children. Perhaps more mature games would be more fruitful?
I merely restated the patently (pardon the pun) obvious purpose of Patrick's blog since the beginning. If you're not comfortable with that, or you think it's unfair, then that's a bone best picked with @Patrick.
I take a stand now for civil, logical discourse, at least here, because I know that it is respected.
The games you are playing are best won when playing with children. Perhaps more mature games would be more fruitful?
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Shaman
2022 Mar 14, 1:06pm
Shaman
2022 Mar 14, 1:06pm
Eric Holder says
Strong words for someone advocating nuclear war with Russia as a policy point.
I can’t decide if this is naive, stupid, or hopelessly ignorant? Naive would be thinking we can continue provoking Russia forever without major consequences. Stupid would be thinking a nuclear war wouldn’t be that bad. It would be apocalyptic, in fact. Even if you’re part of the 1.5% of Americans who survive, you’ll wish you hadn’t.
And ignorant would be not understanding the situation in context and seeing how dangerous the moment truly is.
Which one fits you the best?
"Lots of footage of Nazi salutes"? Like it's hard to hire some crisis actors to pose on camera?
Same people who are certain that all the blown-up tanks and ruined apartment buildings is "CGI" are lapping up not even "footage", but empty assertions about "lots of footage" being available. Jeezus!
How about some real proof of real Nazi atrocities? It's been 8 years. Where the fuck the footage of "genocide"? Where the fuck are "mass graves", "lamp shades", "gas chambers"? How the fuck Israel is quiet if Joos are being eradicated in Ukraine? Mossad doesn't know?
Patnet has collectively lost its mind and is fucking ready to buy bridges. PM me if you want one.
Strong words for someone advocating nuclear war with Russia as a policy point.
I can’t decide if this is naive, stupid, or hopelessly ignorant? Naive would be thinking we can continue provoking Russia forever without major consequences. Stupid would be thinking a nuclear war wouldn’t be that bad. It would be apocalyptic, in fact. Even if you’re part of the 1.5% of Americans who survive, you’ll wish you hadn’t.
And ignorant would be not understanding the situation in context and seeing how dangerous the moment truly is.
Which one fits you the best?
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Patrick
2022 Mar 21, 11:16am
Patrick
2022 Mar 21, 11:16am
https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-links-ukraine-thriving-neo-nazi-movement/5774657?source=patrick.net
Western media have attempted to all but deny the existence of neo-Nazis in Ukraine, alleging that Russia’s goal to de-Nazify Kiev is not possible because Ukraine’s president is Jewish. But what is to be made of an Israeli Jew openly calling himself the co-founder of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion?
Kiev’s infamous Azov Battalion, officially part of the National Guard of Ukraine, has been widely acknowledged as a neo-Nazi volunteer paramilitary force. It has also been connected with foreign white supremacist organizations. In addition to this, the far-right, neo-Nazi and white-nationalist members in its ranks have even been criticized by the likes of Human Rights Watch and the United Nations for human rights abuses.
Despite the well-documented history of racially motivated crimes and attacks on Ukraine’s LGBTQ+ community, the battalion has been indirectly and continually armed by Western powers.
In June 2015 the United States and Canada banned the support and/or training of Azov by their forces, specifically citing its neo-Nazi connections. However, the following year the U.S. lifted its ban owing to pressure from the Pentagon. In 2019, The Nation magazine published an article in which it was stated that “[p]ost-Maidan Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces.” All of which is to say that Azov can conclusively be labeled neo-Nazi. ...
Prior to Azov becoming an integrated part of the Ukrainian military, the group was funded primarily by Ukrainian oligarchs, the most well known of whom was Igor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is of Jewish heritage and is an Israeli citizen and well-known billionaire businessman. Despite his being a Jewish Israeli, he had no problem pouring money into neo-Nazi volunteer militias such as the Azov and Aidar, among other far-right groups that feature elements hostile to Jewish people.
Although the Jewish president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is often held up by mainstream Western media as proof that there is no problem with neo-Nazis in Ukraine, he himself received financial backing from the same oligarch – Igor Kolomoisky – who was financing neo-Nazis. Zelenskyy’s presidential bid in 2019, which saw him win 73% of the vote, was successful on the basis that he was running in order to combat corruption and create peace in the country but, as the leaked documents known as the Pandora Papers revealed, he himself was storing funds in offshore bank accounts. Zelenskyy’s campaign was at the time boosted and bankrolled by the Israeli-Ukrainian-Cypriot billionaire Kolomoisky – who was himself accused of stealing $5.5 billion from his own bank.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 21, 11:35am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 21, 11:35am
Patrick says
Acknowldeged by who? Same people who "acknowledge" Trump's supporters as "white supremacists"?
I've asked this question many times and all Putin's parrots keep dodging it: what evidence of Azov being Nazis exists beyond some sign which reminds somebody something? Azov has existed for 8 years already being formed as a response to Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. It did not exist before that. Where are the mass graves of Joos? Where are the lampshades? Gas chambers? Anything? Bueller? Eight fucking years and all we hear is "but look at their patch!". Eight years in the times when everyfucking body and his dog have a hi-res camera in their pocket. Where is your famous skepticism? It evaporates the minute you hear that sweet Putin's voice in your ears, LOL.
PS. And besides, how big is a battalion? 500? 1000? Is existence of 1000 people supporting "wrong" ideology a justification to attack a 40-million country, displace 10 million (and counting), kill 2000+ civilians (and counting)? Really?
Kiev’s infamous Azov Battalion, officially part of the National Guard of Ukraine, has been widely acknowledged as a neo-Nazi volunteer paramilitary force.
Acknowldeged by who? Same people who "acknowledge" Trump's supporters as "white supremacists"?
I've asked this question many times and all Putin's parrots keep dodging it: what evidence of Azov being Nazis exists beyond some sign which reminds somebody something? Azov has existed for 8 years already being formed as a response to Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. It did not exist before that. Where are the mass graves of Joos? Where are the lampshades? Gas chambers? Anything? Bueller? Eight fucking years and all we hear is "but look at their patch!". Eight years in the times when everyfucking body and his dog have a hi-res camera in their pocket. Where is your famous skepticism? It evaporates the minute you hear that sweet Putin's voice in your ears, LOL.
PS. And besides, how big is a battalion? 500? 1000? Is existence of 1000 people supporting "wrong" ideology a justification to attack a 40-million country, displace 10 million (and counting), kill 2000+ civilians (and counting)? Really?
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 21, 12:18pm
Patrick says
Patrick, I don't even know how to break it to you. Igor Kolomoisky is also a Jew.
Eric Holder says
This would be a good point to question the sources which push this neo-Nazi agenda. Yet I totally expect a different result on patnet, in the form of yet another conspiracy convolution.
he himself received financial backing from the same oligarch – Igor Kolomoisky – who was financing neo-Nazis.ROTFL.
Patrick, I don't even know how to break it to you. Igor Kolomoisky is also a Jew.
Eric Holder says
Acknowldeged by who? Same people who "acknowledge" Trump's supporters as "white supremacists"?
This would be a good point to question the sources which push this neo-Nazi agenda. Yet I totally expect a different result on patnet, in the form of yet another conspiracy convolution.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 21, 12:52pm
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 21, 12:52pm
THERE IS A NAZI BATTALION IN THE US:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party?source=patrick.net
500 is a bona fide battalion:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party?source=patrick.net
500 is a bona fide battalion:
"A U.S. Army battalion includes the battalion commander (lieutenant colonel), executive officer (major), command sergeant major (CSM), headquarters staff, and usually three to five companies, with a total of 300 to 1,000 (but typically 500 to 600) soldiers."
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stereotomy
2022 Mar 21, 1:59pm
stereotomy
2022 Mar 21, 1:59pm
Par for the course - the US went from subsidizing NAZI's and executing Patriots (Ruby Ridge, Waco), to executing Patriots (Covid "Vaccines") and supporting NAZI's (Ukraine).
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clambo
2022 Mar 21, 4:34pm
Maybe so, since neither one is going to affect me in any negative way.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 23, 12:07pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 23, 12:07pm
Be VERY careful with MEMRI.
Remember the claim that Iran wanted to "wipe Israel off the map"?
They have no such idiom in Iranian. What they were (reportedly) saying was that the Zionist government must go away, that it would collapse in time. There was lots of discussion about it at the time.
MEMRI has no problem mistranslating, and it's run by Yigal Carmen, an ex-IDF officer in the intelligence section. All intelligence agencies of the "western world" deal with disseminating propaganda. Something that has always bothered me is that the literal text of what is being spoken is never provided, which would allow an astute researcher to go through the pain of translating themselves, word by word.
Remember the claim that Iran wanted to "wipe Israel off the map"?
They have no such idiom in Iranian. What they were (reportedly) saying was that the Zionist government must go away, that it would collapse in time. There was lots of discussion about it at the time.
MEMRI has no problem mistranslating, and it's run by Yigal Carmen, an ex-IDF officer in the intelligence section. All intelligence agencies of the "western world" deal with disseminating propaganda. Something that has always bothered me is that the literal text of what is being spoken is never provided, which would allow an astute researcher to go through the pain of translating themselves, word by word.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 23, 12:12pm
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 23, 12:12pm
Remember, the Palestinian Leadership, like the UVF/IRA in the 80s and 90s, or Colombian "Right Wing" Militia and "Communist" Groups, doesn't want a solution. They like it just the way it is, so they're only partially responsible for running things, can steal lots of UN Aid, delay elections years past they're due (if ever in the case of Hamas), and grift and whinge for more $$$. ALL of them have palaces and penthouses from Paris to Dubai. Even Villas in Gaza and Ramallah with 20 rooms and 6 bathrooms. KGB Agent Aref of "Plantation" (Big Farm) aka Yassir Arafat owned properties across France and the MENA, including a multimillon dollar place in Paris; Abass is worth tens of millions, and Haniyeh of Hamas is estimated at $3 Billion.
Not repairing the water treatment plant means big money selling bottled water, despite plenty of cash annually to do so.
This is why they always say "no" without offering a counter offer and walk away from the table; it's why the Arab-Israeli negotiations without Palestinians are so important.
You'll hardly meet a Palestinian Family in the West that doesn't own multiple properties with multiple citizenships and residencies, because of this grift. Remember Omar Mateen's wife? He signed the property over to her and she actively and knowingly helped him plan attacks; her family is based in Cali and owns multiple properties worldwide. So does Linda Sarsour, both her and her husband's families own plural buildings in Brooklyn and across the US and Jordan. Often in multiple countries. Yet they claim to be refugees, and their special Grift UNWRA, which excludes them from the normal Refugee rules (residency, much less citizenship, in any country removes refugee status) that every single other group is under from the Sudan to Bangladesh.
Not repairing the water treatment plant means big money selling bottled water, despite plenty of cash annually to do so.
This is why they always say "no" without offering a counter offer and walk away from the table; it's why the Arab-Israeli negotiations without Palestinians are so important.
You'll hardly meet a Palestinian Family in the West that doesn't own multiple properties with multiple citizenships and residencies, because of this grift. Remember Omar Mateen's wife? He signed the property over to her and she actively and knowingly helped him plan attacks; her family is based in Cali and owns multiple properties worldwide. So does Linda Sarsour, both her and her husband's families own plural buildings in Brooklyn and across the US and Jordan. Often in multiple countries. Yet they claim to be refugees, and their special Grift UNWRA, which excludes them from the normal Refugee rules (residency, much less citizenship, in any country removes refugee status) that every single other group is under from the Sudan to Bangladesh.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 23, 12:41pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 23, 12:41pm
AmericanKulak says
There's no serious attempt at a solution on either side, both governments (as in all governments) are corrupt.
Every "negotiation" is never intended to be met with a solution. If either side was interested in a solution, offers would be made public AS they were being made. If the Palestinians were given a solution THEY could accept but the leadership refused it, the leadership would have their heads on silver plates.
Neither power structure wants a solution.
This is why they always say "no" without offering a counter offer and walk away from the table; it's why the Arab-Israeli negotiations without Palestinians are so important.
There's no serious attempt at a solution on either side, both governments (as in all governments) are corrupt.
Every "negotiation" is never intended to be met with a solution. If either side was interested in a solution, offers would be made public AS they were being made. If the Palestinians were given a solution THEY could accept but the leadership refused it, the leadership would have their heads on silver plates.
Neither power structure wants a solution.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 23, 3:31pm
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 23, 3:31pm
stereotomy says
Finally, somebody knowledgeable! Maybe you can explain why USA was supposedly supporting Globohomo Joos and NAZIS in Ukraine simultaneously? If Ukraine is supposedly a proxy to attack poor defenseless Mother Russia and US have installed the Globohomo Joo government there why does it supposedly simultaneously support NAZIS who famously hate everyting Globo, Homo or Joo?
So far nobody could crack this puzzle for me.
All these 3 things can't be true at the same time, so which one is false?
Par for the course - the US went from subsidizing NAZI's and executing Patriots (Ruby Ridge, Waco), to executing Patriots (Covid "Vaccines") and supporting NAZI's (Ukraine).
Finally, somebody knowledgeable! Maybe you can explain why USA was supposedly supporting Globohomo Joos and NAZIS in Ukraine simultaneously? If Ukraine is supposedly a proxy to attack poor defenseless Mother Russia and US have installed the Globohomo Joo government there why does it supposedly simultaneously support NAZIS who famously hate everyting Globo, Homo or Joo?
So far nobody could crack this puzzle for me.
All these 3 things can't be true at the same time, so which one is false?
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